Backstreet JellyPOLL: ILM Van Morrison Poll Discussion Thread

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ah the answer is yes

the halcyon days when the only van morrison records available digitally were a greatest hits comp and 1000000 variations of the bang records recordings and the funny piss-takes he did to get out of his bang contract

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

too unfamiliar with this discography to put together a real 30-track ballot but I'm gonna vote anyway

sleeve, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

I like Astral Weeks, Common One, and Veedon Fleece

please gimme some album/track recommendations, the longer and spacier the better

sleeve, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

doesn't get much longer/spacier than this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz7fWE47N8Y

tylerw, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link

^^ i highly recommend that whole album but that's where it gets real drifty

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

Listened to common one for the first time today. Really lovely.

wtev, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

Almost Independence Day is a masterpiece and will be way up high on my ballot. Apparently it was inspired by a phone call he got from a bandmate in Them, calling from Oregon in early July. Hence the lyric.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

i think st. dominic's preview might be my most-listened to Van album

tylerw, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

Any thoughts on what might win? Is Madam George the obvious choice? St Dominic's title track? Redwood Tree? Common One? Christ, this is hard.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

i'd say cyprus avenue, or caravan, or into the mystic, or

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

I would love for Into the Mystic to Win but knowing you doodz it'll prolly be Caravan or Wonderful Remark

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

Or Jackie Wilson Said

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

lol I checked out Caravan and was like "oh no, not this one"

hippie overexposure to Moondance runs deep

sleeve, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

The "TB Sheets" album has been a real revelation for me.

http://images.45worlds.com/f/ab/van-morrison-tb-sheets-ab.jpg

This edition of TB Sheets means a lot to me for sentimental reasons - and as a concise boil down of the Bang era stuff it really works. But it does miss off one of my faves from this period, available on other unlegit comps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u-CDd2CQEg

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link

Sorry for huge!

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

xxp yeah that's the one I am familiar with, I had no idea there was a bunch of contract breaking weirdness

sleeve, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

The contract breaking weirdness aka 'Garbage Van'

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

His Band and the Street Choir is way better than I remembered.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

The version of Into the Mystic on vol.3 of Too Late to Stop Now damn near makes me levitate.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

Hoping voters remember just how exquisite Linden Arden is ... the interplay between Van's singing and the piano is magic.

that's not my post, Friday, 28 July 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

man yall I really didn't know there were other van fans around here and generally hold my tongue

I will rep for a fair bit of 90s van. honestly I will say he's still got it. pay the devil was fuckin good. common one knocked me over when i first found it but that was back when just knowing it existed made you a head. wanna say good words here for queen of the slipstream & raglan road. those are giant numbers. along w/be thou my vision from hymns to the silence. fuck yes van morrison.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 00:28 (six years ago) link

man I never but never do these poll submission threads but you can expect an email from me in about five minutes here.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

OH MY HIGH IN THE ART OF SUFFERING ONE, TAKE A WALK WITH ME

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

man I never but never do these poll submission threads but you can expect an email from me in about five minutes here.

Somebody do a death metal poll next.

Crystal Geezer (WilliamC), Saturday, 29 July 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link

too broad

if somebody did Death or Mercyful Fate I would of course be in for those

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link

I predict my ballot will be the only one with "goin down to monte carlo" but it's so much the quintessential late van song. the band: exquisite. the pace: languid, flowing, effortless. the lyric: bitchy and clumsy. the overall effect: utterly hypnotic.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

Xxxxp Tir No Nog is bomb

JoeStork, Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link

veedon fleece, you guys

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Saturday, 29 July 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

his falsetto is so gorgeous throughout

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Saturday, 29 July 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

I'll be following this poll with great interest, but since I'm not familiar with much of his catalogue won't be voting. All the same, I'd like to stan for The Healing Game, which is the Van album I listen to the most:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIJrbwjlZA

niels, Saturday, 29 July 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

Mostly a boring 68-74 ballot from me, but the thread's sending me back to albums I've never properly listened to. I think maybe I'm ready for taking-it-easy mystic 80/90s Van.

Throwing out a a shout for Naked in the Jungle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Up9okdpcM

woof, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

My ballot will be last minute FYI

sleeve, Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

this is too difficult, I can't get a ballot together, but I'll follow the results closely

I hope Them gets some recognition beyond the hits ... there's probably too much solo Van for that to happen

Brad C., Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

my ballot was pretty boring for the most part because the high canon Van shit is so undeniable. like seriously you're not gonna put at least 3 Astral Weeks tracks on your Van Morrison ballot? seriously? fire that shit up again then, it's just timeless. I feel the same way about a LOT of the canonical van numbers, even though I ride hard for Poetic Champions & Irish Heartbeat & the Healing Game too, what an enjoyable record that is.

this thread is bringing me a lot of joy, I often feel apologetic about how much I love Van Morrison

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

yup - I was trying things like leaving off Listen to the Lion because I thought I probably didn't like it as much as I used to, but then I'd put it on and damn.

woof, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

I often feel apologetic about how much I love Van Morrison

why?!

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

I hope Them gets some recognition beyond the hits ... there's probably too much solo Van for that to happen

Late with this, as I've been kind of in and out a bit, but want to urge folks DON'T SLEEP ON THEM! "Baby Please Don't Go", "Mystic Eyes", fuckin' "G-L-O-R-I-A"!

A couple of underrated bangers

"All For Myself" (is that Jimmy Page on guitar?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBF83O-brVQ

"I Can Only Give You Everything" (interpolated by Beck for "Devil's Haircut")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH0G1o8xbt4

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

Overlook His Band and the Street Choir at your own peril, friends. I was looking for the studio version of I've Been Working and found this 9 minute live raveup that can only be described as scorching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0dpNHLLCBs

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

Real live Them on French TV in '65

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goR8Lf3YH2w

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

holy shit @ that Orphanage clip. Van running deep on the James Brown records

I often feel apologetic about how much I love Van Morrison

well...like...this is just sort of an example of why van has become as close as I get to a guilty pleasure, but...because he's devoted multiple songs in the past 20 years to how annoying it is to do press work. you know? like...most great artists maybe take a swipe at the press when they're young & drunk but they get over it. van...will never get over it

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 29 July 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

holy shit @ that Orphanage clip. Van running deep on the James Brown records

Yes! And I bet he was as equally prolific at firing band members.

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 29 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

I will definitely be giving a vote to "mystic eyes"

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 29 July 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

One of the few artists where I genuinely cannot see how he made a living as a pub singer let alone a comfortable living as a jobbing touring act let alone got rich selling albums let alone enjoys bonafide legend status.

Good luck to him but rly wtf

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 July 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

wanted to rep for this, every song on veedon fleece is amazing but this song, which is one of the more traditionally arranged songs on the record along with "bulbs," is my favorite. i love the way the verse melody keeps sinking into van's vocalization whirlpool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQnZEkrn7s

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

Veedon Fleece for me is like you're sitting around thinking I've got Astral Weeks. This is the only album I'm really ever gonna need how can it even get deeper than this, forget it. and then you hear about Veedon Fleece so you find a copy and you think holy fuck he just took the whole operation into outer space

^^^^^^^

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 July 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link

dmac, I went from wondering the same thing to understanding that he creates his own aesthetic gravity through sheer force of will. People don't think they like slurry mumbling, or repetitive nonsense, and yet. With druidic mojo Van decrees that this is his jam and you will like it, and the sheer confidence of his delivery and the fact that he keeps doing it convinces one to pay attention. It's a bit like Wile E. Coyote running off a cliff in the cartoons - he doesn't fall as long as he doesn't look down. Van doesn't look down, ever.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 30 July 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link

It's an angle, certainly.

I come not to snark in all seriousness, so it's interesting to hear a take on it that at least acknowledges that he's bovrilish

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 July 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link

Re: mumbling and repetitiveness of his vocals. He likes to use his voice like a jazzer might solo on a saxophone.

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Sunday, 30 July 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link


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