Ladies and gentleman, I give you your MVP runnerup: Adrian Beltre

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Similarly, Hank Aaron was a 5-win player in 1970, not the 8-9.5-win player of his prime, if you want to put a cherry on it.

Now we can go back to ignoring each other

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 July 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

2999

na (NA), Sunday, 30 July 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

Clem and Morbs fighting reminds me of my parent's divorce.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 30 July 2017 04:05 (six years ago) link

don't worry they'll get back together when the angels win the pennant

qualx, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

anyway yay

qualx, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

Beltre has exactly one 200 hit season (in 2004 he finished with exactly 200 hits). Without checking, I'm assuming that's the fewest 200 hit seasons for any player with 3000 hits.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 30 July 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

nope! A few have 0, or 1.

Clem and Morbs fighting reminds me of my parent's divorce.

Which of them was stuck in 1990?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 July 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

zero 200-hit seasons: Anson, Rickey H, Murray, Winfield, Yaz

One: Beltre, Biggio, Collins, Kaline, Mays, Palmeiro, Yount

Most of them better hitters than Pete Rose, of course.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link

(pulled that straight from today's NY Times column by Tyler Kepner)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link

Wow, so more than a third of the 3000 hit club had zero or one seasons with 200 hits. Am I the only one who's sort of shocked by this?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 31 July 2017 05:07 (six years ago) link

There are a lot of patient hitters there (but not too patient, too many walks = not enough hits) but not really a comp for Beltre.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 31 July 2017 05:11 (six years ago) link

i'm surprised too, i guess, but not shocked. getting to 3000 is just a function of longevity. the player with the 50th most hits last year was nick markakis, with 161. if a player had 161 hits each season of their career, it would take them about 18-19 years to reach 3000. if a player has 200 hits a year, it would take them 15 years, which is faster, but...not really that much faster. so it just seems to be a matter of staying healthy and having a long career.

Karl Malone, Monday, 31 July 2017 05:21 (six years ago) link

still boggling at the fact that nick markakis has 1,995 career hits

nomar, Monday, 31 July 2017 05:37 (six years ago) link

so many players this year chasing major milestones, really looking forward to Markakis' 2000th hit, i hope he gets it at home.

nomar, Monday, 31 July 2017 05:39 (six years ago) link

the growth of the 3000 Club in the last 40 years is just bananas

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 July 2017 07:43 (six years ago) link

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-everyone-should-love-adrian-beltre/

The "Best of Adrian" clip at the bottom is great.

NoTime: Pujols and Cabrera will get to 3,000 with only one 200-hit season each.

clemenza, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

(Altuve, on the other hand, riding the Gwynn-Boggs-Ichiro Express.)

clemenza, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:37 (six years ago) link

future HOFer jose altuve is an obvious pick but don't rule out Less Sexy Starlin

qualx, Monday, 31 July 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Bill James predictor tool has Cano with 59% chance of making it to 3000.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

I think Cano will make it. There are a lot of middle infielders like Castro who look like decent bets mid-career--they start young and pile up a lot of hits by the time they're 30--but they're just not good enough to play regularly into their late 30s. My guess is Castro's one of those guys, Elvis Andrus too. Altuve's obviously qualitatively different.

clemenza, Monday, 31 July 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

castro has no chance, he's not good enough to play for as long as he'd have to

k3vin k., Monday, 31 July 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

Robbie Alomar looked to be a guy to maybe go way over 3000 hits as he had been so dependable and then he was not anymore.

earlnash, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link

I got to give Castro a bit of props for coming out of the garbage bin to even be good again, he looked maybe washed up a couple years ago.

earlnash, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link

Robbie Alomar looked to be a guy to maybe go way over 3000 hits as he had been so dependable and then he was not anymore.

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Alomar's fall was rather sharp: 193 hits at age 33, then 157, then 133, then 45.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link

Cano's contract basically guarantees that he'll get enough PT to Biggio his way to 3000 hits.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link

538 had a 3,000-hit roundup the other day:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/who-will-join-the-3000-hit-club-after-adrian-beltre/

Trout, Machado, and Harper all 200-300 hits ahead of the average 3,000-hit guy.

Alomar's drop-off still mystifies me. I had a theory at the time that I've since discarded. Coming off his near-MVP season in 2001, he was just shy of 2,400 hits and not yet 34. I thought at the time he was headed for the Top 10, maybe even 3,500 hits.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link

(xpost)

big-gi-o

/ bij-ˈjē-ō/

transitive verb

1. to hang around unproductively for the sake of specious awards and milestones

“Martin Scorsese finally biggioed his first Academy Award for The Departed.”

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

Finally you and Morbs can agree on something. Glad I could help (the assist goes to Biggio for inspiring this feel good moment by, uh, biggioing the last three years of his career).

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2017/08/08/report-umpire-joe-west-suspended-three-games-for-bashing-adrian-beltre-publicly/

In keeping with the general feeling that umpires are a touch sensitive these days.

clemenza, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

joe west is a confrontational dick, but that is lame

i mean in the seven weeks since that happened, MLB had him ump home plate in the all-star game

mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 01:02 (six years ago) link

yeah, that seems silly. didn't west say they were on good terms, and beltre said he thought it was a joke?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link

nah fuck joe west

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

In best promotion ever, #Rangers giving away miniature on-deck circles to honor Adrian Beltre: https://t.co/9pzL8ZfRI9

— Evan Grant (@Evan_P_Grant) August 11, 2017

mookieproof, Friday, 11 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

hahaha

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 August 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

love it

k3vin k., Friday, 11 August 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

out at least four weeks ;_;

mookieproof, Friday, 1 September 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

Awful! He's having a partial season that ranks with all his other second-greatest seasons.

clemenza, Friday, 1 September 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

Adrian Beltre got to meet Beltre the Giraffe at the @FortWorthZoo today. https://t.co/Isr4ahfM88 pic.twitter.com/Bk3lwq3VaQ

— Cut4 (@Cut4) March 30, 2018

mookieproof, Saturday, 31 March 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link

Adrian Beltre Becomes the Latin American Hit King https://t.co/I4ZNwtnCUe

— FanGraphs Baseball (@fangraphs) April 5, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 5 April 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

That is just amazing. This guy has blossomed into an All-Timer.

earlnash, Thursday, 5 April 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...

I never get tired of these two guys:

http://www.mlb.com/cut4/felix-hernandez-laughed-at-adrian-beltre-after-striking-him-out/c-289319882

(Extra credit to Beltre--as the announcers point out, he knows when not to joke around.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

I hope Ade comes back for a final season. He’s been injured and his statline is a touch below recent years but still, he has been playing out of his mind the past couple weeks and his bWAR is a very nice 2.3 (in approx 2/3 of a season.)

omar little, Saturday, 22 September 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

Hope so too. Otherwise (and it makes no actual difference in his stature), the two partial seasons will end up costing him 500 HR and 100 WAR.

clemenza, Saturday, 22 September 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

In honor of Adrián Beltré retiring here’s a thread of all of his best, goofiest and most wonderful moments.

The dude was such a vehicle of baseball joy and we’ll all miss his antics.

— Cespedes Family BBQ (@CespedesBBQ) November 20, 2018

mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

not complete without:
http://i.imgur.com/vv7x8lf.jpg

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtR9eU2U8AA8ck-.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 30 November 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

@GrantBrisbee Hello Grant, long time reader here. I just wanted to share this very important video with you where Adrian Beltre was shopping at JC Penny with his family and randomly appeared in a commercial where the person had no idea who he was. https://t.co/nkmxaMNHig

— Mark Sandritter (@MarkSandritter) January 24, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link

Damn, he didn't even get a chryon

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 24 January 2019 20:45 (five years ago) link


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