brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

a welcoming home for people like Alan Clarke after the Been had bottled out

Moviedrome was BBC2 tho iirc

Beeb. Fucking spell check

moviedrome was a big formative influence for me, cox was a great host

mark cousins, then as now, drove me up the wall when he took over

oh yeah, that was bbc2. There doesn't seem to be any home for someone like Alan Clarke these days, alas.

Channel 4, early on, also had a season of about 20 Fassbinder films - maybe more - God knows how long it would have been before I got the chance to see them. Also "Berlin Alexanderplatz" shown episodically.

The outcry over the red triangle series had entirely the opposite effect than the objectors had intended; the opening film, the grisly surreal comedy Themroc, garnered over two million viewers (Whitehouse apparently among them, later saying of its broadcast "It's not good enough to slap on a warning symbol and then indulge in sadistic madness of this kind."). Later films (mostly those whose TV Times synopses sounded racy) gained viewerships of over three million, figures which dwarfed those of the other channels still broadcasting that late (which carried fare of very limited appeal and educational programming from the Open University). Some critics contended that the whole series was a cynical attempt to wilfully stir controversy, and in practice many viewers discovered that "softcore porn" against which campaigners had railed was in fact genuine art cinema (and not the titillation for which they'd stayed up late). With viewing figures latterly declining, and press opposition remaining strong, Channel 4 quietly discontinued the red triangle the year after it had been introduced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_triangle_(Channel_4)

It's really not a bad list tbh

I discovered earlier this year that Berlin Alexanderplatz is what the real Golden Age of Television would be like if the bastards weren't in charge.

they showed Stephen Frears' Walter opening night; I haven't watched it in 30 years but as I recall that movie covered stuff that still gets ignored today. and the usual suspects went full mouth-froth

jesus, the Rotten Tomatoes synopsis describes McKellen's character in Walter as "moderately retarded", but I get the picture. The BBC only deals with cute middle class boys with autism, and the hand-wringing of their parents. Not the struggle and abuse faced by adults, because it isn't a trope that hasn't had a hit book and movie yet, I don't think.

Frears was great in the 80's, still love Prick Up Your Ears.

the absolute themroc

Walter controversially suggested that learning disabled adults might have autonomy and sexual desire, also that cuddly state care might not always function in their best interests

frears is wildly variable but "dirty pretty things" is one of my favourite post-2000 movies abt the UK (and london)

(a friend of mine worked on DPT it in production and said SF was non-stop annoyed abt how hard it had become to film in a london street: now you had to get permissions in triplicate, in the old days i guess you just plonked down yr crew and held up the traffic till you were done lol)

My Beautiful Launderette is still a great stew of sexual, racial and economic politics too

Come here from the inscrutable politics, get inscrutable movies on the teevee nostalgia

surely Dangerous Liaisons and The Grifters were quite mainstream US hit movies, weren't they? But admittedly MBL might be a bit less known over the pond.

I know which I prefer. I guess the cool sophistication of Ocean Colour Scene has its fans tho

I dunno, if I was Japanese I'd probably be pretty annoyed with the legions of man-children across the world idolizing my country because of its productivity in churning out cartoons where dudes have harems of teenage girls. Like, not that that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to, but more often than not...

Counterpoint: that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to

Prick Up Your Ears is pretty good as well.

As is *ahem* The Queen.

was just looking at the cast of Frears' Blair movie - The Deal (ulp!): Dexter Fletcher as Charlie Whelan, and father Jack playing John Smith!

Sorry Tom, went down a booze-based compulsive rabbit hole

what is it with high-profile brexiteers and the empire?

The British (1707 on) were almost always the Good Guys. Claiming otherwise is the very worst & emptiest sort of moral relativism.

— Andrew Lilico (@andrew_lilico) July 19, 2017

You mean, aside from the obvious, that they're Little Englander dicks?

I know which I prefer. I guess the cool sophistication of Ocean Colour Scene has its fans tho

I dunno, if I was Japanese I'd probably be pretty annoyed with the legions of man-children across the world idolizing my country because of its productivity in churning out cartoons where dudes have harems of teenage girls. Like, not that that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to, but more often than not...

― Daniel_Rf, 19. juli 2017 17:24 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was at a press screening for Isao Takahata's classic Only Yesterday this morning, and there was one in the crowd who wasn't a bearded man. It's a delicate, all most Fellini'esque two hour anime drama about a young girl growing up in the sixties. It felt wrong, somehow, as if the newsrooms hadn't really thought this through.

let's make andrew lilico an ilxor

Fuck that guy so bad. It's like leftie twitter has placed him in the "basically acceptable right-wing always-wrong poster who is OK to talk at and monitor for amusement" bucket (which bucket could use a catchier name) when actually with the minorest scratch of his surface you find a fundamentally racist, bigoted reactionary who belongs in the Hopkins bin

From where I'm looking left twitter pretty much poured scorn on his defense of the empire stuff

Why are you all talking about Ocena Colour Scene? wtf is all of this?

Counterpoint: that's what all international engagement with anime amounts to

― The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:46 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's what all international student exchange amounts to

LOL

“Seventeen years of hurt ­never stopped us dreaming,” he said. “Labour’s coming home.”

Tony Blair is an asshole, but just purely as craft, this is fairly good.

Britpop was definitely cool for me when I began listening to music late 90's - early 00's. That Blur Best Of with the stylized pictures of them on the cover, and a bunch of songs that seemed to actually be about the world of today. Yeah, it was cool.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

#respectableLeft

Yeah. I heard Country House back in 99, and it really made me think. That's when I decided Macron was a cool guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRFpyrYzPTw

But Blair paraphrasing some fucking nauseating 90's Baddiel/Skinner (genuine shuddering) travesty is not even close to fairly good craft, Fred. There is nothing fucking good about it at all!

It's catchy, and it positions Labour as idealistic underdogs. No, it's fairly good craft. But Three Lions is good craft as well. It's of course also loathsome and fuck that warmongering asshole. I mean, a comparison with Ignition (Remix) is not off the table.

No it doesn't and no it isn't. You're not doing UK politics as well now are you?

Right now I'm doing literary analysis.

Good, I feared you were adding another string to your tattered bow.

That's a bad metaphor.

The line is corny af to begin with but I can appreciate it wouldn't be easy for someone outside the UK to pick up on quite how wince-inducing it is in the context of authentocrat pandering to imagined working class cliches, cultural gentrification, the intersection of 'Cool Britannia' jingoism and Skinner / Baddiel's ironic xenophobia / misogyny, etc, etc.

Possibly it wasn't a line designed to appeal to the enormous voting tranche of ilxors

If you puked up at Blair banging on about the People's Princess, this is similarly mawkish, like a warm-up for Diana-based speech chunder.

Its good craft...yet loathsome. Its nice that someone can hold two opinions like this. Very progressive and open to things, our Fred.

The irony is that xyzzzz is mainly just butthurt because I pointed out he knew nothing about French politics, yet insisted on his right to have extremely bad takes.

Just a giant pile of pointless puke, our xyzzz.

Praying for Denmark rn.

Lol, I bet you don't even know what country Denmark is.

Haven't seen a Danish attack on the English left like this since [history reference][football reference]

That's a bad metaphor.

Explain.

What are you an expert in now? The English language or violin bows?

He just has complex thoughts.