OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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I mean in so far as I don't think that VVM/NT has a particularly loyalty to the idea of using local writers for media (or for that mannner anything else.)

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

And in this case it looks like this dude writes for all the Weeklies. There are links to LA and OC Weekly articles on that Myspace page.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Alex: That's what I've noticed ... he's not the only NJ/NY dude that writes for other chain papers that the Weekly has writing for them now.

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 8 May 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it's pretty horrific to think that not only have papers like the village voice, la weekly, and others in the vvm stable completely turned to shit, but they all employ the same bullshit writers.

once he puts that purple he will become an enemy (omar little), Friday, 8 May 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm not saying that they should be loyal to that idea. The problem here isn't that this guy lives in NJ. It's that the article(s) he wrote is crappy. I'm fine with getting the best writer who live wherever to write your music pieces.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Alex: but that crappitude is stock in trade for the SF Weekly. A friend of mine used to write for them ... and he said that for articles there was a common format, as he explained it, one either writes about "This thing you thought was good? It's really bad." or "This thing you thought was evil? It actually is good."

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 8 May 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I don't read the Weekly and basically I never have (I used to a little when Phil Sherburne used to write for them). I don't read the music section in the Guardian either though.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

they all employ the same bullshit writers

:-/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 May 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I give both at least cursory skims. I usually read at least one or two things in the Guardian, Kimberly Chun's column, and there's usually a show preview for someone interesting.

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 8 May 2009 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the answer to the thread's question is yes, this is the worst piece of music writing ever.

Bill Magill, Friday, 8 May 2009 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

well, there are diamonds in the rough, ned ; D

once he puts that purple he will become an enemy (omar little), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

oh come on now guys, it's bad but not that bad

mark cl, Friday, 8 May 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

The Village Vanguard. New York City. 1961.

We was sittin’ there watchin’ the stage. Waitin’ for the man they called Coltrane to come out and do his thing. It was me and my four droogs. Them bein’ Peter, Georgio and Dim; Dim being really Dim.

‘Round an hour’d passed and the place was packed straight through to the back. I’d just dropped some dollars for ‘Trane’s Giant Steps six months back. Now was the time, this was the place. The Village Vanguard. New York City. 1961.

I was only there for the first night, see, but them cats at Impulse! just made my life complete. They put out four CDs of all that sound ‘Trane put out those nights. But you know my type, man. Can’t afford to eat, let alone spend some heavy cash on music. So I only got the essential. Live at the Village Vanguard: The Master Takes is one disc, makin’ it one-fourth the cost of the box set. And you only get the best stuff.

Man, the opening beauty of “Spiritual…” It’s like a dream I had: I floated on the River Nile, smokin’ some fresh weed, relaxin’. But I ain’t ever gonna see the Nile anyhow. This track’s as close as I come, and it’s close enough. Best of the best, though, has gotta be “India.” It’s only when you listen to a perfect old jazz tune like this that you realize how much drum-n-bass is derived from this music. ‘Trane takes it to heaven and back with some style, man. Some richness, daddy. It’s a sad thing his life was cut short by them jaws o’ death.

Shit, cat. It don’t make a difference. The man produced enough good music to last me a lifetime. This Village Vanguard thing’s just another example of the genius of Coltrane.

mark cl, Friday, 8 May 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

easy target i know

mark cl, Friday, 8 May 2009 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I give both at least cursory skims. I usually read at least one or two things in the Guardian, Kimberly Chun's column, and there's usually a show preview for someone interesting.

Guardian's definitely better, I like Chun a lot. (didn't she just get laid off tho?)

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Shakey: I saw her a couple nights ago and she was talking about an article she was working on ... but I heard that rumor somewhere, too.

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 8 May 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

This is actually an excellent article, making some very valuable and very correct points.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

but Geir the Beatles are "classic rock"

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

xp Oops I just accidently Permalinked you Geir. Sorry about that.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

LMFAO

gui lovato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

The same people that have dinner parties where the hosts put Heart on the stereo have 90 shitty contempory bands they like too. Who do you think is buying all the Coldplay records?

A few points: I assume there are several millions Coldplay fans who have never had any use for Heart at all; I don't know what Coldplay and Heart have in common in the first place (one was a great hard rock band, one wasn't); I've never been to a dinner party where Heart was played in my life; and though I never thought of it before, I think it might be kind of neat if somebody did play Heart at a one (especially if they put on Bebe Le Strange or Jupiters Darling, neither of which get played on classic rock radio much either, I don't think.)

Actually, if the food and company was good, they could even play Coldplay, for all I care. Hell, it's their party. They should play whatever they want.

xhuxk, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Now I was speaking of the original article.

Classic rock is the canon is good. Of course.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

(But nothing wrong about checking out new stuff - as long as it sounds like the old stuff)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Right, I've killed myself. Now what?

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Now you get to listen to My Morning Jacket!

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong about My Morning Jacket, although Flaming Lips do roughly the same thing better :)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

you'll have to pry my jethro tull records from my cold, dead hands

Domm P))) (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Joanna Newsom is like Jethro Tull only NOW, man.

Alex in SF, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Jethro Newsom - Aquaharp

tylerw, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i really hope the author can explain how all those bomb throwing radical generation rock terrorists of the 60s spent most of their time obsessing over blues and folk records recorded in the 20s and 30s

Domm P))) (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

^^

mark cl, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

See, the problem I have with the original article is that he makes some stupid mistakes in spelling, grammar, and music knowledge.

'...who can quite frankly can screw themselves..." <---- no Editor, even a Uni newpaper twerp, should make such a horrific mistake.

'Greenday' <-----you fucking kidding me?

In terms of music knowledge, the guy who wrote this is obviously retarded.

the table is the table, Friday, 8 May 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I really hope the author can make peace with his parents ... he seems to have issues.

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^for realz. this is the first thing I thought of too. Like, does he not realize that the entire concept of generational-warfare-via-pop-culture was developed by, um, the baby boomers?

High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I was just envisioning some chick he was interested in flirting with his dad instead.

giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 8 May 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

a new challenger?

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=406425

joe, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

was unable to read that.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link

shredded moose morelike

sorry for british (country matters), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

At first, chords were enough: to simply hammer, as John Lennon did, a chord, a root, a seventh, a sixth - anything.

listen to some fucking charlie christian, arsehole.

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

hendrix as phallic, clapton as anal

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

It might be noticed that I mention only English guitarists,

Ran. Screaming.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

was going to post that hendrix-clapton line but thought it would be unfair to inflict it on anyone who hadn't already read it. An image that will haunt the rest of my days.

Stryder's on the Orme (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

"There is hardly one classic electric guitarist to have come from America. Blues, jazz, country, etc, indeed - and they have mastered the art of the Paganinistic solo in grand masters such as Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. But these are not guitarists with the right spirit, able to serve and transcend music at the same time."

No way, you did not just say that.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i like how he claims hendrix as an english guitarist just for the hell of it

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

surprised to find the guy is only 36, assumed he was some nostalgic baby-boomer.

joe, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Why is there so much music writing on the internet that's like 20 paragraph think pieces? Who is reading all of this?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

some people think the point of not having an editor is not editing themselves?

Briney Deep Coralgarden (some dude), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

this piece was in the tls though rite? which is pretty respectable (or used to be).

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 12 May 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link


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