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Yeah, couldn't reduce this down to any list. Too much goodness to be had! Ah well, another group-I-could-never-have-seen.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Jazz Odysseus OTM. I'm Never Gonna Die Again is surprisingly great. But it came out, what, more than 10 years ago? Has Rowland released anything since?

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 7 May 2004 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Xpost - John, I meant the song "Junkyard" in particular, especially the part where NC's yelling "honey-honey-honey," it's smashing. The whole album is great, of course.

When I was really obsessed with the Birthday Party I looked all over the place for Crime and the City Solution records (except the disappointing Paradise Discotheque) and couldn't find any - did anyone ever reissue them? maybe I should check on slsk.

― daria g (daria g), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Somehow I've ended up with four CatCS CDs over the years! And they're all pretty good in their own ways.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

On one of the last few drunken nights I was allowed before the stranglehold of fatherhood fastened its grip, I once was threatened with severe bodily harm after drunkenly grabbing a stranger by the lapels and barking a garbled snippet from "Mutiny in Heaven" (specifically "I TIED OFF...FUCKING WINGS BURST OUT MY BACK LIKE I WAS CUTTING TEETH...I TOOK OFF!!!!) on the corner of Prince and Elizabeth Streets. It had to be done.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Most bold, sir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I believe the word you are looking for is "stupid"...or perhaps the hyphenated "ill-advised". But, y'know, I was conveniently with burly friends at the time, so I escaped unscathed.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I couldn't get started on work tonight (term papers) so I put on "Mutiny in Heaven" really, really loud in an attempt to wake myself up. Hooray. PUNISHMENT!! REWARD!! It still took me until halfway through Jesus Lizard's Liar to pack my books and leave the house.

― daria g (daria g), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link

any love for the simon bonney alt country records?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:27 (nineteen years ago) link

wings off flies is a nice conceit.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Baaderoni: rowland has released one (very good) solo album since that last TIS album: "teenage snuff film". he plays shows on a multiple-weekly basis around melbourne but doesn't appear to do much in the way of recording..

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

daria marry me ok?

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 8 May 2004 06:55 (nineteen years ago) link

any love for the simon bonney alt country records?

I like the two I've heard.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 8 May 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the first one, and there are some lovely songs on the second ("Everyman") like "Don't Walk Away From Love" and the version of "Blue Eyes Crying In the Rain", but it bothers me that he'll use the same chord progression for most of the songs (it's the one Neil Young uses in "Helpless") and I'm surprised someone (producer, maybe) didn't insist that it be varied a bit.

― jazz odysseus (jazz odysseus), Saturday, 8 May 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

there has clearly not been enough love for KING INK on this thread. that guitar riff is brutal, setting the template for like.. ever Jesus Lizard song ever. and nick just goes out of his mind screaming gibberish. love it.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 9 May 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

The band is very hit-or-miss, so I don't know that I'd call them classic. But Release The Bats is fantastic.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 9 May 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

What a band.

I pulled out Prayers On Fire for the first time in a while cuz of this thread.

Insanely great.

― Broheems (diamond), Monday, 10 May 2004 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

God, I love this band. I've got Live 81-82 turned way the hell up and I'm wearing my Hee-Haw shirt. I feel like I could seduce someone or kill them just by training my eyes on them.

― Ian Riese-Moraine's all but an ark-lark! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 3 June 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

The DVD reissue of the Factory Video 'Sometimes Pleasure Heads Must Burn' has some tasty extras, including the band going berserk on the cheesy set of some Oz lite-entertainment program around Junkyard-time. Tracey bending over backwards and ending up with his head in the bass drum. Insane.

― Soukesian, Friday, 3 June 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex, did he do something to you first?!

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 3 June 2005 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

including the band going berserk on the cheesy set of some Oz lite-entertainment program around Junkyard-time. Tracey bending over backwards and ending up with his head in the bass drum. Insane.
I think some Nick Cave/BP site had a clip of that up! Inspiring shit. I need that DVD. And the Peel Sessions. Otherwise I have everything else.

― Ian Riese-Moraine's all but an ark-lark! (Eastern Mantra), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex, did he do something to you first?!

Nope. Well, he was busy being a hepcat.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 3 June 2005 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Reason enough. A fine last hurrah for Alex, methinks.

I'm here to confess my love for 'Nick the Stripper' and 'Deep In The Woods', and the Birthday Party in general. Can I also say how much I love the 'Nick the Stripper' video? Fucked-up Nick truly is his best incarnation. It's the hair, I think. Oh and the dead stare...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 June 2005 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Has the Cash cover of "Mutiny In Heaven" ever surfaced or is it just an urban legend?

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 4 June 2005 01:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Can someone do a kind of objective CD80 list (including Nick Cave solo)? (like a best singles). My knowledge of The Birthday Party is sorely lacking, especially for someone with The Jesus and Mary Chain and My Bloody Valentine in my top 3 groups.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 4 June 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I might have said this before, but the Birthday Party's Mutiny In Heaven is as classic as they get.

― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

including Nick Cave solo

Sorry, impossible to fit this *and* BP stuff in one CD80. There's just too much goodness!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 June 2005 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

As someone who likes the BP but never really got into Nick Cave, I could be asked to do the task.. but i think there already is a decent enough collection released out there, Spencer, that makes a great intro disc. I forget the name though. :/

― donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

It's called Hits, simply enough. And yep, it's quite good.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 June 2005 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link

everything by The Birthday Party + the first four Nick Cave albums (From Her To Eternity, The Firstborn Is Dead, Kicking Against The Pricks & Your Funeral, My Trial!) = classic.

Oh, and It's Still Living >>> Live 81-82, if only because of that Funhouse cover I just don't get. (I have the Stooges' Funhouse Sessions box, so it's not that I don't like the song, I'm just not into that particular cover version) And the Dead Joe arrangement on It's Still Living = one of my fav things ever.

― StanM, Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link

HANDS UP WHO WANTS TO DIE??!!

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:50 (eighteen years ago) link

also release the bats is the best record ever made

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 4 June 2005 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link

OH LUCY, YOU'VE MADE A SINNAH OUTTA ME, WAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! AND NOW I'M BURNIN' LIKE AH SAINT, DOWN IN -- SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMP laaand!

― The plastic yoghurt guns of Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 4 June 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link

HANDS UP WHO WANTS TO DIE??!!

One of his two best song intros (the other being the unintentional one at the start of Therapy?'s Troublegum album -- "HERE I AM, MOTHERFUCKAH!")

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 4 June 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

when Cave screamed "Hands up who wants to die?" at Perkins Palace on the first Bad Seeds tour, maybe second or third song of the set, the whole place just went electric - everybody'd been wondering if he was going to do any BP stuff and he tore that thing to pieces

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 4 June 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

rowland has released a new 7" backed by the deveastations recently. unfortunately neither of the songs (i gather) are new - just new versions of songs on his seven-odd year old last album..

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Sunday, 5 June 2005 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...

according to http://www.nickcaveandthebadseeds.com, this is the brand new website for The Birthday Party: http://www.thebirthdayparty.com.au/ .

Does this mean... I dunno, reunion plans, new compilation, remasters, Nick playing Birthday Party songs live again, (any other ideas?) ?

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The Birthday Party Sings Sesame Street

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I can imagine them playing "Doing the Pigeon" pretty clearly.

― Pangolino 2, Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

"RUBBER DUCKIE MY GAWD YOU ARE THE ONE SHOOTING UUUUUP!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link

E.L.M.O. (Pow, Pow, Pow)

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope no reunion. Without Tracy Pew, it isn't the Birthday Party. I missed the chance to see 'em, too (wasn't old enough to get into the show at the Palace - clueless Richard Cromelin the next day in the LA Times clearly hadn't known what to make of young-Nick-on-fire), but that doesn't mean I want to see people who've grown beyond that trying to reignite it.

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...

every time i listen to BP i remember why i dont like solo nick cave

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 January 2006 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

ARGH SO GOOD

― cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 January 2006 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm surprised "Deep In the Woods" is not rated more on this thread, though.

yes, "deep in the woods" = THE GREATEST.

― controversial buffalo stance (haitch), Monday, 23 January 2006 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link

sometimes, pleasure heads must burn.

― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Monday, 23 January 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

and if you can hunt down the version of Dead Joe that Nick did on his solo Australian tour a few years back, GET IT. It's great. He just pummels the piano and screams that shit.

oh ho ho indeed

Birthday Party = Classic, obv

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Friday, 27 January 2006 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link

WHERE NO FISH CAN SWIM

― ZR (teenagequiet), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

that live "Dead Joe" is so awesome, you can almost hear the moment when he sorta remembers "God, I was so young and pissed off and it was kinda awesome"

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Friday, 27 January 2006 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks for posting that "Dead Joe"....very cool. I saw NC & The Bd/Sds. in 2002 and they absolutely incredible, Cave can certainly still belt it/scream it out when he wants

Birthday Party=utter classic in my house...they were arty, weird, but also physical and raw, grotesque, bizarre and wonderful. Also rarely has a band been so well-served by a great hits collection, I love all the albums, but "Hits" is still great, I still listen to it

― chris besinger (chris besinger), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

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