Lana Del Rey

def warming up to this but prob gonna delete the joint w sean lennon I just cant

"In My Feelings" and "Get Free" are the best tracks; "Heroin" strikes me as self-parody.

It fascinates me how Rick Nowels has co-written songs with her and Madonna and gotten different electro-pop results from each. Guess it says something about the artists' self-possession.

i get a locomotion vibe from parts of Get Free. In My Feelings is my favourite xpost

He's got writing credits on almost everything on this album and Honeymoon, iirc? xp

Ross, her enunciation is a lot crisper and some of the earlier songs I get this kind of "ooeeww" slurring on... well, I'm lacking the linguistic terms here. "Years" and "tears" sound more like "yeahwws" and "teahwws". I think "Gods & Monsters" is the one I notice it the most on. "Scared" is more "sceehhwed" (kind of a schwa sound)

Alfred otm, I think co-writers have definitely helped her with structure but I had to scroll past another "but what about her writers?" facebook comment doing the classic "she doesn't write her songs" bullshit ploy and rolled my eyes

She's been working with Nowels since Born to Die. He's one of her two- or three-member core team.

good pts mh, i can see that

listening to this on shuffle is opening it up for me a lot, to the extent that I almost like "God Bless America" and "Groupie Love" now

He's got writing credits on almost everything on this album and Honeymoon, iirc? xp

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.),

yup!

I can't believe you guys don't like Tomorrow Never Came, that's one of the earwormiest things she's ever recorded.

Never really enjoyed Sean Lennon doing his lazy-ass John impersonation

I love it. That one, When The World Was At War and Get Free are my current favourites. I like the optimistic side to this album a lot.

it might grow on me! who knows

"Get Free," "Change" and "In My Feelings" might make a LDR POX for me

Heroin does have that bit of self parody in the lyrics, but the chorus itself is very affecting, particularly the very last run through that ends the song. I love how unpolished that is, how there are intentionally like three vocal tracks, she sings slightly out of tune, nothing quite lines up (on the "I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sick of it" line). That's one of my favorite parts of the whole album.

I'm confused how Heroin is self parody? She takes a different approach in this song than her others by not embracing a hedonistic lifestyle, but saying she's growing weary of it. The lyrical themes on this album show Lana has evolved beyond her earlier persona.

has she ever not been cynical about hedonism, though

Simulating the heroin haze on a track called "Heroin" sounded facile to me, but I take your point. And she's never struck me as someone who isn't aware about the dangers of the sybaritic life. At any rate it's not one of the album's strongest tracks.

agree with both of you re: her awareness.

was just surprised to hear her cop to being sick of the evil shit, which seemed more direct. Overall I definitely find this album one of her more positive

"Get Free," "Change" and "In My Feelings" might make a LDR POX for me

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

My current LDR POX would be..

Ride
Radio
Video Games
Shades Of Cool
Sad Girl
Dark Paradise
Get Free
Brooklyn Baby
Terrence Loves You
Love

Freak and West Coast should be in there too.

http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/36906/1/lana-del-rey-may-release-a-25-song-album-of-leaks-faves

oh man that would be dope as hell

https://pitchfork.com/news/radiohead-sue-lana-del-rey-for-allegedly-copying-creep/

Radiohead are suing Lana Del Rey over similarities between her Lust for Life song “Get Free” and their 1992 hit “Creep.” After reports of the suit emerged earlier today, Lana confirmed the news on Twitter. “It’s true about the lawsuit,” she wrote. “Although I know my song wasn’t inspired by Creep, Radiohead feel it was and want 100% of the publishing - I offered up to 40 over the last few months but they will only accept 100.” See the tweet below. The credits for “Get Free” currently list Lana Del Rey, Rick Nowels, and Kieron Menzies as co-writers. Pitchfork has reached out to representatives for Lana, Nowels, and Menzies for further comment. Representatives for Radiohead offered no comment to Pitchfork.

Following the release of “Creep,” Radiohead were allegedly sued by the Hollies over the single’s similarities to their 1972 song “The Air That I Breathe.” After an out-of-court settlement, the Hollies’ Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood were listed as co-writers of “Creep.”

mentioned before it also sounds like the locomotion..but this is fucking lame

what pricks

hollies had the hit in '74 and hammond / hazlewood are not members of the band iirc

wtf. i dont' hear any similarity at all.

...really?

(I don't support this lawsuit at all but c'mon)

Having accidentally heard something by Radiohead yesterday I feel like sueing Thom Yorke for almost ruining my weekend.

oh wait, it's 'get free' not 'lust for life'. uh...slightly. I dunno, it's not like those chord progressions seem so iconic; doesn't seem like a my sweet lord/he's so fine situation.

You can't sue over chord progressions.

So hold on does this mean The Hollies co-wrote the Lana Del Rey song too? Or are they allowed to sue her as well, thus winning twice?
I don't think you should be allowed to sue for ripping off a verse anyway, if the hook ain't the same then it ain't the same song.

it's not about the money it's about truth in music publishing

the top line melody is very similar too, people. anyway, i am assuming Radiohead don't give a hoot and it's all inter-lawyer bollocks

Damn thing is identical in both verse AND chorus which is hella rare IMO, the first minute plus are basically Creep. Have to say i didn't spot it when the album came out.

Did Nino Rota get a credit for Old Money? I forget now..

100% of the publishing is insane. They're not that similar.

good number to start negotiating at if you're suing

It's not just the chords and the melody, but the singing embellishments too - the way she sings "my modern manifesto" at 0.53 is exactly like Yorke's "weirdo-oh-oh".

It's good, though! God knows I never need to hear Creep ever again, but I dig this version, especially when it changes direction after a minute or so.

imo the best defense against 100% would be "come on, for a quarter of the song I'm chanting Neil Young lyrics over something that sounds like the Locomotion"

*sudden knocking on courtroom door*

If the Beatles didn't sue her for "West Coast," Radiohead should just chill out.

radiohead think they're punk but they're bullshit

Enjoying all the Lana fans losing their shit on Twitter tho

has a single member of radiohead considered himself punk at any point in the last twenty years

calm down Lana fans, there are plenty of other songs on the album to get royalties for

The silver lining about this lawsuit is that maybe everybody that James Murphy has bit over the years will lawyer up and end that band

i am assuming Radiohead don't give a hoot and it's all inter-lawyer bollocks

― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Monday, January 8, 2018 9:34 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im assuming they could have the authority to call it off tho

the songs are similar, sure, 100% is ridiculous though

It's good, though! God knows I never need to hear Creep ever again, but I dig this version, especially when it changes direction after a minute or so.

― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, January 8, 2018 10:40 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

maybe if enough people write better versions of Creep, Radiohead will never need to play it again! they'd love that