Come anticipate Fabio Capello's two years as England manager with me

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too ugly

blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

When he eventually is no longer a pundit

eh? what's to stop him continuing his punditry 'til he pops his clogs?

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

So Rio now has the most misshapen lips of any England captain ever, right?

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I love how everyone's pretending this is a big deal when we already knew full well Capello was planning on rotating the captaincy over the next few months?

Still, if it annoys John Terry it's good with me.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

[7. Instal Harry Redknapp as part time manager with Jamie Redknapp as assistant and Louise as half time totty cheerleader

8. go web2.0 with rateyourenglandplayers.com - Social media and user generated content is the future

9. instal systems thinking courses, there is more than 4-4-2 or 4-5-1]

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Moore in question is, of course, the late Robert, captain of England, winner of 108 caps, the World Cup, and the respect of every opponent down from the uniquely competitive Pele, who, after their soaring duel in Guadalajara in 1970, tore off his shirt and entered an embrace known only to the bravest and the best of warriors.

Also in the firing line, of course, is another Robert, Sir Bobby Charlton, who scored more goals than any other Englishman in international football, won the World Cup and was told that his 106th cap would be his last immediately after he had guided England into a winning position against West Germany in the 1970 World Cup quarter-final, only to be pulled off because, in the one great aberration of his brilliant career, Sir Alf Ramsey wanted to keep him fresh for the semi-final against Italy.

The trouble with Beckham's self-promotion and the sentimentality which has swept him to tonight's milestone here is that it appears to owe no debt to the reality of football history, the smidgeon of it his career represents and the mountainous scale of those of men like Moore and Charlton."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-a-mickey-mouse-milestone-to-cap-beckham-fantasia-800477.html

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 12:43 (sixteen years ago) link

wow: I turned on R5 and I think Platini was talking about respect for referees. and now - David Ginola, radio pundit!

kick-off at 8:00.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 19:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Ginola as pundit

will Alan Green show his notorious LFC sympathies?

I hope France score a few goals. But maybe 1-1 or so is more likely.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

GOAL for france

in case anyones interested

Ste, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I am. It is nice to hear of James giving away a penalty, then watching it go past him.

Subs: Terry, Gerrard, J Cole, Rooney all off!

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

poor Austria went 3-0 up against Holland but are now 4-3 down

plus, Russia whipped in Bucharest! Greece win in Portugal!

blueski, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

must be really annoying for Portugal even if it is only a friendly - still no revenge for two defeats four years ago

blueski, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm annoyed too, to hear that.

But not at England's result. Allez les bleus! Ginola was assez bon aussi.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

how can you prefer france to win over england? i say this as a man who bet on france to win 1-0 to soften the blow

blueski, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Spain deservedly beat Italy, game played out like a League Two relegation six-pointer where someone's gone into the Football Manager data editor and raised all the player's attributes by 50. Except Iaquinta, who on tonight's performance would probably be a great fit for Bury's sub's bench.

High points of the match numbered two: the Spaniards quite clearly having a sweepstake who could antagonise Camoranesi to the point of him getting sent off, and Grosso executing a perfect sweep kick on Alonso, suggesting that after his football career ends he could get down with some UFC.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Je les aime

the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm, poor game last night. I hadn't seen England play in a while, now I understand why you guys didn't make it to the Euro. England players seemed to play for the first time together.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 March 2008 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

... while France played at being Italy

baaderonixx, Thursday, 27 March 2008 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

England in not-worth-watching friendly shockah.

Attendance: 78,500. Do people never learn?

Upt0eleven, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:17 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Moore in question is, of course, the late Robert, captain of England, winner of 108 caps, the World Cup, and the respect of every opponent down from the uniquely competitive Pele, who, after their soaring duel in Guadalajara in 1970, tore off his shirt and entered an embrace known only to the bravest and the best of warriors.

Where's this from, BNP News? England are in trouble, cannae even beat France.

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Would BNP News be happy to hymn the greatness of Pele?

the pinefox, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:40 (sixteen years ago) link

The "unique competitiveness" of Pele you mean... what unique competitiveness?

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretty sure it's an impotence gag.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 10:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Question: Why does the English team underperform so much? Its not like you guys are lacking for talent so what's up?

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:19 (sixteen years ago) link

They're lacking in talent

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

the season's too long and there are too many competitions. Scrap the League Cup, reduce the size of the Premiership to 16 teams. Let the resultant time be taken up by the national team training together, esp in things we're weak at (eg penalty shoot outs). Job done.

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Plus they're lacking in talent.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

the season's too long and there are too many competitions. Scrap the League Cup, reduce the size of the Premiership to 16 teams. Let the resultant time be taken up by the national team training together, esp in things we're weak at (eg penalty shoot outs). Job done.

Haha this is mental.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Clubs also bigger and more important than the national side - tho I suppose that's probably true in many other countries

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link

all this soul-searching after a 1-0 friendly defeat?

blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, but losing to France, embarrassing or what?

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

the season's too long and there are too many competitions

Doesn't seem to bother all the very good players of other nationalities who play in England.

Scrap the League Cup

Hack the season apart just because the FA and the Premiership can't get their mutual act together and sort out proper coaching of, y'know, basic technique, with English players?

reduce the size of the Premiership to 16 teams

Even smaller pool of talent to choose from.

Job done.

Erm, no.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, but losing to France, embarrassing or what?

Why embarrassing? They've got a better record than England's.

Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link

(Hint, it's a Scot talking...)

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

thought it was stupid how Lineker was saying it's going to be MORE boring under Capello (compared to previous two managers). not possible.

blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Why doesn't Egnland have an equivalent to Clairefontaine?

Michael White, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Who is Clairfontaine?

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Or what, or whatever

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

they decided to spend all the money on new Wembley, i think, but it is supposed to be happening.

the other argument is that not enough English players develop as players abroad - but this didn't affect Italy or Germany much in the past.

blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link

French Youth Academy = better known as Arsenal FC

Tom D., Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

There are few things more satisfying than watching this self-important, humorless English side go down.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

it's a tough call but i do prefer watching a team i want to win

blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

There are few things more satisfying than watching this self-important, humorless English side go down.

-- Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:15 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Although I agree, the problem is that Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, and all your other "favourites" aren't actually affected on any level by England being shit.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

any *personal level

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i couldn't watch a game just on the basis that i wanted one of the teams to lose. i mean, what if they won? that would be awful!

blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

England teams needs a tragic-comic, alcoholic manchild like Gazza to bring the lulz.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i couldn't watch a game just on the basis that i wanted one of the teams to lose. i mean, what if they won? that would be awful!

-- blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:20 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

It's like wrestling, you don't mind watching the evil Commie win a few matches, as long as he gets his comeuppance in the end.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

or electing Boris so that we can watch him crash and burn a bendy bus

blueski, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link


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