it's the vocal harmonies as much as the music. i don't think i'm insane, i can't actually unhear it now
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Sunday, 23 July 2017 05:58 (six years ago) link
hex double vinyl remaster?
https://boomkat.com/products/hex-2fe2e77f-2575-4820-88f4-b763cf63e88d
― koogs, Sunday, 17 September 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
Cd's supposed to be remastered too and finally got the mix it should have done if the band weren't falling apart at the time or something. So have wondered if it sounds much different to the original release which i think I still have.
Also wondering if Sutton might remaster the Che era stuff and recompile it.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 17 September 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
that would be nice. I'll be buying this, more to support the band and Sutton and show interest than anything else; I do wish it wasn't a double 45 release, I hate those. But still.
― akm, Sunday, 17 September 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
They have a Bandcamp page if you want to go direct. I'm assuming the FLAC is 24bit.
Hard to tell how different the new master is but the previews sound nice enough.
― Noel Emits, Sunday, 17 September 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
XXP - The album is remixed??
― MaresNest, Sunday, 17 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
Has anyone established whether it actually sounds any different/better? (It always sounded close to perfect to me).
― djh, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
From one faintly distracted listen last night, not A-B tested (though I did listen to the original, via a different method, the day before), I feel like some of the guitar is slightly more prominent, and some of the background/ambient sounds. Specifically Graham's spooky, scratchy, mood/rhythm guitar bits (not the sparkly, beatific, weary lead melodies). The whole effect of which is to feel a little less smooth. And closer, ever so slightly, to Dustsucker.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 05:29 (six years ago) link
That's funny because the impression I had from the clips on BK was that the overall 'texture' was a bit smoother (than the origin CD.) Like, slightly more controlled compression, more bass and a more 'open' midrange. Which certainly might make for a better listen, if not dramatically so. A tasteful modern mastering job in other words.
Low bitrate preview clips are of course useless for evaluating this kind of thing, but Sutton says it's better and I'll give him the benefit if the doubt on that.
The original has always sounded pretty good but also for some reason I've never wanted to play it that much and I am intrigued by the prospect of a refreshed version.
It's not been remixed AFAIK.
I make no apologies for the hi-fi mag / Hoffman forums tone of some of the above. My embarrasment should suffice. ;-)
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link
Sleevenotes don't mention remixing, just remastering.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link
More open midrange would explain the increased prominence of Graham's spooky scratch guitar, actually.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link
Feel sure that this must have been posted somewhere but just in case:
http://thequietus.com/articles/15990-bark-psychosis-hex-graham-sutton-interview
― djh, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
I thought i read something from Sutton somewhere about it finally getting the mix it deserved, or would have got if he wasn't feeling the effect of teh band falling apart at the time of release. Can't think where out of several magazines though.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link
It's a fine sounding record anyway imho, remaster or otherwise
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
Codename: Dustsucker reissue on the way:
https://barkpsychosis.bandcamp.com/album/codename-dustsucker
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link
things i've never heard til today: bark psychosis (heard of them round here over 16 years but i'm either first or last it seems).i been playing through fire records stuff thanks to learning about and playing lots of virginia wing.
enjoying the hell out of codename dustsucker. i guess just in time for reissue! still not heard hex yet tho. ~anticipation~
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 8 March 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link
I'm jealous! They are one of the best bands ever, ever, ever...
― MaresNest, Thursday, 8 March 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
Che material needs a new one disc comprehensive home.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 8 March 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link
the two cheree eps were collected on one cd. it's over there (points 5ft to his left). discogs doesn't list anything else.
https://www.discogs.com/Bark-Psychosis-Nothing-Feels-I-Know/release/690188
― koogs, Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
ah, there was a track on the flexi
B1 –Bark Psychosis Clawhammer
― koogs, Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
Never much cared for Codename: Dustsucker. Hex and Independency are mostly classic, though.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
dustsucker was the first one i heard (courtesy of a nick southall review, i think!), and i still love it and connect to it a bit more than their earlier albums (which i also like)
― and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link
This is a rather random little essay but has a few tidbits about early BP.
https://christopherothen.wordpress.com/2017/12/01/the-bark-psychosis-stanley-kubrick-connection/
― MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09xsVXSuUk
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link
JUst reading that bark psychosis/kubrick thing and the writer's wrong, they didn't go to Bancrofts which was the other local public school in the area. they went to Forest School. Certainly from the age of about 11 to when they left school.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
Piece in stereogum on hex’s 25th birthday:https://www.stereogum.com/2031861/bark-psychosis-hex-turns-25/franchises/sounding-board/
― goats eat grandma (NickB), Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link
i never understood the fuss about hex. nothing special really, nice to listen to but quite boring. codename dustsucker on the other hand totally knocked me out. they reached another level on that album.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link
BUYER BEWARE: RSD issue of Bark Psychosis “Independency” is unapproved and made despite being asked not to.No approval of tracklisting.No approval of artwork.No approval of mastering.No approval of pressings.Can't vouch for veracity of masters used.You get the picture.— Graham • Sutton (@GPSutton) March 1, 2019
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 March 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link
Did anyone pick this up despite it not being legit? I saw a copy yesterday that had somehow not been purchased on RSD, but given Graham's tweet above and the $40 price tag, I ultimately decided to pass it up. I hope this wasn't a mistake. Hopefully there will be a proper reissue at some point?
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
I did. Listened to it last night and it actually sounds pretty great!!
Guessing, despite Graham’s comments, that they must’ve had some sort of decent masters to work with.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link
Picked it up but not listened to it yet. Also sent me off to finally order the “Blue” and “A Street Scene” CD singles which have now arrived.
― michaellambert, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link
I was so conflicted about this one. As well as your comment about the quality of the sound Alan, a few people on Discogs have said it sounds excellent. As soon as it was announced it was at the top of my list, but Graham's comments stopped me from getting it. We have one copy left at work and it's calling my name.
― kitchen person, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:03 (five years ago) link
I asked Graham if he’d ever remaster Independency and he suggested there were significant legal issues with doing so, iirc. No idea what.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 05:59 (five years ago) link
The legal issue will be Gerald Palmer’s ownership of the masters.
― michaellambert, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 11:34 (five years ago) link
I ended up picking up this reissue and have to say, it sounds really great. Just as good as the recent Hex and Codename vinyl reissues.
― kitchen person, Saturday, 20 April 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
So Independency, Game Over and Replay have now hit streaming services? Really didn't expect this at all.
― kommafeil, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
nice!
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link
Files were upped on Boomkat a couple of months ago but Graham asked them to take them down and they complied almost immediately, so I guess Third Stone were responsible.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 19 April 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link
well, i'm happy to hear independency again.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
Is there any plans to reissue the non-album stuff?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
Struggled to decide which thread to flag this on ...
https://acerecords.co.uk/in-the-light-of-time
Great track listing.
― djh, Thursday, 10 August 2023 20:33 (eight months ago) link
This looks great but I feel picky about a couple of the inclusions on here.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 10 August 2023 23:07 (eight months ago) link
Hate to nit pick as all these tracks are great but no Butterfly Child or Papa Sprain?
― Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Thursday, 10 August 2023 23:11 (eight months ago) link
Appliance are not great imho, or relevant, ESoJ too.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 10 August 2023 23:14 (eight months ago) link
Yes, surprising that Butterfly Child weren't on there.
I felt strangely enthused about this last night - just glad to see those bands being documented together - without ever having a need to buy the album (as I'd have every track on there that I'd want).
Made this a few years ago (probably with wine). Surprised I omitted Piano Magic and Hood and not sure Montgolfier Brothers and Bitter Springs quite fit the timeline:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0WNCUK2moLElB1CeOkMxVm
― djh, Friday, 11 August 2023 16:53 (eight months ago) link
Yeah, would agree with this (while simultaneously being very irritated that Butterfly Child/Joe is not on there).
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 August 2023 17:07 (eight months ago) link
Surprised that O'Rang are not on that comp as well, or Long Fin Killie for that matter. Would have been nice if it went all in on the mid-90's era post-rock stuff.
― henry s, Friday, 11 August 2023 17:10 (eight months ago) link
Then again, licensing etc. Probably good (and mundane) reasons why the obvious artists aren't repped. (See also: MBV/When You're Awake You're Still in a Dream.)
― henry s, Friday, 11 August 2023 17:12 (eight months ago) link
x-posts. Butterfly Child seems an omission and there might be a practical reason for it (or the compiler might just not have liked). But, regardless, it's a better version of those years than any other compilation trying to recall the UK nineties, I'd reckon.
― djh, Friday, 11 August 2023 19:58 (eight months ago) link
Casts a wider net and obviously lacks some of the key UK bands but this is still the benchmark comp of the first wave postrock era imo:
https://www.discogs.com/release/178563-Various-Monsters-Robots-And-Bug-Men-A-Users-Guide-To-The-Rock-Hinterland
― NickB, Friday, 11 August 2023 20:19 (eight months ago) link