How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Live?

I used to have a copy of maximum r&r or somesuch magazine with an interview with mascis where he recounts playing for Allin's band.

How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Dead?

Person in talk show audience: GG, you are no good!

GG: I am the greatest! You suck!

x50

Roll credits.

Thurston Moore was in that Cat Club lineup, too. I was too scared to go.

still waiting for instructions on spotting phil freeman

The more likely scenaro is that no matter whether one is gay or straight or somewhere in between, the idea of GG's nasty cock in one's mouth is repulsive

I can't believe I actually have to explain this, but the humor in that scene comes from the fact that the narrator is casually mentioning G.G. having a devoted fanbase, which (as David R. illustrated quite humorously), one might usually take to mean obsessive collectors, or even Beatlemania-style screamers, but in fact is illustrated with a matter-of-fact snapshot of a smiling fan giving a thumbs up while blowing this filthy, gnarly scumbag, who is passed out. One assumes sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario (I actually don't recall any point in the film where G.G.'s sexuality is explored at all, but it's been ages since I saw it) - it's just another moment of crusty shock; the gutter punk version of frat house pictures of guys drawing on their passed out friends' faces, maybe.

I have no problem at all with guys blowing each other - I'm all for it.
The scene is OBVIOUSLY played for laughs through the contrast between the narration and the visual. Maybe you could argue against the director's intentions, but not with fucking ME for thinking that it's hilarious.

Actually, you DO have to explain. Or rather, ONE has to explain. This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.

Yes, of course, I get the humor of the scene (and David R.'s illustration). I think it's funny too. So more power to ya for being all for guys blowing each other and thinking that the scene is hilarious. I applaud both realities. Seriously.

But yet again (gee Phil, guess my monomania was justified after all), in a sold out auditorium of people watching that scene, not a single person laughed even though they had been laughing at everything else up until that point. The scene is indeed obviously played for laughs. And yet...

So one might assume "sexuality has nothing at all to do with this scenario" (not me, though). But it sure had everything to do with that particular response. And ALL I was trying to do was figure out if that "ridiculous" comment was a species of same.

I saw GG in Detroit and I fled to the back of the room just like everyone else when the poo started to fly.

I think I escaped poo-free, but who knows? Geeg also tossed a bunch of hardware around, which was quite a bit more frightening.

The funniest part about the show was that some guy with a fro came out before GG and sang 2 or 3 punkish songs to many boos before he fessed up and taunted the audience with "do you REALLY want GG ALLIN???"

This portion of the thread started because Stephen called that scene "ridiculous." (And actually, what exactly was ridiculous is unclear. Was it the scene or the comment about the scene?) That's it - just "ridiculous" which can mean MANY things.

I can't believe I'm having to clarify this, either... but by "ridiculous" i obviously meant "ridiculously funny" and Savannah Smiles summed up the inherent humor perfectly a few posts up.

Does that help, Kevin?

I read about GG on wikipedia today and I'm rather highly ashamed I know more trivia about him than I do about, well, any other random fucking person ever born, as in "I know about 0 facts about some random person from oklahoma" vs "I know a couple of things about GG Allin" = is there a bullet in that gun can I put it in my mouth

As bad as I feel about reading his wikipedia page though I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude

Having now watched the documentary on PTV and (browsed) the YouTube clips linked above, I was wondering if anyone could clarify: Did GG ever actually rape anyone onstage, as he claims in the Springer clip? I find this very hard to believe, as it seems violent intervention would have been inevitable before he would have gotten even close to penetration. I would assume he's just full of bluster about the rape thing, but the clips from the doc of him randomly assaulting both men and women have me curious.

Yes, thanx, Stephen. Kisses.

I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles

-- GG Allin, Sunday, 27 April 2008 03:20 (41 minutes ago)

were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle

i think his music is pretty tuneful but i think he stole all his melodies from hank williams and so on

i remember reading abt how he claimed he was going to kill himself on stage and thinking how awful

Early Geeg sounds like a bad version of the Knack. Later Geeg, far less catchy.

recently a friend accused me of being really into gg allin in high school and i was like i know like two facts abt the guy and ive never heard his music - then i was accused of concealing my embarrassing gg allin fandom

fact

was it all just the spectacle

^

I can still feel superior to you sad, sad imbeciles with nothing better to do than watch a fucking documentary about this dude

what a weird thing to say

were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle

choice b. made great copy for the village voice. and after all the threats about offing himself onstage, he OD'd on dope. what a pussy.

i used to read about this guys antics and think 'why would anybody subject themselves to this?'

but maybe i'm a philistine. or a pussy.

Bite It You Scum is a fucking banger.

'Drink fight and fuck' has always been our Geeg preference.

More unsettling than 'Hated' is the Lisa Suckdog denial clips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQysD6MNseU&feature=related

One very good actor or one seriously fucked up bloke

There's a part 2 blockbuster to add to the above

^^^^ sorry forgot to mention - this was at a Geeg poetry night.

After his readings, he would entertain guests with impressions and cookery demos if he fancied it. Geeg could cook a mean burger

So Kevin, how is it that you were able to read all those "blue hair old biddy"-like people's minds and discern the motivations for their (non-)reactions? In addition to being the most enlightened person in the room, are you also psychic?

i chickened out of going to see him at the khyber once. but then i wasn't really a fan or anything. and i just didn't feel like leaving the apartment.

my pal malcom was friends with gg and he supposedly has tons of homemade footage of gg in the woods and and all manner of cock on cock action, but i never saw any of it. can't say i'm disappointed.

the dude who did seriously scare me back then was malcom's friend brian - who was also friends with gg i think - in that "scary junkie who looks like he could stab your eyes out at any minute" kinda way. he was in starvation army. he's dead too. i don't really miss these people. i only really miss the sad, gentle junkies i knew who died. they existed too.

Phillips's Frat House is on Google Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7261092316031625877

According to Wikipedia it was nothing so exciting as HBO "burying" it because Phillips crossed ethical lines. It was just that hazing scenes were staged so they didn't show it.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2e3bxae.jpg

were people at all into this guys music or was it all just the spectacle
choice b. made great copy for the village voice. and after all the threats about offing himself onstage, he OD'd on dope. what a pussy.
i used to read about this guys antics and think 'why would anybody subject themselves to this?'

yeah, that was pretty much my attitude at the time, too -- even wrote a review of g.g.'s live r.o.i.r. cassette to that effect. but then, i was never much a fan of karen finley performance art schtick or wesley willis indie-rock insanity fetishes either.

in retrospect, though, his music doesn't seem like it was completely horrible. i've known a few people who are even bigger fans of, say, the 4 skins or david allen coe or antiseen or rose tattoo or count bishops than i am, and they liked g.g., too; i can sort of get that -- his music sounded kinda like a way more half-assed version of that stuff. what i never got was the people who said they liked him but didn't seem to have any use at all for rose tattoo/4 skins/bishops/coe/antiseen/etc. that made no sense; they sure weren't going to see him for his songs.

Some comments on that YouTube page:

Esplender (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
WHERE IS ALL THE POO!?

touchfinder73 (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
I love all GG Allin, but this stuff is his best.. cherry ass GG
Allin.. This rocks and always will... Unfortunately everyone just
knows him as the naked pooper... thats what happens to someone after
playing for 20 years.. at least he kept it different..

terrorjism (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
this makes gg look like such a cunt

wagner6 (1 year ago) 0 Reply | Spam
Man GG was still attractive in this.

frankcotton (9 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam
ha ha! This is back before GG got REALLY crazy.

MNHJUZ (9 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam
Is it an axiom that these so-called punk-rockers and anarchists
have to be stupid and stinking. They are;they are stinking,dumb,ignorant
pieces of rotten sperm.

bedrocker7 (8 months ago) -2 Reply | Spam
Hey GG worshippers: after your first child is born, make sure
(especially if they're little girls) they know that they deserve
to be raped and tortured because that's what their daddy's God/Rock
n Roller believed. I want to see how tough you guys are in the ER
while the nurses are readying a rape kit for your daughter. What a
stupid asshole. BTW GG fans, I'm personally going to slap the shit
out of all fast food workers around the country so watch out!

lesleemandoki (8 months ago) +1 Reply | Spam
hahahah this is so awkward... this doesn't sound a bit like the
poo-eating period of his, which he's most famous for

jdebruhl2 (6 months ago) 0 Reply | Spam
Why? Not giving a shit is much easier than caring about you and
others. He didnt give a shit because that was the image he was
trying to portray. Ive admired great writters. Inventors. Founding
fathers like Ben Franklin. Mark Twain. If you admire someone like
GG. You really come across as a insecure imbecile. Please...go read
a book.

heat4yoass (4 months ago) -2 Reply | Spam
LOL This is GG Allin?! I thought he was against corporate shit? Or
looking like the way MTV wants you to look or whatever. What a
fucking piece of shit hypocrite mother fucker.

most touching thing in the movie:

if you put merle & gg's moustaches together you get a full moustache. it's like the equivalent of a BFF 1/2 heart locket

I saw him in Chicago at Club Exit on Wells St. w/Squirrelbait and Volcano Suns. It must have been 1986. He didn't have a band with him, he just "sang" along with some taped music as accompaniment. He was first up in the line-up and was pretty bad. He shoved his mike up his butt.

That's probably the show I couldn't get to.

I did. Scary intense old school East Village anarcho-angry-junkie crowd. He punched some girl and she stood there with a smile on her face after he did it. I split.

Because you were obviously paralyzed with puritanical fear from the raw homosexuality in the air? (J/K Kevin ;)

Watched "Frat House." It was pretty lame. The Al Goldstein bio doc he produced was pretty great, though.

I missed the GG/Squirrel Bait/Volcano Suns show too, but I remember seeing the flyers lying by the front door at Wax Trax. Saw him perform a few years later in a small room upstairs at Medusa's. He had pissed on himself so much that his attempts to light his pubic hair on fire were doomed to failure.

Also, not a GG concert, but I think it counts: saw him sitting in the audience in the balcony at Cabaret Metro as part of a club full of people who paid to watch a bunch of classic rock and punk video footage, hosted by the Psychotronic guy. There was some Stooges footage (as I recall it was a segue from footage of Chuck Berry doing the song that "1970" copped a verse from), and as soon as Iggy hit the screen GG leaped out of his chair, screaming "Yeah!" in a paroxysm of joy and idol worship. In a lot of ways that was better than seeing GG perform.

How Many ILM Posters Ever Saw GG Allin Dead?

not me, but this was written by a guy who knows people i know. so i'm, uh, two degrees of separation from seeing gg allin dead. which is as close as i wanna be. (actually mike bowling just popped up a few weeks ago on a knoxville message board, posting from prague. we got in an argument about universal health care.)

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Several punk veterans collaborate to form extreme Punk Rock Elvis tribute.
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Formed in the summer 2006 by punk rock guitarist and Elvis Presley aficionado Tony Cortez (Ill Repute) and the dynamic lead guitarist and punk luminary Dave Cassillas (NOFX, Stalag 13 & Agression), G.G. Elvis and the T.C.P. Band actually began as the musical combo “Punk Rawk Elvis”. After several lineup changes, and some soul searching, Cortez enlisted the services of lead vocalist Eric Lara (Bad Samaritans), legendary punk beat-master Larry White (Agression, Stalag 13 & Dr. Know), bass-man George “Horhay” Snow (Bad Samaritans and Jughead’s Revenge), back up singer “Little Sister” Sara Jo Merin, and the formation of the T.C.P. (Taking Care of Punk) Band was complete.
After only three hasty rehearsals, G.G. Elvis and the T.C.P. Band made their live debut in Las Vegas at the infamous BYO Records sponsored Punk Rock Bowling Tournament, and the overly enthusiastic crowd was all shook the f*ck up! Since that fateful day, the band has played many-a-packed house and there ain’t no turnin’ back.
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Elvis Vicious aka Dave Casillas – lead guitar (NOFX / Stalag 13)
Elvis ’56 aka George “Horhay” Snow – bass (Bad Samaritans / Jughead’s Revenge)
Little Sister aka Sara Jo Merin - backing vocals

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I saw G.G numerous times and talked to him on phone quite abit...I was in Volcano Suns and he opened for us in chicago...he was awful of course...during soundcheck some girl was in the bathroom and he kicked the stall door open and yelled let me eat your tampon...he had heard we did drink fight and fuck so he and some buddy who were traveling together (they had bought greyhound bus passes to go wherever they wanted on tour) were standing at the foot of the stage as we went thru our set...G.G kept yelling drink fight and fuck...wanting to hop up on stage with us and sing...the more he yelled, the less we wanted to do the song of course...just to annoy the guy...so about half way thru the set he and his bro started chanting "Pussies"...all in all a great night and G.G. was very easy guy to wind up which we always enjoyed doing when there was an asshole around...

A few years later I set up a show in Boston where I and two of my friends were his backing band..."Vanilla Douche"...it took alot of smooth talking to even get the club to let us play...I remember being on the phone with him and telling him it was gonna be "G.G Allin and Vanilla Douche"...after a long pause he said "my god, that is a killer name"...he kept asking to come over to my house to rehearse and as my girlfriend at the time would not let him step into the house I gave him the setlist and told him to show up at soundcheck and we would just run thru it and it would be fine...all the songs took about 30 secs apeice to learn anyhow and as I had seen him perform along with a cassette tape, I figured we would be fine...in alot of odd ways he was a total pussycat and an easy guy to strongarm and push around...unfortunately, when we showed up for soundcheck, G.G. had gotten there a half hour before us and proceeded to break a bunch of chairs and then shit on the floor...this with only a bartender or two there...they cancelled the show and threw him out...never saw or heard from G.G. again.

:B

that's what I usually do when i show up half an hour before everyone else

from an interview w/ live skull in '89 where I asked about their encounter w/ GG

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/GG_live_skull_1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/GG_live_skull_2.jpg

His set was supposed to be backed by both Squirrel Bait and Volcano Suns guys, but his behavior during the soundcheck pretty much nixed that idea. I believe he took a shit during the soundcheck

immense irl lol