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i also have like 30 CD singles by these guys...

Bee OK, Thursday, 20 July 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

n/m just counted it is 17 singles but still.

Bee OK, Thursday, 20 July 2017 01:06 (six years ago) link

I'd be up for an SFA ballot poll... to be honest, the top 3 entries would be the easiest part of putting an SFA ballot together, but the other 17 entries...

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

There's definitely some good material on Hey, Venus but I agree with Bee OK re: jumping off at Love Kraft.

Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 20 July 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link

Hello Sunshine samples Wendy and Bonnie, who absolutely kicks ass!

Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 20 July 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link

Was listening to 13 by Blur the other day, and damn if "Battle" doesn't sound exactly like the Furries. Couple other moments on the album too. Have to imagine Blur or Orbit were listening to these guys when making it

I'd participate in an SFA poll too

Vinnie, Thursday, 20 July 2017 09:38 (six years ago) link

Super Furry Animals toured with Blur on their tour for Blur ... they were definitely aware of each other!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 09:46 (six years ago) link

lol only I was not aware

Vinnie, Thursday, 20 July 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link

Trying to imagine what the results of an SFA ballot poll would look like... it really could go in any direction, as unpredictable as the band themselves used to be. The only two songs I'm confident of are the Top 2, but even then I'm unsure which way around they'd be.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

jumped the ship with Love Kraft thou i did buy that CD.

So you've never heard Hey Venus! or DD/LY? They're good! Check them out.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 July 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

Yeah, check 'em out and see what you think, just don't expect to have your mind blown.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

(The latter in particular is one of their patchiest records.)

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

I find LK their patchiest, but that's fair. I really think HV! and DD/LY are underrated albums. Perhaps they're not SFA at their best, but I don't expect many bands 15 years into their career to hit that high point anymore anyway. It's a shame they've completely ignored them since their reunion, but I SUPPOSE the fans don't want to hear them anyway so I'm in a small minority of music listeners/fans!

I think we've had this conversation a few times by now...

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 July 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Like I've listened to Hey Venus! twice this week and wondered why I didn't rate it highly when it came it out. It's a perfectly competent record. Maybe that's why it was so underwhelming? I dunno. Just, compared to my typical reaction to listening to LK these days, I find HV! a very enjoyable, easy listen.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 July 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

Love Kraft is without a doubt their patchiest, but Dark Days/Light Years is their second patchiest and Hey Venus! is basically SFA in snack size.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

Hey Venus! b-sides are pretty good, too. I really don't find much fault with it. It's just not a progressive leap over anything they've done, though it has a few brilliant odds and ends. DD/LY--we'll just continue to agree to disagree on that one! I'm still surprised no b-sides ever surfaced, but I guess they went in and out of the studio fairly quickly.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 July 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

Rings Around The World is their patchiest record for me. I've never understood why people rate it so highly.

kitchen person, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

I thought it was the greatest album in the world when it came out (and I still love it), so I'll never understand people who don't rate it highly. :\ Another album with great b-sides, too.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link

n/m just counted it is 17 singles but still.

Always bought them because the b-sides were quality.

wtev, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link

/wtev, have you posted under a different name on ILx? you sound like you have been around.../

'whatever' and something less appropriate before then. 10-12 years? Some time before the ysi threads took off on ilm.

wtev, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

I'm still surprised no b-sides ever surfaced

Unfortunately, I wasn't surprised... CD singles were on their way out and I remember the 'Run-Away' single being difficult to get hold of.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

Always bought them because the b-sides were quality.

― wtev, Friday, July 21, 2017 2:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree - even as late as the Hey Venus! singles the B-sides were mostly great.

SFA didn't really write songs deliberately to be B-sides - most of 'em were originally meant to be album tracks but when assembling the albums they left 'em off. They just used to record songs and then make an album out of 'em, and then put the ones that didn't make it out as B-sides.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

Who's up for a B-sides poll

wtev, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

I don't think you'd be able to fit 'em all in one poll!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

Had they saved "Blue Fruit" for Love Kraft and dropped "Back on a Roll," people might have been kinder to the album. :)

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

'Blue Fruit' is awful, though!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

Like, I can't see how the inclusion of one of their weaker B-sides would have helped. Love Kraft is an EP ('Zoom!', 'Atomik Lust', 'Cloudberries', 'Cabin Fever') that they inflated to album-length with subpar tracks.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

Around the same era, tonally fits, still a Bunf song, and heck, I like it. Great outro, too! "Sunny Seville" wouldn't have fit. "Colonise the Moon" might've done something with a more interesting arrangement.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

"Frequency," "Ohio Heat," and "Walk You Home" are all great, u mad

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

I have a soft spot for "Psyclone!" honestly. The strings make it special. The bass isn't bad, either. Will never understand what the hell they were thinking with "Lazer Beam." Gruff must've been asleep when he wrote it.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

Not all of SFA's B-sides were A-side or album worthy, although many were. There's some great stuff like 'Waiting to Happen', 'Calimero', 'Hit and Run', 'Wrap It Up', 'Mrs. Spector', 'Colorblind', 'The Matter of Time', 'Charge', 'Edam Anchorman', 'Summer Snow', 'Sunny Seville' and 'These Bones' ...

... but there's also a few things that suck: 'nO.K.', 'Rabid Dog', 'Happiness Is a Worn Pun', 'Gypsy Space Muffin', 'Blue Fruit', 'Sanitizzzed' ...

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

'Colonise the Moon' sucks too.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

"Frequency," "Ohio Heat," and "Walk You Home" are all great, u mad

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, July 22, 2017 6:53 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'Ohio Heat' is passable but I loathe the other two. 'Frequency' is nothing special, but overrated like fuck by the hardcore. 'Walk You Home' is a drab, confused mess. I particularly hate 'Psyclone!' though, which is a cringeworthy lyric married to a drab tune that not even its multiple key changes can save.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link

I think "Sunny Seville" is more cringeworthy than anything on the album, lyrically. "Sucking on dictaphone"?

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

"Summer Snow," "Edam Anchorman" and "Patience" are so good

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

x-post:

I'll take that over "take the turbulence and twinkle your toes", which makes me wince. At least 'Sunny Seville' has a decent tune and the lyric is funny, rather than embarrassing.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

'Patience' is great and slipped through the cracks for years. Glad that it's been rescued from obscurity somewhat.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/eqaXssh.png

I don't even know anymore.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link

Maybe the aliens in hometown unicorn took them and replaced them with clones who exist only to milk the commercial cash cow.

wtev, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

I've convinced myself they're trying to fund a new album, but the truth is they're probably just old & tired and wish they'd signed that deal with Coca Cola.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

I wish they'd signed that deal with Coca-Cola.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 24 July 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

I've convinced myself they're trying to fund a new album, but the truth is they're probably just old & tired and wish they'd signed that deal with Coca Cola.

Hey they're younger than me and I'm not old.

wtev, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

So there's a pretty big group on Facebook that some members of the band are a part of, and Daf addressed the negative track on Out Spaced. Apparently it's the backing track to one of the original SFA songs he did with Rhys Ifans. For some reason the store was it was some noodling Bunf did. Anyway, I thought that was pretty cool. Apparently he didn't even know it was on the album and hadn't heard it in decades.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 July 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

He says he composed it himself. Not that it's an impressive composition or anything. Just a little more interesting trivia in this time of want.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 27 July 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

Well, that's that cleared up! Yeah, the story for years was that it was a Bunf demo from 1992.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link

They generally have shit memories when it comes to their own stuff.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 27 July 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

So the remaster came out today. I think it generally does sound a little better, maybe a little less murky. The bass is still barely present, but I don't think that's a problem a remaster can fix.

"Naff Gan" is the "Ice Hockey Hair" demo. The lyrics are the same as that live "Welcome to the Family" performance. It went from being a pretty charmless, grungey slice of nonsense to a classic, so it's an interesting historical piece. "Music Box" is just Gruff mumbling over some music.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

I'm not much interested in hearing it - not unless there's stuff on there that's "proper" songs that I haven't heard before.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 28 July 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

"Smoke" is an alternate mix of "Smokin'." I swear I heard this years ago on a compilation of some sort. But yeah, there's nothing AMAZING AND UNRELEASED on here. I think their vault is spent unless you want to go searching for some crumbs.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 28 July 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

The new El Goodo album Strangetown just released is great. Good follow-up to their last one, which is also great.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 18 September 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link


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