brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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I was gonna make a banal comment about Dyson's bad basicness and then I remembered he loves that shit so

Hope he dies in agony soon

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 July 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

Dying in agony is no big deal.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Thursday, 27 July 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iyq96p1npoWs/v1/-1x-1.png
Meanwhile lots of non-millionaire citizens of UK cities facing the the very real possibility of life on Universal Credit, possibly not so sanguine about the prospects of a hard brexit.

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 05:11 (six years ago) link

don't know what an appropriate thread would be for me to gently question the fucked-upness of Charlie Gard's attention-hungry parents so this'll do

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link

I've been trying to keep away from that story.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:01 (six years ago) link

i feel like they've been getting some terrible advice on publicity, most likely from the shady coalition of religious zealots who've backed them

more than anything i'm amazed and horrified that they've managed to turn public opinion against the great ormond street hospital - when you find yourself attacking a fucking sick kid's hospital maybe it's time to re-evaluate your thoughts and feelings

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:02 (six years ago) link

Good story in Private Eye this week about how lots of the Daily Mail exclusives on this story have been written (and signed) by the parents' publicity 'advisor', rather than an actual Mail journalist.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:05 (six years ago) link

i'm glad that the state now offers some protection to the autonomy of children from the whims of their - understandably - emotionally overwrought parents but i wish the process could be a bit quicker and less vulnerable to drawn out high court bullshit

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:07 (six years ago) link

the daily mail had eleven fucking pages of this story earlier in the week, btw

i guess i just don't understand what they want or expect to happen - their son has had basically no chance of ever having any quality of life, and no amount of publicity or high court wrangling is going to change that

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link

Oh, don't be so sure about the public hatred for GOSH.

I live a block away from there and the circus has been totally fucking annoying. It may yet be that my life's greatest regret is not hurling a warm bag of whippet poo at the head of Nigel Farage while he did an LBC outside broadcast from the corner of my street.

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:12 (six years ago) link

i feel the same way about the time my ex stopped me from shouting abuse at Jamie Oliver when we saw him at a service station on the M62

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link

That was probably dog latin, so your ex did the right thing.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:18 (six years ago) link

Nope

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

http://www.melaniephillips.com/cruel-ignorant-campaign/
Melanie Phillips of all people shockingly otm re Charlie Gard case, parents and whole thing really.

gyac, Friday, 28 July 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

If you (understandably) don't want to give her clicks, gist is thatparents not in right mind due to grief but being held back from reality by supporters enabling & so on.

Really is very good though, quotes from GOSH's submissions to court and everything.

gyac, Friday, 28 July 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

really the worst thing about this whole case is that i've been a) forced to read a melanie phillips piece and b) wholeheartedly agree with it

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:48 (six years ago) link

I'm never reading that gobshite
I've been avoiding the whole story - it's just too sad either way. The only thing I heard about it was (I presume?) the mum on the Today show being hounded to say that it was intervention from either Trump or the Pope that was the only thing to turn it around/give them hope. Switched that off.

kinder, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:44 (six years ago) link

The bottom line now is that the GOSH want to let the baby go gently in the hospice, and the parents want the baby home with them. Presumably with the media camped outside.

Mark G, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

Those parents are complete ghouls and its tiring/offensive the way in which criticism of them is always tempered by some "recognition" of the terrible grief they must be experiencing. I know lots of children who barely survived childbirth and who have lived for years with life-limiting conditions and some of those children died. I don't think it was because their parents failed to raise £1.2million and start a media shitstorm with pro-lifers in the streets of bloomsbury that they died. I think it definitely reflects what an abusive institution the family is and how over-sanctified it is in our culture that the motives of these attention-seekers is seemingly beyond criticism. Abuse takes many forms.

plax (ico), Friday, 28 July 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

Say what you like about Karen Matthews, she paid for her crimes and all her dishonesty and awfulness was exposed. And all she made out of it really was 20 odd portions of gratis Fish n Chips and a trolley and half of booze from ASDA.

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

pretty telling that the fuckwit right wing bloggers tried to paint this as goddam communist England controlling parents' lives when in fact this is about children having rights that override the wishes of what amounts to, as plax says, abusive parenting

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 July 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

charlie gard has died

Odysseus, Friday, 28 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

I just walked Wilf around the block and saw a banner, and it falls to me to be the bad person who is weary of having to process emotional appeals printed in Comic Sans.

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

I have been looking for somewhere to safely express the opinion that way too much press attention is being paid to the Charlie Gard case, so here I am. I just feel like - what is the point of it all? No law or moral principal is being tested, no precedent is being set, nobody has been negligent, it's just one sad story amongst millions, so why is it first item on BBC and even The Guardian every day? What am I supposed to take from this story?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

All it lacked was Gazza showing up at Great Ormond Street with a chicken kebab.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

Which reminds me, running concurrently with this, there was the young Sunderland fan who died of cancer, that whole business was a bit weird too.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

When I was a kid I had a young friend killed by a drink driver, if only some mediocrity from the football world back then had given a fuck about his death. Like Malcolm Mcfucking Donald crying at his funeral or something :p

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

and using his chronic back-pain as a trigger for the tears!

calzino, Friday, 28 July 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

Post Diana mawkishness seems hardwired now. I've gone all Melanie P now.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

You guys

wtev, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

All it lacked was Gazza showing up at Great Ormond Street with a chicken kebab.

― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 28 July 2017 21:17 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Friday, 28 July 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

I know deems, it was a KFC gazza had

Odysseus, Saturday, 29 July 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

I know Diana, blah blah. ...but I can't help wondering if the political landscape would be more agreeable if we still had a figure like that. I can imagine her being behind refugee politics, behind immigration, openness. It's not a thought I'm extremely invested in, I just think it would be useful now.

I'm make-believe. (jed_), Saturday, 29 July 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link

No need, we've got Gary Lineker now.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 06:57 (six years ago) link

Of course, Diana was routinely portrayed as just some brainless Sloaney tart who should keep her mouth shut by the UK press, until she died.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link

The fact that she had the misfortune to have been wedded to the ghastly Charles and his ghastly familiy was virtually the only are where she got sympathetic press.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link

"No need, we've got Gary Lineker now."

Alls you have to do to attain righteous among the nation status is slag off Trump and not be a complete Tory, just half of one will do!

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link

All the real big-game hunters slag off Trump of course, Yvette Cooper is another one (that Trump has probably never even heard of).

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:24 (six years ago) link

she is a complete Tory tho

put your hands on the car and get ready to die (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link

Architect of ATOS would be a fair epithet, when she is finally lined up against the wall.

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:39 (six years ago) link

Frances Ryan is a wonderful woman and a great disability campaigner, but I can't accept her defence of Yvette Cooper, that she never knew ATOS was going to be as disastrous as it has been for disabled people. It just doesn't hold water at all.

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link

Fucking boris johnson has been fucking about being a shithead in australia. We have enough of our own, can you guys take him back please?

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 July 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link

Boris Johnson on a long haul flight = when you need divine intervention.

calzino, Saturday, 29 July 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

re: Charlie Gard (a story I have been avoiding). This piece seems good (although a bit overlong) on it and goes into a sideline on how this story has been somewhat hijacked by elements of US right.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link

Has anyone seen the ad made by Momentum? Its funny and on-point but I am not sure whether its a conversation starter among divided families.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 29 July 2017 11:29 (six years ago) link

Charles Arthur is a great science journalist, great piece.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link

Xpost I've seen articles about how it's backfired, but never seen the ad. I figure it's just that the right see inconsistencies so that means it's gone wrong.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

re: Charlie Gard - can't wait for the parents to negotiate a six-figure deal to sell their story, citing 'legal costs' as the reason they're doing it.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 29 July 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

the ad's a bit 'your all hypocrits' without particularly setting out exactly what the difference is between the generations' circumstances but obviously complex historic social issues are not the easiest things to condense in snappy ads aimed at millennials (with their video machines and resultant short attention spans)

kinder, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link

I've also seen accusations of hypocrisy because McDonnell and Corbyn allegedly hire members of their families so are just as guilty of nepotism as the people in the ad.

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 29 July 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link


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