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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/21/former-doctor-peter-davison-says-female-choice-role-means-loss/

former Doctor Who actor has hit out at the BBC’s decision to cast Jodie Whittaker in the role, saying that the decision meant there is “a loss of a role model for boys”

though the actual direct quotes seem a bit more measured than "hit out" might suggest, so possibly the Telegraph is distorting things a little in the pursuit of clicks.

Davison being massacred on twitter rn, he's even being zinged by Ed Miliband, the indignity

In which Dr Who travels back in time to meet the views of the 1950s. Jodie Whittaker is a great model for my two boys thanks. https://t.co/TOCXP92JoU

— Ed Miliband (@Ed_Miliband) July 21, 2017

soref, Friday, 21 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

:(

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Friday, 21 July 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link

dammit Peter

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 21 July 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

you had to figure that w/ however many of those dudes that are kicking around, one was bound to be a bit of a prick about it

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

Did it have to be the one who played my favorite Doctor, though?

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

PD has form for saying this sort of thing, which is especially weird given his family connections. But he's a 74 year old man! Of course he's a bit of a prick. Being zinged by real-life Innocent Smoothie label Ed Miliband should be punishment enough, let's forget it.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

he's only 66!

soref, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link

Ha yeah it's Colin Baker who's 74. Fine! He's more of a prick then.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 21 July 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

If you're an old prick, you're still a prick. It may not be surprising, but it's still disappointing.

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Friday, 21 July 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

Ha yeah it's Colin Baker who's 74. Fine! He's more of a prick then.

but he supports whittaker's appointment, so that doesn't work either. pricks are just pricks.

blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 July 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

Trailer for the Christmas special is out because every sf/f thing is getting a trailer this Comic-con weekend.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 23 July 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

I am against this ageist prick-judice from two days ago

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:22 (six years ago) link

ahhh, the colin baker/peter davison feud is one of my favorite things of 2017. here's colin throwing shade on his predecessor for being "eye candy" at sdcc:

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/news/a833641/colin-baker-doctor-who-fans-not-kind-peter-capaldi/

colin's comments are even funnier if you hit the page up button.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Monday, 24 July 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

xmas trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCkDXegqjR0

nashwan, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link

glad that bill is back. I'm going to assume she sticks around now

akm, Monday, 24 July 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

Nope

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link

does she not? is that confirmed? or are you hoping she doesn't?

akm, Monday, 24 July 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link

Mackie has said she's not coming back

El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

you're right, just saw that. that's really too bad, she was a great companion.

akm, Monday, 24 July 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link

great actor, underwritten character

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 24 July 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

Well just hope we see more of her elsewhere then. But shame she didn't get used more as a character.
How different it would have been to have her for the series we got stuck with Clara for.

Stevolende, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

Clara's last season was great though.

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

dammit Peter

― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Saturday, July 22, 2017 5:53 AM (four days ago)

you had to figure that w/ however many of those dudes that are kicking around, one was bound to be a bit of a prick about it

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:03 AM (four days ago)

PD has form for saying this sort of thing, which is especially weird given his family connections. But he's a 74 year old man! Of course he's a bit of a prick.

― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:39 AM (four days ago)

Ha yeah it's Colin Baker who's 74. Fine! He's more of a prick then.

― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, July 22, 2017 7:05 AM (four days ago)

If you're an old prick, you're still a prick. It may not be surprising, but it's still disappointing.

― Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Saturday, July 22, 2017 7:20 AM (four days ago)

pricks are just pricks.

― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:12 AM (four days ago)

jesus christ you guys

"I think it’s a fantastic opportunity for her and I think that it will be hard for some fans to adjust to it. As I said before, it’s difficult to adjust to any new Doctor, but I think the important thing is that those are uncertain fellows, those who are uncertain should be encouraged to watch it with an open mind. ... I don’t know, I feel... I think the time for discussion about that is past. They’ve made the announcement. Jodie Whittaker is the next Doctor and that’s great!

[question about whether he has any doubts about female casting]

I feel.. if I feel any doubts about it, it’s the loss of a role model for boys, who I think Doctor Who is vitally important for. So I feel a bit sad about that, but I understand the argument that you’ve got to open it up, so that’s absolutely fair enough. So she has my best wishes and full confidence. I’m sure she’ll do a wonderful job.

[question]

As a viewer, I kind of like the idea of the Doctor as a boy, but then maybe I’m an old fashioned dinosaur. Who knows? But I think that’s irrelevant now. The time for discussion is over. We have a new Doctor. And let’s give her our full support.

[question]

I would encourage them to watch. I think there’s too much... you know on the internet... there’s too much bile coming from both sides. And too many people are being horribly sexist about it, and too many people are saying, ‘Well, we don’t care about you. You’re old fashioned. Go away and watch something else.’ I think fans who are doubtful, who are uncertain should be encouraged and welcomed. And just approach it with an open mind.

[question]

Oh yeah, of course. I mean, she’s a terrific actress. And you can absolutely understand it. Look, someone rings you up... I know this feeling... someone rings you up one night. You’re sitting at home and they say ‘how would you feel about being the next Doctor Who?’ It’s a fantastic opportunity, so of course, she grabs it with both hands. I’m sure she’ll do a wonderful job!"

burn this outrageous sexist prick at the stake

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 02:27 (six years ago) link

by "pricks are just pricks" i meant being old doesn't make someone a prick, as per our full and actual exchange which was:

Ha yeah it's Colin Baker who's 74. Fine! He's more of a prick then.

― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 22 July 2017 07:05 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If you're an old prick, you're still a prick. It may not be surprising, but it's still disappointing.

― Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Saturday, 22 July 2017 07:20 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but he supports whittaker's appointment, so that doesn't work either. pricks are just pricks.

― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 22 July 2017 08:12 (four days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


you're right though, we shouldn't deliberately quote people out of context just to make a point about how terrible they are

blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link

what if we have independently established that they are terrible and just want to stick it to them

j., Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:11 (six years ago) link

you're right though, ... people ... how terrible they are
― blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:42 PM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

U r a monster

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

ah but AA it is YOU are are removing your own pricknaming from the context of the threadprickening

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link

thou hypocrite, first cast out the prick from thine own eye, that you shall see clearly to cast the choad out from thy brother's

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link

The Choad In God's Eye

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link

ah but AA it is YOU are are removing your own pricknaming from the context of the threadprickening

― Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:46 (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right, i neglected to include all those posts in which i called peter davison a prick oh wait i didn't do that even once

blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link

Episode 1

The Choad In God's Eye

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link

Part 2:

The Prick Who Never Was

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:51 (six years ago) link

Part 3:

The Ura Monster

blink truther (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link

Conclusion: The NOAIM Knot

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:56 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I just listened to a couple interviews with JW -- what's her accent?

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Thursday, 10 August 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

she'ws working class northern. So yorkshire isn't it?
Eccleston seemed to like her because of where she came from

Stevolende, Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

I'm going to go with "marvelous"

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

Skelmersdale/Dewsbury - very working-class area.

She is great and I've loved her since Venus.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 10 August 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile, I'm still crushing madly on Michelle Gomez:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-aqm_N-SrE

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Thursday, 10 August 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Brace yoself

New series. New Doctor. New look! #DoctorWho pic.twitter.com/0zIew8QiuS

— Doctor Who Official (@bbcdoctorwho) November 9, 2017

LOL at no-one reviving this thread re companions announcement a few weeks back. Poor old Bradley.

nashwan, Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

We need a new thread because: new show runner

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

mork and mindy vibes from that sweater / braces combo

drinkmaster sealcup at yr service (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

I need an opinion from someone with a better understanding of fashion and style than me (which is probably 95% of the world) but it seems to me that the coat isn't very well-matched with the rest of the outfit?

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link

Although I like that they've resisted the urge to make the first female doctor more "dignified"

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

Definitely female Fifth Doctor.

chap, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link

Like the outfit, like the casting, like Bradley Walsh. The only worrying thing is that Chibnall is one of the most vanilla Doctor Who writers post-2005.

bamboohouses, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

Oh man I am never going to not be able to think of Mork In A Mac now, it's so true

Brakhage, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

That, or that she's ready at all times to take some preschoolers out on a field trip

Before this gets misinterpreted, I mean this as a compliment, this is great stuff and a nice 180 from Capaldi. Very Bakeresque

Brakhage, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

If you'd like to scrub the Mork association from your brain:

Who wore it better pic.twitter.com/s0Q1sC2WQV

— Al Kennedy (@housetoastonish) November 9, 2017

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

also: WHOCHURCH: The Chris Chibnall era

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link


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