Nine Inch Nails releases

Correction: not 'even better', but good yet quite different etc

well yeah - the questions were definitely way more interesting than your standard NIN interview fare. though I did get the sense he was trying to bait him into saying something headline-worthy.

ehh it definitely has the feeling of a narrative that explains who the interview is with but the pull quotes and summary are less interesting than Reznor's actual words in the Vulture interview. it also relies on the myths propagated by writers that the former one debunks

that was re: LBI's link

i closed the tab when the piece described la croix as "fancy seltzer"

lol

otmfm

The phenomenon of La Croix suddenly being a nationwide thing sill baffles and amazes me.

Mh, you are right.

'The Chili Peppers slot' is one for the ages though :D

it usurped clearly canadian's cultural niche in the 90s revival movement

Yeah, that was a good quote

I have actually been at festivals where the last act was indeed that band, and I have the impression that every festival in california for years was that way

also we did leave to get on the road lol

the footnotes in this Vulture interview are bananas. what percentage of people reading a long-ass interview with Trent Reznor need an explanation of who Pink Floyd is?

This is very scattered on my part but the talk in the interview re money at various points prompted some quick notes; click through for it all.

So, amid all the more obviously important idiocies of the day, something interesting I've noticed re that Reznor/Marchese interview...

— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) July 26, 2017

It's definitely interesting. He brought up private torrent sites again, which he seems to have been a member of if you connect the dots between comments. I don't think he's even said it explicitly but the pay-to-stream model, with premium physical releases (vinyl with extra art and bonus junk) seems to be his preferred way of putting music in the market. But accessibility and artist control as opposed to label control is the running theme.

There was at least one thing, although I'm not remembering what it was -- maybe it was the full set of Coil NIN remixed material -- made it way to torrent sites and it was implied he dumped it himself.

Interestingly, his touring bandmates have definitely released via bandcamp and similar platforms, and purchase stuff there regularly.

found cortini's public profile when I was searching out of curiosity -- looks like someone is a kevin drumm subscriber :)
https://bandcamp.com/alessandrocortini

I think there's been at least one other more dismissive comment of Bandcamp he made a couple of years back, but I sure do wonder about him really not wanting to grant the idea that people can be directly paid for their work. Which may be an exaggeration but I almost think nearly all of this is him wanting a middleman. At the least, he was direct about not wanting to be his own marketer.

Yeah, it's pretty clear he's still feeling burned by the Saul Williams album numbers and how many people opted in to pay

I think the elephant in the room here is that the audience willing to associate their credit card info with the purchase of an album titled The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust! is, by definition, self-limiting.

BUT THE ART

It's kinda weird, it does seem to be the moment of his life more than anything -- even more than The Fragile tours, as he talked about in the Marchese interview -- where he had to deal with the fact that just because he's popular doesn't mean he could snap his fingers and make something happen.

I'm just saying, I can imagine more than one NIN fan going "Oh Trent is involved in this Saul Williams album? Awesome, let me check it out... 'The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of WHAT NUH-UH NOPE SORRY DUDE"

Retitle it A Journey To Liberation and see what happens to the numbers; I bet they'd go up

they'd probably go up in 2017 just due to people being more used to paying for things online than they were a decade ago

I'd imagine a not-trivial number of people who downloaded it for free would probably have paid if they could've just stuck $5 into the CD drive

also Trent Reznor producing some unknown's rap album is exactly the sort of thing you'd think NiN fans would be curious about but not necessarily want to pay money for. he should try it with one of his own albums.

"Hi I'm Trent Reznor and here is my unknown rap album."

his previous album was produced by rick rubin!

but yeah, not a household name

The phenomenon of La Croix suddenly being a nationwide thing sill baffles and amazes me.

Topo Chico or go home.

home is where you keep your la croix stash

Props for trying out a different vocal style I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeJ_DzRJUI4

Nice beat, mind.

6 tracks on the new album strikes me as a little stingy.

Though only £2.99 on iTunes so I'll shut up.

oh i thought this was going to be another ep but apparently it's 30 minutes long?

this song sounds p cool and different for him while also feeling kinda related to "the perfect drug"

Musically I'd link it to "A Copy of a"

At first I thought one of the synths was a saxophone and was shocked at the new direction. It's not bad. I bought the last two EPs, and would buy this one, but a) I don't have a turntable and the presence of a totally useless audio format in my house annoys me on principle, plus the shipping is like $10 on a $20 item, and b) the NIN webstore doesn't take Paypal.

feels influenced by Blackstar? I think there's both sax + synths that sound very close to sax. reminiscent of The Perfect Drug too yeah which is interesting considering how much he's said he hates that song (don't understand why since it's one of his best)

apparently this is indeed a proper album and what the third EP from the planned trilogy turned into

At first I thought one of the synths was a saxophone and was shocked at the new direction

it's almost certainly a distorted sax? i think?

Maybe two saxes, to my ears, or a sax and trumpet. Does sound like Bowie. Also sounds very '90s. Like, 1997.

lol totally. this could've come off the Lost Highway soundtrack.

Bit of a Dead Can Dance feel to the vocals.

http://www.nin.com/tickets2018/

COLD AND BLACK AND INFINITE – NORTH AMERICA 2018
WITH SPECIAL GUESTS THE JESUS AND MARY CHAIN

TICKETS FOR COLD AND BLACK AND INFINITE NORTH AMERICA 2018 WILL GO ON SALE MAY 19 EXCLUSIVELY AT THE PHYSICAL WORLD PRESALE
*DENVER MAY 20

WHAT? WHY? PHYSICAL WORLD PRESALE?
THE PROMISE OF A WORLD MADE BETTER BY COMPUTERS AND ONLINE CONNECTIVITY HAS FAILED US IN MANY WAYS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO TICKETING. EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROCESS SUCKS AND EVERYONE LOSES EXCEPT THE RESELLER. WE’VE DECIDED TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT WILL ALSO LIKELY SUCK, BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. WE’RE HOPING MANY OF YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS, WHILE SOME MAY DO WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO AND BITCH ABOUT IT.

HERE’S HOW IT WORKS:
YOU (AN ACTUAL HUMAN BEING) SHOW UP AT THE BOX OFFICE, INTERACT WITH THE TICKET SELLER (ANOTHER ACTUAL HUMAN BEING) AND PURCHASE UP TO FOUR TICKETS THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE HANDED TO YOU ON THE SPOT. THE TICKETS WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE ONLINE OR ANYWHERE ELSE BEFORE OR DURING THAT DAY. ALL SEATS (INCLUDING THE BEST SEATS) WILL BE AVAILABLE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. YOU MAY ACTUALLY ENCOUNTER OTHER ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS WITH SIMILAR INTERESTS LIKELY WEARING BLACK CLOTHING DURING THE PROCESS AND POTENTIALLY INTERACT WITH THEM. THE EXPERIENCE HAS THE POTENTIAL* TO BE ENJOYABLE. NINE INCH NAILS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, LIVING LIFE TO THE FULLEST AND GOOD TIMES.**

ANY REMAINING TICKETS WILL BE SOLD AT A LATER DATE.

*NOT GUARANTEED
**NOT ENTIRELY TRUE

(dunno why Denver is up there, that's just one of many cities)

nin at radio city? i may actually buy a ticket tomorrow

Cold and Black and Infinite kind of a self parodying tour name.

NINE INCH NAILS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, LIVING LIFE TO THE FULLEST AND GOOD TIMES

if u say so buddy

did you just reiterate the ** joke

New EP is very good. Varied. Some real noisy punky shit, some moody instrumentals, including another track with horns called "Play the Goddamned Part." I'm amusing myself imagining that the title was just Trent's grumpy advice to the musicians in the studio.

Tragic I couldn't get tix to their London shows this weekend. Just tragic.

this is prob the best thing they've put out since year zero imo

Quite enjoying this

it's very good, super cohesive and beautifully paced