Lana Del Rey

has she ever not been cynical about hedonism, though

Simulating the heroin haze on a track called "Heroin" sounded facile to me, but I take your point. And she's never struck me as someone who isn't aware about the dangers of the sybaritic life. At any rate it's not one of the album's strongest tracks.

agree with both of you re: her awareness.

was just surprised to hear her cop to being sick of the evil shit, which seemed more direct. Overall I definitely find this album one of her more positive

"Get Free," "Change" and "In My Feelings" might make a LDR POX for me

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

My current LDR POX would be..

Ride
Radio
Video Games
Shades Of Cool
Sad Girl
Dark Paradise
Get Free
Brooklyn Baby
Terrence Loves You
Love

Freak and West Coast should be in there too.

http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/36906/1/lana-del-rey-may-release-a-25-song-album-of-leaks-faves

oh man that would be dope as hell

https://pitchfork.com/news/radiohead-sue-lana-del-rey-for-allegedly-copying-creep/

Radiohead are suing Lana Del Rey over similarities between her Lust for Life song “Get Free” and their 1992 hit “Creep.” After reports of the suit emerged earlier today, Lana confirmed the news on Twitter. “It’s true about the lawsuit,” she wrote. “Although I know my song wasn’t inspired by Creep, Radiohead feel it was and want 100% of the publishing - I offered up to 40 over the last few months but they will only accept 100.” See the tweet below. The credits for “Get Free” currently list Lana Del Rey, Rick Nowels, and Kieron Menzies as co-writers. Pitchfork has reached out to representatives for Lana, Nowels, and Menzies for further comment. Representatives for Radiohead offered no comment to Pitchfork.

Following the release of “Creep,” Radiohead were allegedly sued by the Hollies over the single’s similarities to their 1972 song “The Air That I Breathe.” After an out-of-court settlement, the Hollies’ Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood were listed as co-writers of “Creep.”

mentioned before it also sounds like the locomotion..but this is fucking lame

what pricks

hollies had the hit in '74 and hammond / hazlewood are not members of the band iirc

wtf. i dont' hear any similarity at all.

...really?

(I don't support this lawsuit at all but c'mon)

Having accidentally heard something by Radiohead yesterday I feel like sueing Thom Yorke for almost ruining my weekend.

oh wait, it's 'get free' not 'lust for life'. uh...slightly. I dunno, it's not like those chord progressions seem so iconic; doesn't seem like a my sweet lord/he's so fine situation.

You can't sue over chord progressions.

So hold on does this mean The Hollies co-wrote the Lana Del Rey song too? Or are they allowed to sue her as well, thus winning twice?
I don't think you should be allowed to sue for ripping off a verse anyway, if the hook ain't the same then it ain't the same song.

it's not about the money it's about truth in music publishing

the top line melody is very similar too, people. anyway, i am assuming Radiohead don't give a hoot and it's all inter-lawyer bollocks

Damn thing is identical in both verse AND chorus which is hella rare IMO, the first minute plus are basically Creep. Have to say i didn't spot it when the album came out.

Did Nino Rota get a credit for Old Money? I forget now..

100% of the publishing is insane. They're not that similar.

good number to start negotiating at if you're suing

It's not just the chords and the melody, but the singing embellishments too - the way she sings "my modern manifesto" at 0.53 is exactly like Yorke's "weirdo-oh-oh".

It's good, though! God knows I never need to hear Creep ever again, but I dig this version, especially when it changes direction after a minute or so.

imo the best defense against 100% would be "come on, for a quarter of the song I'm chanting Neil Young lyrics over something that sounds like the Locomotion"

*sudden knocking on courtroom door*

If the Beatles didn't sue her for "West Coast," Radiohead should just chill out.

radiohead think they're punk but they're bullshit

Enjoying all the Lana fans losing their shit on Twitter tho

has a single member of radiohead considered himself punk at any point in the last twenty years

calm down Lana fans, there are plenty of other songs on the album to get royalties for

The silver lining about this lawsuit is that maybe everybody that James Murphy has bit over the years will lawyer up and end that band

i am assuming Radiohead don't give a hoot and it's all inter-lawyer bollocks

― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, January 8, 2018 9:34 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im assuming they could have the authority to call it off tho

the songs are similar, sure, 100% is ridiculous though

It's good, though! God knows I never need to hear Creep ever again, but I dig this version, especially when it changes direction after a minute or so.

― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, January 8, 2018 10:40 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

maybe if enough people write better versions of Creep, Radiohead will never need to play it again! they'd love that

I was ready to write it off as accidental but the bit where she sings "there's no more chasing rainbows" is virtually identical, this isn't a Blurred Lines/Marvin Gaye thing. But fuck lawsuits.

@LanaDelRey: gorgeous, timeless, has music that generations of people enjoy and relate to, cares about the art, not the money@radiohead: ugly, irrelevant, forgotten fad with a dying fan base, desperate to harass REAL artists for money to finally retire & pay their medical bills pic.twitter.com/FKOANdu4vw

— bitch snacks (@slut4satan_) January 7, 2018

This is also good:

@radiohead in Tehran's streets#Iran #Woman #Creep #WindsofChange #Tehran #EverydayIran pic.twitter.com/Q40ElVvFyy

— Armin Arefi (@arminarefi) May 27, 2017

in other news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUiE_0GPqKE
i saw teens lining up 7 hours in advance to see this guy, so i'm keeping my eye on him. his other stuff kinda sounds like t rex

'Get Free' sounds way more like 'Creep' than 'Creep' sounds like 'The Air That I Breathe'.

my feelings on this matter have been complicated by recollection of that whole wire/elastica thing

'Get Free' sounds a lot like 'Creep'. I immediately noticed it on first listen and I'm pretty sure I even mentioned it in this thread.

That being said, this lawsuit is dumb and this kind of stuff really should be allowed.

That verse melody is identical and they probably knew it when they were making the track. Whatever they end up giving away on the songwriting is probably worth the trending clicks.

what I like about the Iranian Video is that it seems that they are actually playing Get Free, which I hope they are.

my feelings on this matter have been complicated by the fact that Radiohead played a concert last year at a Tel Aviv concert venue that was built at the site of the ruins of a Palestinian village.

Radiohead should repay the favor by covering LDR. I'd pay good money to hear Yorke sing "my pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola"

« That verse melody is identical and they probably knew it when they were making the track. Whatever they end up giving away on the songwriting is probably worth the trending clicks »
Otm. Listened to this due to this issue. This is blatant rip off!
I don’t see how they (LDR, her lawyers, etc) could event dream getting away with it in justice.

am i misremembering that "radiohead" also filed suit against someone else for something like this recently, but got a lot of flak for it, and then backed down and blamed it on their lawyers? maybe that was u2.

The difference is that The Hollies were "punching up" when they sued Radiohead. This is punching.. not down, but I guess laterally? Musicians gotta remember that these sorts of sue-me decisions are inherently as much a part of their art practice as "their choice of hat"

"Fuck sueing a hat!"

There's some sort of meta tangent here related to Prince covering "Creep" and then demanding the video be taken down and Radiohead demanding it stay up.

trying to work out which direction wire were punching elastica is giving me a headache. i guess they were never outright moralisers like radiohead and never pretended to be anything other than aloof assholes so it feels less ridiculous