Backstreet JellyPOLL: ILM Van Morrison Poll Discussion Thread

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I'll just set up a few sock accounts and "want a danish" is going to run the table.

JoeStork, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

Also it's been ages since I've heard the 80's version but my recollection is that the Philosopher's Stone "Wonderful Remark" wipes the floor with the rerecording.

JoeStork, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

I can see by the look on your face.....thats you've got ring worm

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

It's a very common disease.

JoeStork, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

if anyone needs a guide to the '80s and early '90s van records i wrote one a few years ago http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/astral-years-a-seekers-guide-to-van-morrison-in-the-80-1700003646🕸

Excellent piece brad

wtev, Friday, 21 July 2017 05:57 (six years ago) link

Thanks, that's a fantastic blog. Van's 80s were better than he gets credit for. How about the 90s? The Healing Game is good, but I haven't heard much else.

I'll have to dig out the recording of his Glastonbury set in 86 which I saw. Some great performances: no guru, full force gale, iirc summertime in England

wtev, Friday, 21 July 2017 06:01 (six years ago) link

"Have I Told You Lately" is lazy writing but I LOVE "Why Must I Always Explain."

leave your emu at the door (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 21 July 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTN06FiglEE

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 21 July 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

sorry i thought the thread needed more high kicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZLTnRnHs8

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 21 July 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

Fully intend to vote in this - I'm a fairly casual fan but I'm slowly going through Brad's '80s picks and the stuff mentioned here, already discovered some great songs (some of which are not at all what I'd expect from any era of Van Morrison).

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 21 July 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

Found the 87 Glastonbury recording. Awesome.

wtev, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

Lots of great live Van up on YouTube. Here are a few full concerts.

Montreaux 1980
Winterland 1974
Pacific High Studio 1971
Ulster Hall with the Chieftains 1988

that's not my post, Friday, 21 July 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

Hope everyone had a great weekend listening to plenty of Van.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 24 July 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

A couple of 60s deep cuts to consider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRH8M-VyFHs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNaMbru1dQ0

that's not my post, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link

So how about this one off No Guru? Love the stripped down version he did for the One Irish Rover doc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtqB6JSiHNg

that's not my post, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:53 (six years ago) link

i'm currently trying to figure out which live version of caravan i should vote number one

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

The Bottom Line one, of course. He says "radio" as "rajjo" and it's like eight minutes long (but I still don't get the bit with calling out random numbers).

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link

Submitted for your approval, Caledonia Soul Music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ecN3rOoFQ&list=RDb1ecN3rOoFQ#t=825

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link

Montreux 80 is ill

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

i have listened to this dude's discography to near completion a few times and i have noooo idea how to assemble this ballot

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 July 2017 11:44 (six years ago) link

gonna rep for a song he never officially recorded but played live a lot, and which finally appeared on an official van release (the it's too late box) last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXQn5AbNcw

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 July 2017 11:46 (six years ago) link

an amazing song that's sorta buried in the middle of tupelo honey is "you're my woman"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:07 (six years ago) link

and hard nose the highway gets a bad rep bc of it's really aimless second side but "snow in san anselmo" "warm love" and the title track is the strongest opening of... any van record, i think (moondance and veedon fleece prob rival it)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:10 (six years ago) link

"Warm Love" is on the comp, no?

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link

It's ever-present everywhere.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link

Duh.

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 27 July 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

lol

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 July 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

my brother and i were cracking up over Van's passionate delivery of "WHO'S YOUR SPONSOR!!??" on "I Paid The Price" recently

tylerw, Thursday, 27 July 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

I think I'm just going to send a top 5 covers list along with my ballot. He recorded too much good stuff to cram into a top 30. I mean he even did an awesome cover of Bein' Green.

that's not my post, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

^live version that is.

that's not my post, Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

falling in love with all these albums all over again.

the way that young lovers do >>>

Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

Reminder to vote. We're on a record pace with ballots but we need to keep the momentum going.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 27 July 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

a period of transition is still....not great. wavelength always surprises me at first though bc i loooooooove "kingdom hall"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link

the intrusions of non-van production and instrumentation are v refreshing. feels like there are way too many guitars on "kingdom hall" in a good way

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

it is maybe van's tackiest album tho

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 03:41 (six years ago) link

Listen at 54:20 or so. There's a bunch of ad lib and some numbers and I... still don't get it. Surely this is A Thing.

― leave your emu at the door (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:06 PM (one week ago)

Dialling codes - he's caught between 212 and 415 and 011 44 1 - New York, San Francisco, and London (dialling from America, back when the UK code for London was 01 not 020).

woof, Friday, 28 July 2017 10:04 (six years ago) link

Ah! Okay so totally different from the numbers in the outro of "Cleaning Windows." "Number a hundred and thirty six!"

okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 28 July 2017 10:36 (six years ago) link

van is from the lodge

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link

michael b is right upthread that "heavy connection" is a good song on period of transition but the other songs really don't pull their weight. i love the production though and i wonder what a more inspired van would've done on a bill withers-sounding record

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

i will find it v difficult to not vote for every track on common one

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

wavelength is a great record, i'm calling it. "kingdom hall," the title track, and "take it where you find it" alone

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

def putting this at an unreasonably high position in my ballot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHfcrOwBas

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link

Even though this album was singled out in the Kelefa Sanneh rockism article, this song is still worth your time and a spot on your ballot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u92E-e0t5HY

kornrulez6969, Friday, 28 July 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

into the music is a masterpiece really

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

The "TB Sheets" album has been a real revelation for me. I've always loved the title track (heard it on the radio years ago) but I probably prefer the version of "Madame George" on it to the "Astral Weeks" one.

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 28 July 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

is that one of those rearranged bang records comps of which there were once 100000 on itunes

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

ah the answer is yes

the halcyon days when the only van morrison records available digitally were a greatest hits comp and 1000000 variations of the bang records recordings and the funny piss-takes he did to get out of his bang contract

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

too unfamiliar with this discography to put together a real 30-track ballot but I'm gonna vote anyway

sleeve, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

I like Astral Weeks, Common One, and Veedon Fleece

please gimme some album/track recommendations, the longer and spacier the better

sleeve, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link


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