I mean, sure, but do they need to be dead to just leave them behind? Wait what am I asking, this is GoT.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
those were the two sand snakes on the prow. they were wearing sand snake clothes. one was hanging from her own whip. one was impaled on her own spear.
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
Yeah when put like that it makes sense.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link
Having watched this episode I'm not convinced that being flayed alive is really a price worth paying for another crack at getting out of the friendzone.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 09:54 (six years ago) link
esp considering by the time he gets back Jon and Dany will be at it for sure
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 10:09 (six years ago) link
randall tarly was great in this ep i thought. he's samwell's daddy right?
― 龜, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link
Yep. And the kid is the reason he sent Sam to the wall, to get him out of the line of succession.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link
You guys Samwell's brother is named Dickon. DICKON.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
speaking of sea battles, isn't dickon ("...dickon...?") the guy with the crazy arms from black sails?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
and so he ishttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm2584392/?ref_=tt_cl_t8these are his crazy armshttp://cdn-maf0.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/media/black-sails-tom-hopper-content_1.jpg
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
I did laugh at that. I'm
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:23 (six years ago) link
Argh Zing xpost
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link
this i far and way the most avidly I've watched a show that p much blows
― Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
close, i would counter with the last few seasons of mad men
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
I think the show has entered into dumb action territory, but that's fine, it had to at some point. The sea fight scene was very impressive.
― akm, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
also unsullied sex with incredibly hot woman whose name I can't remember was cool
― akm, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
i still think that the show is good, but i agree with everyone that it's been a lot more fan-servicey with payoffs that feel less earned since they passed the books
there are still things this show does that nothing else on TV can touch, but it would be cool if they did them more than once or twice per season
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
re: sea fight, we didn't even really see any kind of naval battle! just arrrgh viking pirates boarding, mateyre: sullied unsullied, i was just thinking man, we have 420 minutes of screen time this season and this is what we're doing
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
the frame rate was all weird/messed up during the sea fight or was that just me?
― 龜, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
it's cool that they had sex and all but Grey Worm and Missandei really are an excruciatingly boring pair. I guess he's dying in the next couple of episodes though
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
maybe they were doing a bit of the post-saving private ryan/"heat of the battle" trick of editing out every other frame?
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
yeah it looked kind of sped up and jittery. I thought it was horribly shot tbh
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
She is beautiful but always has the same concerned "I'm acting!" look on her face which drives me nuts.
― ryan, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
I've been told many times I look like Reek. Never watched this show but take it that's not a great thing?
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
are you missing a penis?
― akm, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link
Yeah that's what I mean
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link
I've been told his story
― Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
at least your name isn't reek
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
it's weird people would say Reek and not Theon Greyjoy.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
Theon "Reeky McNoDick" Greyjoy
― ian, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
Dickon Tarly's brother, Dickoff
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
whenever i see a Game of Thrones piece on Gizmodo from Rob Bricken i wonder if it's a nom de plume inspired by the legit Stark boys.
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
xp - waiting for Dickon to meet up with Theon (same joke)
― sarahell, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
i thought this was up there with the worst episodes in the entire seven seasons. firstly, because it seems they're going to pause the plot, stretch out boring scenes, have interlude events etc etc. secondly, anytime anyone from dorne is on screen it is just like new adventures of hercules. thirdly, it generally felt like new adventures of hercules. fourthly, the terrible weirdly framed sea battle which felt like it had been condensed beyond all possible intelligibility, needless hot pie/wolf scene. the wastefulness of plot in this show is beyond belief - not surprising tho, they obv have to do their eight seasons to ensure everyone involved is a multi-millionaire but of any big tv series in recent memory this is the one that least merits that much airtime. for the amount of plot and the ridiculous stretching they do, it prob could have had 4/5 seasons comfortably ended everything. i enjoyed last week's ep but it would be a very familiar pattern for the first ep of a season to be good and then 7/8 shit/nothing happens episodes before a final duo that advance the plot.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
like when this show is good it's good in the way a blockbuster movie can be good, when it's bad it's just a bunch of people talking deeply involved meta rubbish.
the crossbow scene was ludicrous. like "i've hatched a really clever plan to deal with these dragons. the greatest minds have built... a fucking huge crossbow"
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
I liked hotpie/wolfpack and would not have wanted to lose it for more plot hits
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
i understand the value of some exploration of the various characters or whatever but this ep repeatedly gave me this feeling of "why am i watching this"
and like surprise surprise there's a good argument for dany not attacking king's landing. "a season and a half could die if you move this quickly my queen"
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
I was unhappy that Surviving Sand Snake had grown her hair. Felt out of character. Nice hair though it was.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link
local garda otm in pretty much every pointi've said it before but when you bring back jon you jump the shark. even grmm hasn't figured out how to fix it yet!
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
hey guys this show sucks
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link
also the fucking stupid scene with theon/yara/dorne queen. i mean i guess the bar isn't high for lesbian scenes in fantasy tv shows but they keep plumbing new depths, the script, the acting, the direction of every lesbian scene with yara is worse than a porno.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
I didn't recognize the Solid Surviving Sand Snake with long hair. I do think this episode earned some goodwill by at least killing off a few sand snakes.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link
there's only 8 eps this year so i'm thinking they put their foot on the gas soon enough--the unsullied are gonna invade casterly rock next week, that should be cool to see
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
the big action setpieces are not what made this show good when it was good
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link
agreed, and a lot of the best character-driven scenes, especially in the first season, were not directly taken from the books.
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
so i'm not sure what exactly has changed, but it does feel different
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link
battle of the bastards set piece was p good.. especially the long shot of jon on the front lines but on second viewing I just couldnt let go how unbelievably stupid jon is to let it all happen (by getting duped by ramsey just like he was warned about) in the first place.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
i think it's been established that jon is super brave, but very dumb
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
he knows nothing, iirc
I think the books sorta sold the death of Jon Snow because it has thematic resonance. So many characters go through a kind of personality death in that stretch - a lot of their POV chapters begin having other names, ie Theon becomes Reek, Arya becomes Mercy, Sansa becomes Alayne - so it would make sense that Jon dies literally. Also because it's the only way he can get out of his vows. It died when it became a cliffhanger for six years and counting.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link