yea
― down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
for sure. it would be difficult to separate this sort of thing for any artist but R. comes off as an insane freak on nearly everything he does which makes it downright impossible.
― frogbs, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link
Separating the art from the man becomes virtually impossible given how much of it is about sex.
yeah he is kind of unusual in this respect, usually artists are more circumspect or obfuscatory (or, dare I say it, artistic) but he doesn't seem to bother
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link
like Spector's got some abusive material in his catalog, but he doesn't have songs that are literally about shooting women (see also James Brown, Michael Jackson, etc.)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
well he has one that is about hitting women but yeah
― akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link
right
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
sterling's initial reaction on the teenie pron thread is still one of the most O_O things i've seen on ilx
― nomar, Monday, 17 July 2017 15:27 (four hours ago) Permalink
Dude!!
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 17 July 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
well this is certainly a take
So... R. Kelly is in a polyamorous, dom/sub relationship with multiple consenting adult women. This is alarming why? https://t.co/V0HNSIIRzs— ElizabethNolanBrown (@ENBrown) July 17, 2017
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link
no one needed that
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
ah yes, the "naive people should be taken advantage of" school of libertarian commentator
― mh, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link
The one place I"m seeing completely different comments is on the FB posts from Windy City Live, the popular Chicago morning show.
― Eazy, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
Robbie Gold you can't argue with women who take off there clothes causes man to fall they always play the vitamin. That's why man have this problem because women are the cause they don't wanna cover up there bodies. Makes no sense some women these are not ladies but strippers
― Eazy, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
they always play the vitamin
― Neanderthal, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
why you always gotta play the vitamin
― Οὖτις, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
Vitamin-blaming
― Eazy, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
The terrifying thing is that that post was edited
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link
"wait I got something wrong" *erases "victim", types "vitamin"* "PERFECT"
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, July 17, 2017 12:57 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh wow.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
libertarians basically exist to provide bad ppl with the justification for their horrible deeds
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
yeesh, sterling being a super fucking creep. is he still lingering around ILX or is he in prison now
― akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
sterling also wrote a piece for the village voice where he dismissively compared the case against kelly to ken starr going after bill clinton
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 July 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
the way ilxor was a safe space for old dudes to talk about young women on those teen pop threads was always so fucking creepy to me
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
sterling isn't that old, he was at Cal the same time I was if not slightly later...oh maybe I am old. anyway it doesn't make him not a creep.
― akm, Monday, 17 July 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
Sterl is a pretty sharp guy about a lot of other things on ILX and still posts occasionally. I would assume he's fully ashamed of his R Kelly defenses? He never struck me as creepy whenever I ran into him in person.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 17 July 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
Slate interview with DeRogatis. Here's the crucial quote, for me:
How long did you work on the story?Nine months. It came to me in early November.What was the reporting process like? Was most of that time spent trying to get people to talk?Most of that time was spent, post–Hulk Hogan and Gawker, finding a media outlet that was willing to run it. I’ve been working with BuzzFeed since Wednesday afternoon, and those were 12-plus–hour days every single day until this morning.
What was the reporting process like? Was most of that time spent trying to get people to talk?Most of that time was spent, post–Hulk Hogan and Gawker, finding a media outlet that was willing to run it. I’ve been working with BuzzFeed since Wednesday afternoon, and those were 12-plus–hour days every single day until this morning.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 11:22 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that's pretty telling.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Monday, July 17, 2017 4:07 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
because you never broached the topic of having sex with minors?
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
Typically the icebreaker I lead with.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
What is the thread you guys are talking about?
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
R. Kelly busted for teenie pr0n
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
Sterl's position appears to be that consent laws are arbitrary when it comes to age
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
tbf they are pretty arbitrary but most reasonable people err on the side of protecting potential victims
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
How old is fifteen really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75XKGVwGEt4
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
This underage sex cult news has been around for years btw... Back in 2013 there was an article on villagevoice of how R Kelly had a large amount of civil and criminal lawsuits that have been filed by girls aged 13-16 that he has been acquitted for by the justice system or settled out of court for (presumably) large sums of money and how allegedly Kelly had the girls recruit other girls their age (13-16) and had sex with many of them. Sad it took so many years to confirm the story.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
today on Facebook R Kelly (or at least, his team) shared an interesting picture of him with Nelson Mandela comparing their struggles through adversity
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link
ffs
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
...
http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/r-kelly-raised-alleged-victim-since-she-was-14-or-15.html
― Eazy, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
woman denying she is being coerced:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/entertainment/joycelyn-savage-r-kelly-father/?iid=ob_homepage_deskrecommended_pool
― akm, Thursday, 20 July 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link
"I haven't been in contact because..."
― albvivertine, Thursday, 20 July 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link
When asked about her current whereabouts, if she has roommates, or if she’s free to leave, however, all she would say is “I wouldn’t want to speak on that.”http://www.stereogum.com/1952502/r-kellys-alleged-captive-speaks-out/video/
― niels, Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:22 (six years ago) link
Sounds legit
― albvivertine, Thursday, 20 July 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/November-2017/The-Lonely-Crusade-of-Jim-DeRogatis/
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 October 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/1863ed90-cb3d-42af-ab07-e922caac6452
Fresh allegations have also arisen against the singer, claiming he “knowingly and intentionally infected” a 19-year-old woman with an STD.
fuck this guy forever
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 April 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/news/women-of-color-of-times-up-call-on-rca-records-ticketmaster-more-to-cut-ties-with-r-kelly/
the first 2 sentences of the response (from kelly's management):
Kelly supports the pro-women goals of the Time’s Up movement. We understand criticizing a famous artist is a good way to draw attention to those goals—and in this case, it is unjust and off-target.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 30 April 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
Dropped from Chicago (UIC) concert
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 30 April 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link
I looked the other way/supported/excused this guy for so long and I feel so guilty about it.
― Evan R, Friday, 4 May 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
19-minute song sounds like the walls are closing in.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 23 July 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
Also sounded like he didn't want to sit on his hands instead of competing with Scorpion flows.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 23 July 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link
It's like the #MeToo 'Supper's Ready'
― PaulTMA, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
may the survivors finally find peace
― Murgatroid, Monday, 27 September 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link