Backstreet JellyPOLL: ILM Van Morrison Poll Discussion Thread

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beyond that "irish heartbeat" is my favorite song in the entire world. i might prefer the recording with the chieftans but i also might not!

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

'cause the world is so cold!
don't care nothing about your soul
that you share
with your own ones

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link

taking sides: og "irish heartbeat"'s formation as a gently rotating synth orb vs. chieftans recording which is crisp and embroidered with bagpipes

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

Veedon Fleece for me is like you're sitting around thinking I've got Astral Weeks. This is the only album I'm really ever gonna need how can it even get deeper than this, forget it. and then you hear about Veedon Fleece so you find a copy and you think holy fuck he just took the whole operation into outer space

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi)

Outer space with beautiful lawns that smell like honey.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

astral turf

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

holy fuck he just took the whole operation into outer space

To me, that's the long songs on Saint Dominic's Preview, particularly Almost Independence Day, where he isn't even burdened by lyrics, just a few repeated phrases. It's perfect.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 30 July 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

i always forget how wonderful this song is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvDamp4tvA4

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link

It won't help the voting but, true confessions, I always skip Beside You. Someone up thread used the term bovrilish - no idea what that means exactly but I don't like bovril nor Beside You which has always sounded too strident.

that's not my post, Sunday, 30 July 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

The opening synth burbles at the beginning of "A Sense of Wonder" -- man

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 July 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

gonna send in a ballot before i torture myself about the order too much

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Sunday, 30 July 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

'cause the world is so cold!
don't care nothing about your soul
that you share
with your own ones

otmfm

Irish Heartbeat is such an incredible album

prob should be a separate poll for best van morrison horn arrangements but this is my no. 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-ib0euAKk

Thanks for the information
Never give a sucker an even break
And with her everything light becomes heavy
And everything heavy becomes light

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

People let me tell you, the results of this poll are quite interesting thus far.

Get those ballots in. We were pretty slow there for awhile, but they're starting to come in now.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

i love both versions of "wonderful remark" so so so so much

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

also this song!!!! idek if i can fit it onto my ballot but i really want to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMP9jMJlsks

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

really enjoying my research here - I can submit a ballot in the evening West Coast time as long as it's before midnight right?

also wanna note that this is the dude who wrote GLORIA which I will certainly vote for

sleeve, Monday, 31 July 2017 00:33 (six years ago) link

I can submit a ballot in the evening West Coast time as long as it's before midnight right?

Yes.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 31 July 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link

any consideration of extending by a day?
I just got back in town but have a final 33 to pare down-would like to spend enough time to rank.
Thanks.

campreverb, Monday, 31 July 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

Yeah sure why not. Let's extend it through August 2. I'll start the rollout on Wednesday, and finish up on Thursday or Friday depending on how many ballots I get.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 31 July 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

i'd say cyprus avenue, or caravan, or into the mystic, or

Cyprus avenue gets my #1

wtev, Monday, 31 July 2017 09:43 (six years ago) link

Re: mumbling and repetitiveness of his vocals. He likes to use his voice like a jazzer might solo on a saxophone.

This

wtev, Monday, 31 July 2017 09:48 (six years ago) link

completely forgot that fun. did a cover of "queen of the slipstream." it's pretty good imo otherwise i wouldn't subject y'all to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlrmUuukVV0

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

I should submit a ballot, right?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

yes

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

just submitted mine!

jesus this guy has a lot of good songs...

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

It is touched on upthread, but one of the enduring mysteries for me is that I am completely in thrall to these songs on subjects I find almost intolerable anywhere else: I am on tour; people are phonies; I'm staring at a 14-year-old girl from a car; those other people are phonies too; Ireland is lovely.

Which is just to say I am sitting here regretting not making a song that goes on about 'merry gypsies' my number one.

woof, Monday, 31 July 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

speaking of "ireland is lovely" here's a song van dedicated to his high school in belfast. prob my favorite song on avalon sunset, can't get enough of those golden autumn days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKBao_-FJU8

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

I think I said this elsewhere but while there are plenty of good songs about California, Van's are pretty much the only ones that make me want to be in California.

JoeStork, Monday, 31 July 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

I understood Van the vocalist much better when I realized he was a saxophone

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

I am on tour; people are phonies; I'm staring at a 14-year-old girl from a car; those other people are phonies too; Ireland is lovely.
lol otm -- also "i can't believe i signed that contract"

tylerw, Monday, 31 July 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

the first couplet on his latest album might literally be the biggest load of shit ever sung haha:

"I was Mr Nice Guy too long
And I found out that was wrong"

really now

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

lmao van

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

One of my favourite scenes in "The Last Waltz" is at the big singalong at the end; Neil Young puts his arm around Van in a gesture of brotherly solidarity. Van visibly recoils/shudders and Neil puts his arm away

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

I really like this also love the moxie of calling a song "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" like fuck Pink Floyd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14VTF3EWqUo

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

i can imagine van singing "never heard of pink floyd / never got no insight from sigmund freud"

tylerw, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

just on its surface Pink Floyd's whole approach to music would be so antithetical to Van

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

or....holy shit...maybe The Band, Roger Waters and Van doing "Comfortably Numb"??????

fucking Levon singing this song is messing w/ me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpFo_E9Fq2k

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

lmao whut

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

this is the most bloated thing i've ever seen

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link

Yes. I prefer to think of Van not being aware of any music post Ray Charles, or at least Bob Dylan. Certainly not singing songs from The Wall.

I believe Van's cover of Comfortably Numb was featured prominently in a scene or two from The Sopranos.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link

though maybe him and Waters are bros cuz they are total grumpy bastards?

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 July 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

i think i'm gonna actually finish my ballot in the next few hours! didn't think i'd ever get here lol

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

Christ, Tir Na Nog is glorious. This is impossible.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 31 July 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

can someone (Brad or anyone) rank in descending order the '80s work?

PCC and Beautiful Vision sound the best to my ears.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

common one
no guru
poetic champions
irish heartbeat
beautiful vision
inarticulate speech of the heart
avalon sunset
a sense of wonder

i think that's everything

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

Common One!

Anyone read the Marcus book?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

I believe Van's cover of Comfortably Numb was featured prominently in a scene or two from The Sopranos.

It's what's on the stereo when Christopher and Tony have the wreck that causes the latter to finish off the former before the authorities arrive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU8nJE6z4DM

"It's The Departed soundtrack. It's fuckin' killer..."

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 31 July 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

god when hymns to the silence finally gets all of its bitter recriminations against the music industry out of the way and gives itself over to nostalgia and spirituality it's exquisite

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eBjVOJ0w_o

take me back
take me back
take me back
take me back

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 31 July 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link

"When the Leaves Come Falling Down" better make some ballads.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link


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