i never saw the owners!
i did enjoy perusing the large collection of terrifying-looking folding knives i found in their kitchen tho
― yes!!! its ur real Hogbards world (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
i always hear it's impossible to visit sf without a car, which puts me off.― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:14 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:14 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That is crazy talk. It would be madness to visit SF with a car. Transit is OK and Uber fills in the gaps.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link
"i always hear it's impossible to visit sf without a car, which puts me off."
yeah, this is wrong; there's no parking anyway. it's not necessarily worse than NYC but it's almost on par. although if you want to go to marin or napa or something, then yes.
― akm, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link
ah cool, i dunno if people are conflating it with other american cities - nyc is fine without a car, tho i'd say nyc is a particularly good city for walking.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
I'll check out air BnB but I'd be looking for full-place only and wasn't sure if a two night stay would be worth it
Driving on from there to Seattle, months away yet, may ilx thread if ppl feel like not arguing with me in person
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link
my sf airbnb was for three nights and we had the run of the whole three-bedroom place, with decent-sized back garden, and we never saw the owners - all for less than a dece sf hotel, just sayin'
― yes!!! its ur real Hogbards world (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
I think the car necessity thing is not for SF itself but the fact there are a lot of touristy things to do up the coast and a lot of people make it a combined trip. I've been a couple times, never needed a car.
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link
Will digest the suggestions for locale upthread where I can separate them from local rivalry postings, which I enjoyed anyways
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link
sf is a good walking city because it's quite small, you can conceivably walk from any point a to point b and the weather is weird but never unbearable. if you're with someone who doesn't like walking as much as you do, sf is not always the best walking city. the hills are no joke.
lyft/uber really changed things for sf, since it's a place where people don't want to rely on cars but the public transit system was never really capable of picking up the slack. I was just in town a month ago for the first time in years and it seemed like half the cars on the street were ride-service. guiding a group of tourist friends around the city felt so easy compared to how things were 10 years ago.
― iatee, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link
I was just in town a month ago for the first time in years and it seemed like half the cars on the street were ride-service
hate this fucking shit so much
you don't need a car for this city, the only reason I have one is cuz kids/grocery shopping
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
also tonga room is rad everyone should go there
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
yeah you don't need or want a car in SFThe only time I stayed in a hotel in SF it was a cheapy one right near Union Sq - wouldn't particularly recommend but it's a convenient location. My friend stayed right out in Sunset and it was such a pita to get anywhere she moved so don't do that.Don't stay in Emeryville if you can help it (lived there for a while). If you're downtown you can get to Mission etc really easily.
― kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
(Downtown SF I mean)
there is literally no reason to stay in the Sunset, anywhere past like 19th st is just rows of houses
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
the sunset and the richmond districts should be bombed and rebuilt, they are such a tragic use of space
― iatee, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
eh there's cool stuff in the Richmond imo I like those weird old Russian delis and shit
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
they can reopen their deli at the bottom of a 10 story building
― iatee, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
there's that iatee content I log on for
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link
Iatee yet to be proven not otm iirc
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
oh if you mean it's a waste from an infrastructure/building sort of POV yeah no question
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
I didn't actually want to kill all the people there
― iatee, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
important distinction
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
we should probably check out who's living there before we make a decision in either direction
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, July 26, 2017 9:20 AM (two hours ago)
unless you want to ... go to the beach? see the ocean? It's very pretty.
Driving and parking in SF isn't that bad, I do it on the regular. Cars are awesome!
― sarahell, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
Man this is like the ultimate SF sentiment encapsulated.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
hahahah! I think all the ubers and lyfts make the traffic worse, and it was better before -- like if you wanted to go somewhere by car, you had to think about whether it was really worth dealing with the parking and traffic. Now, that's someone else's problem, and it's double parked ubers for miles.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
^^^
I like Ocean Beach and go there all the time (was just at Land's End last weekend), but that doesn't mean I would recommend living or staying there for a visit
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
it's like staying in the suburbs, but you don't have to pay bridge toll to get into town! It's kinda pleasant.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
also the sun never shines
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
not true at all
― sarahell, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
I remember it being one of the hottest days of the year, sun completely blazing in all directions, heading down to the beach and getting off the Muni to freezing damp fog
― kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
I really miss SF though
― kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
I like the outer sunset and richmond. If i were to ever move to SF (I never will) I wouldn't mind living out there, I like the ocean, the fog, the lack of sunlight, the relative lack of crowdedness. but living in west berkeley near Oakland I'm honestly probably closer to downtown SF than if I lived out there. it takes me 25 minutes to get to work.
― akm, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
yes to what sarah said. it is like living in the suburbs! also the houses are quaint. those are some of the only places in SF that still feel like the SF of 30 years ago.
― akm, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
you except for the fact that the houses still cost 2.5 million dollars.
xp, always best to take a sweater or fleece when traveling around SF. I do think the weather here is great, though, sun or fog. You can walk for hours around the city and not feel uncomfortable. I was in NY last week and it was so hot and humid it was unbearable to be out in the sun for any significant length of time
― Dan S, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link
You can walk for hours around the city and not feel uncomfortable.
except when it's pouring pissing rain
― sarahell, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link
but it never rains in the Bay Area!They told me the day I arrived in a hurricane
― kinder, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
yes, it's 100% why I like the 6 months from mid April to mid October so much more than the other 6 months!
― Dan S, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
it is DAN
― akm, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
Fun to see in the Westin St. Francis lobby - there are hotel photos Ansel Adams took for hire for the hotel's architects in the 1930s.
― Eazy, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
that's an incredible hotel
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
Given that my sis lives in the Inner Sunset, I appreciate the clarification.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
Westin St Francis is where that Fatty Arbuckle party with the dead hooker went down. The rooms are small af unless you're $$$$.
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
Presumably he was
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
St. Francis also traditionally where GOP presidents stay when in SF (Democrats stay at the Fairmont)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link
also your police department is better at avoiding get caught having sex with underage women― sarahell, Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:18 PM (yesterday)
― sarahell, Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:18 PM (yesterday)
on the other hand ...http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/SF-Police-officer-arrested-on-child-pornography-11438413.php
― sarahell, Thursday, 27 July 2017 06:27 (six years ago) link
On my visits I've stayed at the Stanyan Park (in the Haight but not necessarily of it - oriented more toward GG Park). And, as a splurge, the Sir Francis Drake (fun bar in the sky).
― okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 July 2017 11:32 (six years ago) link