brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

ht to bizarro's Soylent Green processing plants

finally, validation

Eh, i'm sure it'll all be fine in the long term.

We have a new paper out: why Britain should allow chlorine-washed chicken to get a quick trade deal with the US https://t.co/zoj0E8ope2

— Ben Southwood (@bswud) July 24, 2017

Surely accepting imports from the US of agricultural products the EU doesn't like means the UK can't export those products to the EU.

tbf if we just agree to whatever demands other countries make we should be able to get trade deals super-quick

"Adults would need to eat 5% of their bodyweight in chlorinated chicken each day to be at risk of ill health from poultry alone."

Love how this is supposed to be reassuring.

I'd still rather eat chlorinated chicken than listen to those dog-shit podcasts that everyone raves about on here.

C2H4O3 traphouse

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/07/jeremy-corbyn-wholesale-eu-immigration-has-destroyed-conditions-british

So are they making him look like a reasonable concerner or is he being a reasonable concerner? As ususal Cardamon wd like ILX help in parsing news story

i think he believes what he's saying, from an economic point of view. i think his solutions/response are at best naive if they amount to trying to create an oasis of state-regulated economics free from the ocean of ultra-liberal free trade that's still running the world beyond the EU

I think he's talking about the literal 'wholesale importation of workers' (in the sense of going to a town in Poland, recruiting 40 people and sending them all to work at the same construction site or factory in the UK, without advertising the work here as well) but the language echoes the standard, less literal, idea of British workers being deliberately replaced across all sectors in a very unhelpful way.

There's a way to frame that, based on a sense of solidarity with exploited labour on both sides, that would be preferable.

Yes, what ShariVari said. Plays really well in Leave-ish areas where there are lots of 'fulfillment centres' and the like.

Why do Sensible Remainer types think John McDonnell is so 'dangerous'? I'm mystified.

he wants full communism in the uk by mid-2018 iirc

Maybe him helping those dangerous disabled protesters into the lobby at Parliament last week was the last straw for some people.

these disabled Trot extremists just undermine the cause of keeping things more or less the same as they are now

Plus MPs were trying to get to the Commons bars and these whingers in wheelchairs were holding them up.

Tbf on them, in the name of egalitarianism and consistency they treat disabled MP's like shit as well.

thread on the specifics of the Posted Worker Directive, which JC seems to be have soecifically been talking about*

Short thread on Posted Workers - I only happen to know about this because the pub I used to drink in is now a hostel for people who are...

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) July 24, 2017

*which is not to say that he didn't express himself clumsily**, allowing his point to be mistaken and mis-relayed by those journalist unaware of said directive, or aware but hostile
**by accident or design :|

Jesus, working away in Coventry used to make want to top myself. But these poor bastards getting trafficked across for minimum wage is a crime.

across Europe*

Yes so my TL has totally blown-up over JC's remarks and its pretty much been used to attack him from the hardcore Remain side but also from the far-left, as a pattern. See this:

<Thread>
Corbyn's anti-immigration turn has been tested out for almost a year. This was entirely predictable & no doubt emboldened by #GE17 pic.twitter.com/eiXz4Qx83e

— A revolting migrant (@KojoRTE) July 24, 2017

Thing is, the way he has consistently voted - his actions - mean it would be quite a turn to take in this alignment with UKIP. It is a dangerous line he is walking on and there might not be a good end to this story.

Pukkah Punjabi‏ @PukkahPunjabi 43s43 seconds ago

How long till Liam Fox feeds a chlorine-soaked chicken to his child for the cameras?

is there a worse politician in the uk than chris grayling?

Never forgiven Grayling for banning books in prison (was always planning to catch up on my reading when I got sent down).

xxp a useful Fox tool, the Liam Foxinator: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/liam-foxinator/neighkpnbclgljfgdmijhabhgifdhabn

hah amazing it works on ILX too!

'Well, there we are.' pic.twitter.com/gfpgL8fC8z

— Kevin (@rascalblog) July 25, 2017

*phew* was worried there for a second

No deal? No problem!

Brexiteer James Dyson rejects notion a Brexit deal is be all and end all insisting WTO tariffs would be "no big deal". pic.twitter.com/lDom89rW4S

— LEAVE.EU 🇬🇧 (@LeaveEUOfficial) July 27, 2017

i guess it wasn't a big deal for him to axe 800 UK workers' jobs and move all Dyson manufacturing to Malaysia either.

alarming lean on that balloon, i'd be fucking screaming

I was gonna make a banal comment about Dyson's bad basicness and then I remembered he loves that shit so

Hope he dies in agony soon

Dying in agony is no big deal.

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iyq96p1npoWs/v1/-1x-1.png
Meanwhile lots of non-millionaire citizens of UK cities facing the the very real possibility of life on Universal Credit, possibly not so sanguine about the prospects of a hard brexit.

don't know what an appropriate thread would be for me to gently question the fucked-upness of Charlie Gard's attention-hungry parents so this'll do

I've been trying to keep away from that story.

i feel like they've been getting some terrible advice on publicity, most likely from the shady coalition of religious zealots who've backed them

more than anything i'm amazed and horrified that they've managed to turn public opinion against the great ormond street hospital - when you find yourself attacking a fucking sick kid's hospital maybe it's time to re-evaluate your thoughts and feelings

Good story in Private Eye this week about how lots of the Daily Mail exclusives on this story have been written (and signed) by the parents' publicity 'advisor', rather than an actual Mail journalist.

i'm glad that the state now offers some protection to the autonomy of children from the whims of their - understandably - emotionally overwrought parents but i wish the process could be a bit quicker and less vulnerable to drawn out high court bullshit

the daily mail had eleven fucking pages of this story earlier in the week, btw

i guess i just don't understand what they want or expect to happen - their son has had basically no chance of ever having any quality of life, and no amount of publicity or high court wrangling is going to change that

Oh, don't be so sure about the public hatred for GOSH.

I live a block away from there and the circus has been totally fucking annoying. It may yet be that my life's greatest regret is not hurling a warm bag of whippet poo at the head of Nigel Farage while he did an LBC outside broadcast from the corner of my street.

i feel the same way about the time my ex stopped me from shouting abuse at Jamie Oliver when we saw him at a service station on the M62

That was probably dog latin, so your ex did the right thing.

Nope

http://www.melaniephillips.com/cruel-ignorant-campaign/
Melanie Phillips of all people shockingly otm re Charlie Gard case, parents and whole thing really.

If you (understandably) don't want to give her clicks, gist is thatparents not in right mind due to grief but being held back from reality by supporters enabling & so on.

Really is very good though, quotes from GOSH's submissions to court and everything.

really the worst thing about this whole case is that i've been a) forced to read a melanie phillips piece and b) wholeheartedly agree with it

I'm never reading that gobshite
I've been avoiding the whole story - it's just too sad either way. The only thing I heard about it was (I presume?) the mum on the Today show being hounded to say that it was intervention from either Trump or the Pope that was the only thing to turn it around/give them hope. Switched that off.

The bottom line now is that the GOSH want to let the baby go gently in the hospice, and the parents want the baby home with them. Presumably with the media camped outside.

Those parents are complete ghouls and its tiring/offensive the way in which criticism of them is always tempered by some "recognition" of the terrible grief they must be experiencing. I know lots of children who barely survived childbirth and who have lived for years with life-limiting conditions and some of those children died. I don't think it was because their parents failed to raise £1.2million and start a media shitstorm with pro-lifers in the streets of bloomsbury that they died. I think it definitely reflects what an abusive institution the family is and how over-sanctified it is in our culture that the motives of these attention-seekers is seemingly beyond criticism. Abuse takes many forms.

Say what you like about Karen Matthews, she paid for her crimes and all her dishonesty and awfulness was exposed. And all she made out of it really was 20 odd portions of gratis Fish n Chips and a trolley and half of booze from ASDA.

pretty telling that the fuckwit right wing bloggers tried to paint this as goddam communist England controlling parents' lives when in fact this is about children having rights that override the wishes of what amounts to, as plax says, abusive parenting