brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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charlie gard has died

Odysseus, Friday, 28 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

I just walked Wilf around the block and saw a banner, and it falls to me to be the bad person who is weary of having to process emotional appeals printed in Comic Sans.

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

I have been looking for somewhere to safely express the opinion that way too much press attention is being paid to the Charlie Gard case, so here I am. I just feel like - what is the point of it all? No law or moral principal is being tested, no precedent is being set, nobody has been negligent, it's just one sad story amongst millions, so why is it first item on BBC and even The Guardian every day? What am I supposed to take from this story?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

All it lacked was Gazza showing up at Great Ormond Street with a chicken kebab.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

Which reminds me, running concurrently with this, there was the young Sunderland fan who died of cancer, that whole business was a bit weird too.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

When I was a kid I had a young friend killed by a drink driver, if only some mediocrity from the football world back then had given a fuck about his death. Like Malcolm Mcfucking Donald crying at his funeral or something :p

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

and using his chronic back-pain as a trigger for the tears!

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

Post Diana mawkishness seems hardwired now. I've gone all Melanie P now.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

You guys

wtev, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

All it lacked was Gazza showing up at Great Ormond Street with a chicken kebab.

― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:17 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

I know deems, it was a KFC gazza had

Odysseus, Saturday, 29 July 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

I know Diana, blah blah. ...but I can't help wondering if the political landscape would be more agreeable if we still had a figure like that. I can imagine her being behind refugee politics, behind immigration, openness. It's not a thought I'm extremely invested in, I just think it would be useful now.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link

No need, we've got Gary Lineker now.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:57 (six years ago) link

Of course, Diana was routinely portrayed as just some brainless Sloaney tart who should keep her mouth shut by the UK press, until she died.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link

The fact that she had the misfortune to have been wedded to the ghastly Charles and his ghastly familiy was virtually the only are where she got sympathetic press.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link

"No need, we've got Gary Lineker now."

Alls you have to do to attain righteous among the nation status is slag off Trump and not be a complete Tory, just half of one will do!

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

All the real big-game hunters slag off Trump of course, Yvette Cooper is another one (that Trump has probably never even heard of).

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:24 (six years ago) link

she is a complete Tory tho

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link

Architect of ATOS would be a fair epithet, when she is finally lined up against the wall.

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:39 (six years ago) link

Frances Ryan is a wonderful woman and a great disability campaigner, but I can't accept her defence of Yvette Cooper, that she never knew ATOS was going to be as disastrous as it has been for disabled people. It just doesn't hold water at all.

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link

Fucking boris johnson has been fucking about being a shithead in australia. We have enough of our own, can you guys take him back please?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 July 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link

Boris Johnson on a long haul flight = when you need divine intervention.

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

re: Charlie Gard (a story I have been avoiding). This piece seems good (although a bit overlong) on it and goes into a sideline on how this story has been somewhat hijacked by elements of US right.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link

Has anyone seen the ad made by Momentum? Its funny and on-point but I am not sure whether its a conversation starter among divided families.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 11:29 (six years ago) link

Charles Arthur is a great science journalist, great piece.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link

Xpost I've seen articles about how it's backfired, but never seen the ad. I figure it's just that the right see inconsistencies so that means it's gone wrong.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

re: Charlie Gard - can't wait for the parents to negotiate a six-figure deal to sell their story, citing 'legal costs' as the reason they're doing it.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

the ad's a bit 'your all hypocrits' without particularly setting out exactly what the difference is between the generations' circumstances but obviously complex historic social issues are not the easiest things to condense in snappy ads aimed at millennials (with their video machines and resultant short attention spans)

kinder, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link

I've also seen accusations of hypocrisy because McDonnell and Corbyn allegedly hire members of their families so are just as guilty of nepotism as the people in the ad.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

Corbyn's son Seb is JMcD's chief of staff.

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

I blame Hillary Benn.

nashwan, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

You could say that Corbyn and McDonnell DO see it. They can do something for their own but know they can't help anybody else except by being elected in a position to change policy.

I've had a scan of a couple of articles about it, one positive (Maya Goodfellow) and one negative (Deborah Orr).

I think the thrust of it - there is a gap between what the boomer gen expect of their children, and them refusin to see what they are facing - is pretty good. Some of the detail - do people parrot that "magic money tree" line? - didn't scan.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

I've only ever seen MMT parroted by BTL commenters on either side of the Atlantic until the Tories busted it out for the election.

kim jong deal (suzy), Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

hodges going on novara to debate antisemitisim with michael segalov? dying

||||||||, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

I hope Segalov makes him look (even more) stupid.

kim jong deal (suzy), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link

I've always thought Sheerman was a complete fucking tool. Even when we he visited my Junior + Infants school in the 70's I can remember someone whispering: What a dickhead! Some of the idiot white elephant schemes he talks up in the local paper (cable cars down Leeds Rd anyone? Hmm breath in that carcinogenic air and admire the "view" and ridiculous ideas of covering the station-front in a giant hood) while the local A+E is facing closure and cuts are generally annihilating the place, get a lot of people's backs up. And that he doesn't live in the area and is almost a complete Tory is another thing.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

So many times I have heard people cite "I'm not voting for that Sheerman twat" or similar as a reason to vote for anyone but Labour.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

shouldn't there be a Cash For Questions style press furore and Standards and Privileges Committee investigation here? Or is it just more acceptable to be a grafting bent bastard now, because they are all bang at it?

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

There was a blind item last week about a recently ex-MP that had been continuing to use his pass after the election.

Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

this poor little lamb was just looking for shelter and somewhere to keep his hands warm, perhaps?

calzino, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Liam Fox department spends over £1m on headhunters for trade negotiators and it fails to deliver https://t.co/FtIQdqQk9r

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) August 2, 2017

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

the disgraced doctor remains the stupidest man in government

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

The yougov poll on Brexit was fun. Basically retireds are good with fucking young ppl for life and the hardcore remainers want the worst to teach everybody a lesson. When is Haneke's next film coming to the cinemas?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

it was a bullshit poll, based on asking ppl to perform a thought experiment abt circumstances they don't believe will happen

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

Most polls I've seen on Brexit say they would vote the same again (or there has been no major movement that I've seen) so this poll preys on your worst assumptions. I hope you are right.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

for all i know the divide and the heartless acrimony is worse, all i'm saying is that the poll is ill-fashioned

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link

Liam Fox department spends over £1m on headhunters for trade negotiators and it fails to deliver https://t.co/FtIQdqQk9r
— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) August 2, 2017

Recruitment! I've been thinking that any civil servant who really knew about Europe would surely be tempted to duck out and get 4-10x their current salary as consultant/contractor for a few years (yes brexiteers, you have created a new market, congratulations, this will all turn out well).

I forgot we'd end up paying for the middlemen as well.

tbh £1m seems surprisingly frugal for a headless-chicken government procuring at panic stations.

woof, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

electorate negging when yr manifesto is trashed

calzino, Wednesday, 2 August 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link


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