"4:13 Dream" by the Cure

This is still my favorite of the singles and the one that translates best to a live setting:

https://youtu.be/A7Iicf6ATeY

Ah yeah, 'The Real Snow White' - one of my favourite tracks on the album, that. It's one of many that truly could have blossomed more if it wasn't for the awful production. I think that's the thing that irked me the most about 4:13 Dream, even moreso than the continued presence of Jason Cooper... it's that Robert Smith has been involved in making so many great sounding records, that 4:13 Dream for me was a case of "how did this happen? how did this recording/final mix end up sounding so dull, flat and lifeless?"

i like the fashion critiques! simon looks like the singer from LIT now

My favorite of the b-sides; again, I really like Jason in full-on thunder mode and when the song kicks into full on fraught paranoia in the prechorus, it rules:

https://youtu.be/F4Gq0D88PyQ

I think this is probably the most underrated song on the album. It's not my favorite but every time I play it, I am struck by how much I enjoy it and wonder why it doesn't appear as anyone's 2nd or 3rd favorite:

https://youtu.be/w0HGRkYOEEU

The thing about songs like 'It's Over' and 'Switch' is that I can't help but imagine how much they'd rule if Boris had played on 'em.

Andy Anderson is technically a better drummer than Lol but Lol came up with iconic drum parts like the ones on 'The Figurehead', 'The Hanging Garden', 'Siamese Twins' etc. Andy did however play drums on 'The Lovecats', which alone means he's made more of a contribution to the Cure canon drumming-wise than Jason has in his whole stint.

This song is a little "latter-period Cure, lol" but it still works, especially the prechorus:

https://youtu.be/cHagAp8CVo0

i like the fashion critiques! simon looks like the singer from LIT now

― kurt schwitterz, Friday, August 4, 2017 7:54 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahahaha! I'd never quite made the connection, but yeah!

I agree with RAG, this song bangs:

https://youtu.be/6IvdTyvWaGo

"Hungry Ghost" is my favourite. I thought the b-sides were quite weak but I think I like this album more than most of you.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, August 4, 2017 7:50 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think 4:13 Dream is a great collection of songs! Actually, I'd go as far as saying that stylistically it was quite refreshing coming after the more ponderous Bloodflowers and the Ross Robinson-ness of The Cure ... but the way that the songs are recorded/produced/mixed/arranged and even (in places) played does them no favours. I'm sure they didn't set out to make a lousy sounding record, but it does often feel to me that they took this great batch of songs and shat on them.

i looove "sleep when i'm dead"

'Sleep When I'm Dead' was written around the time of The Head on the Door, iirc?

I actually really like 'This. Here and Now. With You', even though I'm pretty sure that DJP hates it.

The thing that struck me most was how accessible the album is. Everything from Kiss Me to the selftitled album taken a long time for me to digest but 4:13 Dream was as easy as Boys Don't Cry.

When I heard 'Freakshow' for the first time, I thought "shit, haven't heard them do a song like this for a while!"

Also, Andy was not able to play the triplets on '100 Years' either, so he must be crap, right?

uhh

https://youtu.be/ApKZ1mOLbIY?t=2721

That is indeed Boris' first ever show with the band.

Not that he's playing the triplets, either. But, carry on.

^ Pedantically cunty post.

I heard that Jason can't even play a triplet.

I checked and that's actually Boris' 10th or so show with the Cure - but mostly pretty impressive stuff. Haven't heard the few with Vince from Psychedelic Furs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gpeVLvJ6KU

v surprised by how much i love "the reasons why"

q: why isn't "without you" on this record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHht5Ugv_7o

lotta wacky bob vocalizations but it totally sweeps me away anyway

i bought all three singles but never really listened to them before, so thanks Brad.

i have been listening to 4:13 Dream non-stop since we have been on a Cure kick on ILM. still not a fan of the production but really, really like this album. if they cut a couple of songs off it, what could have been. i would say their best since Wish.

Bee, there were four singles from this album!

'The Only One' b/w 'NY Trip'
'Freakshow' b/w 'All Kinds of Stuff'
'The Perfect Boy' b/w 'Without You'
'Sleep When I'm Dead' b/w 'Down Under'

'Without You' and 'Down Under' are fantastic.

All Kinds of Stuff rules, too

I'm not really a fan. Good b-side fodder, though.

I mean, I liked it better when they recorded it in 1986 and it was called 'A Japanese Dream.'

How have I noticed heard this before?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEdos_du2Zw

Not sure how not turned into noticed there.