abacab

first few bars of dodo start off like something off king crimson's red. and then it turns into this odd skank prog bologna

wondering if any dance records have looped the goofy lurker riff

if not why not

not really thought aboput this before but elements of dodo sound a lot like the police's behind my camel which obv came out on zenyatta mondatta one year earlier

Omg at "skank prog bologna"

Green would approve, though probably not of Genesis.

thank u nickb for "skank prog bologna"

does it get to earn them back? how long will that take, I am concerned about this record not having sufficient pointage when all is said and done

― Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:06 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It does, but it never does.

I don't know. even the prog attempts on IT strike me as hollow and unengaging. There are bits of Domino that are interesting, and the Brazillian, but they seem very rote to me, and there is no heart in them. The songs sound thin, sonically, and compositionally: they don't sound like they spent very much time writing them. Maybe it's just because I spent more time with s/t than that album since s/t I got when it was released; but the pop songs on there are fantastic, interesting, engaging; and In Too Deep just sounds like easy listening pap to me.

Collins' singing is full of heart on 'Domino'!

akm otm

Well, I couldn't possibly agree with Invisible Touch being hollow and unengaging - absolutely not. If anything, it's an inviting and relatable record that's easy to connect with as the songs deal woith real human emotions, rather than fall back on wacky fantasy nonsense. The songs don't sound "thin" at all, rather they've pruned away anything that doesn't need to be there - all meat, no fat.

This is another failure of Abacab: it's meant to be a more urgent, stark, direct record, but the epics on here are anything but, and thus ultimately tedious. Invisible Touch doesn't have this problem.

this thread is forcing me to look deep inside and reexamine some longstanding core principles

Phil Collins would have made a great guest on The Muppet Show.

the songs deal woith real human emotions, rather than fall back on wacky fantasy nonsense

i already regret engaging but, which songs on abacab do this beyond "dodo"

The title track.

I want to see Phil drum battle against Animal.

The title track.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:40 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i must not be reading it right

^^^ he has a built-in ability to endlessly disagree

― Tim F, Monday, July 17, 2017 8:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is hilarious btw tim

Well, maybe just the heartbreaking second half of the title track.

"Phil Collins would have made a great guest on The Muppet Show."

well his spitting image puppet would have made a great guest on the muppet show, then we could have had a puppet-off

Phil sighting at 1:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wCOuLZmt1c

Has anyone watched the Phil Collins This Is Your Life? I just skipped to the Genesis section as it seems like the worst show in the history of television.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPn2FQpWz0k

I've seen the Mike Rutherford one. I don't think Jonathan King makes an appearance as I believe it arrived during his Proto-Yewtree period

man I'm sorry but I just tried to listen to Anything She Does and that song is just straight up garbage.

Excellent song. Great chorus.

benny hill in the video iirc

song couldve used some yakety sax to liven it up a bit imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdyEiZG9fdQ

this thread is forcing me to look deep inside and reexamine some longstanding core principles

― Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:22 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Phil Collins would have made a great guest on The Muppet Show.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:30 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great 1-2 punch

i had forgotten about the bridge to "no reply at all", so great

― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, July 17, 2017 3:47 PM (four years ago)

it really is

Lmao at Turrican relentlessly hating on this album upthread. For me it's so obviously the best Collins-era album and it's not even close (I'd still go with Gabriel era if I had to choose, but only The Lamb and Foxtrot are better than Abacab imo).

Also perfect aesthetic synergy of musical content + album art (specifically the version with the primary colors + gray, but the different color variations on the initial pressing was a cool idea)

Yeah this album is incredible. And it's probably my second favourite Genesis album overall after SEBTP and "Keep It Dark" favourite Genesis song overall :)

"Who Dunnit" joins "Temporary Secretary" and "Mother" in the trifecta of famously very divisive tracks on early 80s UK number one albums by major acts that RYM refers to as 'zolo' and for which fanclubs might as well exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R6qu62xekE

ABACAB RULES
Is how I break it down to an extent

^^^

would vote for “like it or not” now

Fishy got problems