Very good.
― jmm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
oh I like this
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
This is great.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
always love to hear trent's higher register
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
I love the goopy bass sound on this, whatever's making that. I think it's a synth.
― jmm, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
been chilling in the studio with alessandro cortini
― mh, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
Definitely a treat. Two for two here!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
yea I like this one too, well done
is there a new LP coming after this er what?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
He's doing 3 EPs, of which this is the second.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link
Another good one! Very promising, though I'd much rather see these songs paired on a 12 track album instead of ep's of varying quality.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
The final track on this ep is 11 mins long.
― chap, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 09:29 (six years ago) link
Just got my download of the EP.
1. Less Than - 3:302. The Lovers - 4:103. This Isn't the Place - 4:444. Not Anymore - 3:075. The Background World - 11:44
Listening now.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link
OK, first impressions: All the songs are good, if minimal. No sonic or compositional surprises; he's playing to his base. No really cringeworthy couplets, though, which is a big plus. The last song is 11:44, but seven minutes of that are a loop of the main riff gradually devolving into crunchy noise. Definitely worth it if you're a fan, but not likely to make anyone into a fan.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link
is there more good eurorack content?
― mh, Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
No really cringeworthy couplets
Silence/violence is pretty cringeworthy.
― chap, Thursday, 20 July 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link
overused != cringeworthy
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 20 July 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
There is a significant overlap.
― chap, Thursday, 20 July 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
A long and very interesting interview.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
He's got kind of a point about LP versus EP -- if I go to listen to a full album, I'm more likely to skip through to the songs I want to hear, but an EP, especially the way the NIN releases have been assembled, is pretty cohesive and I'll let the whole thing play out.
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
(there are about a hundred things I've wanted to comment on but that one was a quick thought and I don't want to bomb the thread before anyone else reads the interview!)
that was pretty good - but this interviewer is a bit confrontational, no?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
lol @ this
Just this morning, me and my two older boys were sitting in the hotel restaurant. Their mom has played the new EP for them a couple times. They’re like, “My favorite song is ‘Less Than’.” That’s sweet, but then I’m thinking, Don’t I say ‘fuck’ in that one? Same thing when they were at sound check: What song don’t I say ‘fuck’ in?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
it's condensed from a couple conversations, so I'd imagine asking some questions and seeing that Reznor's not really a defensive guy and could take prodding led to more interesting questions
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
The digression into dealing with the parents of your kids' schoolmates when everyone knows you as the dude who sang "I want to fuck you like an animal" was great.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
Confrontational in this "hey, you wanna expand on that a little?"/"I don't really get where you're going with this" sense is vastly preferable to confrontational in the German-interviewer "Why is your new album so much worse than the one before?" sense.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
fucking german interviewers, man
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
Thought this was an even better interview.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
Correction: not 'even better', but good yet quite different etc
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
well yeah - the questions were definitely way more interesting than your standard NIN interview fare. though I did get the sense he was trying to bait him into saying something headline-worthy.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
ehh it definitely has the feeling of a narrative that explains who the interview is with but the pull quotes and summary are less interesting than Reznor's actual words in the Vulture interview. it also relies on the myths propagated by writers that the former one debunks
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
that was re: LBI's link
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
i closed the tab when the piece described la croix as "fancy seltzer"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
lol
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
otmfm
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
The phenomenon of La Croix suddenly being a nationwide thing sill baffles and amazes me.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
Mh, you are right.
'The Chili Peppers slot' is one for the ages though :D
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
it usurped clearly canadian's cultural niche in the 90s revival movement
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that was a good quote
I have actually been at festivals where the last act was indeed that band, and I have the impression that every festival in california for years was that way
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
also we did leave to get on the road lol
the footnotes in this Vulture interview are bananas. what percentage of people reading a long-ass interview with Trent Reznor need an explanation of who Pink Floyd is?
― evol j, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
This is very scattered on my part but the talk in the interview re money at various points prompted some quick notes; click through for it all.
So, amid all the more obviously important idiocies of the day, something interesting I've noticed re that Reznor/Marchese interview...— Ned Raggett (@NedRaggett) July 26, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link
It's definitely interesting. He brought up private torrent sites again, which he seems to have been a member of if you connect the dots between comments. I don't think he's even said it explicitly but the pay-to-stream model, with premium physical releases (vinyl with extra art and bonus junk) seems to be his preferred way of putting music in the market. But accessibility and artist control as opposed to label control is the running theme.
There was at least one thing, although I'm not remembering what it was -- maybe it was the full set of Coil NIN remixed material -- made it way to torrent sites and it was implied he dumped it himself.
Interestingly, his touring bandmates have definitely released via bandcamp and similar platforms, and purchase stuff there regularly.
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
found cortini's public profile when I was searching out of curiosity -- looks like someone is a kevin drumm subscriber :)https://bandcamp.com/alessandrocortini
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
I think there's been at least one other more dismissive comment of Bandcamp he made a couple of years back, but I sure do wonder about him really not wanting to grant the idea that people can be directly paid for their work. Which may be an exaggeration but I almost think nearly all of this is him wanting a middleman. At the least, he was direct about not wanting to be his own marketer.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link
Yeah, it's pretty clear he's still feeling burned by the Saul Williams album numbers and how many people opted in to pay
― mh, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
I think the elephant in the room here is that the audience willing to associate their credit card info with the purchase of an album titled The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust! is, by definition, self-limiting.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
BUT THE ART
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
It's kinda weird, it does seem to be the moment of his life more than anything -- even more than The Fragile tours, as he talked about in the Marchese interview -- where he had to deal with the fact that just because he's popular doesn't mean he could snap his fingers and make something happen.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link
I'm just saying, I can imagine more than one NIN fan going "Oh Trent is involved in this Saul Williams album? Awesome, let me check it out... 'The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of WHAT NUH-UH NOPE SORRY DUDE"
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
Retitle it A Journey To Liberation and see what happens to the numbers; I bet they'd go up
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link