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so amateurist going to see Matrix Revolutions would be as pointless for you as...posting on here that you're not interested?

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

i don't mind any of those things either but Reloaded was still hogwash

― jones (actual), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

Those things could work but we all know my own particular beef with the movies by now.

um, then I enjoy a fucking movie?

The MatriXXX.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

so amateurist going to see Matrix Revolutions would be as pointless for you as...posting on here that you're not interested?

yes and considerably more expensive

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

I already shamefully covered how hot I thought the rave scene was; I know it was awful, but it was still hot. :(

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

It was just too hippy for me.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

Fluke, the rave act for people who can't be arsed to go to raves. I guess.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

during Morpheus's speech and the subsequent rave scene i just told myself that 'it's cool, this probably really is how people would behave and react given the situation they're in and after all that's happened'. it happened during the Blitz too you know. down in the tube stations everyone was semi-naked and gurning like bastards to Fluke.

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

um, then I enjoy a fucking movie?
then I enjoy some other fucking movie! Like LXG! Ha! haHA!

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

if this one features a massive dance-off between humans and robots I might change my mind about the last one

― jones (actual), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:56 (twenty years ago) link

i can't help but think i will not enjoy this one as much as the last one (which i enjoyed more than the first one). as long as they do another Animatrix (surely this film isn't going to end with all the machines destroyed and everything back to how it once was?)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 3 November 2003 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

i just hope the sequel will feature more robots in jaunty hats & monocles, like the Animatrix did.

http://www.scanartcentral.net/wthumbs/rich_bot_bender.jpg

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

If the new one has robot zombies in it, I'll probably pay full price to see it.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

The VP of my division has roped us all into seeing this at 7am on wednesday! I'd love to be able to complain about this, but I'm really excited!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

well, that would have me excited too!

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

I do like the paranoia about web downloads. "We've GOT to show everything at the same exact time around the world or we won't make any money at all!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link

I want to be all excited by this but I never got round to seeing the first one and so don't know what's supposed to be happening.

But the second one had pretty fights! And stuff.

― cis (cis), Monday, 3 November 2003 18:35 (twenty years ago) link

here we go again

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:15 (twenty years ago) link

my buddy wanted to get like 20 people to dress up in the Smith look and converge on a movie theater.

then we told him to go first. We'd follow.

we'll see what happens.

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=84&e=8&u=/pagesix/matrixtricks

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

there are some slight spoilers in that link.

― teeny (teeny), Monday, 3 November 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

sorry to be so crabby upthread. i don't know what got into me. i hope everyone enjoys this film.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, well fuck you too man! ;-)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link

oh sorry, i mean, "fuck you all!"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

Aw sweet, we love you too, Am!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

I like that this movie seems to promise a lot more IRL/non-inside-the-Matrix action, and I think a lot of the best of the graphic design comes from dealing with the burnt-out-Earth rather than the dreamy-reality-stretching that goes on in the Matrix.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

you know I gotta say, I've been holding back, but I don't think the trailer for this movie can possibly make it look any worse. sorry matrix-lovers I'm not trying to be a dick but I thought the last movie was a complete fiasco and I can't imagine them salvaging this one.

xp: that's exactly what worries me about it nick!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 3 November 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

dick

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:49 (twenty years ago) link

just kidding s1utsky! are you gonna bother seeing it then? i actually rather liked the trailer. i'm a sucker for this stuff. i think the first one really can't be improved without fundamentally altering what it is (ie you could carp about some cheesy lines, but it's a sci fi hero story people), and the Matrix setting is intriguing enough that I'll happy sit through another couple hours there.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:51 (twenty years ago) link

I'll probably see it just to know... and for the (slim in my opinion) possibility that they may have re-found their footing.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:52 (twenty years ago) link

what do you think about the possibility that it's really the second half of one film? i think this might make it better. if you stopped the first one an hour and ten minutes in you'd be fucking confused...i sort of feel that way about reloaded.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder if this one will have Not Donald Sutherland in it, too.

ha ha! i think he (the Architect?) specifically told Neo that they wouldn't meet again, right? seemed like an odd and interesting thing to say.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:55 (twenty years ago) link

well... that doesn't really wash with me, as I don't really think reloaded could in any way be the first half of a good movie. whereas the first matrix movie, for its flaws, had a lot of neat ideas (mostly visual--the telephone stuff for example), reloaded was totally dry. the first movie had its rhythm problems but when it was on it was ON--I never thought reloaded ever hit anything nearing that stride! it was so hermetic and self-congratulatory and plodding!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 06:59 (twenty years ago) link

you've basically described my life so no wonder i'm right at home

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:16 (twenty years ago) link

i actually agree with everything you put there though. except the action sequences in reloaded totally weren't dry! i do think they lacked what propelled the action sequences the first one, which was the sequence of (learn something that raises a question) -> (fight ensues from question, we learn something) -> (implications of knowledge from fight pondered, raising questions) -> (fight scene ensues from question)...etc.

also, kung fu.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:18 (twenty years ago) link

jeez that made no sense.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:19 (twenty years ago) link

no, I know what you mean, the reason I didn't really enjoy the (few) action sequences in reloaded was that there was nothing really at stake! neo's invincible, and I had no idea what was going on anyway

I still insist the multiple-smith thing looked way worse than anything in the first movie

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:24 (twenty years ago) link

neo's invincible
This was precisely my problem with the Neo action scenes in Reloaded. We know he can't die. Ergo, you must UTTERLY knock my socks off with what he can do for me to stay awake. This occasionally happened but not enough. But action bits with other characters = much better, as such the freeway scene did kick ass.

I agree on the effects thing; nothing in the first one looked bad at all! CG people are still not quite there. So I got more of a thrill from the sequences where actual people are doing the work more than the CG gang bang.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:29 (twenty years ago) link

yeah I must admit the most excited I got was during the freeway sequence, when other, actually vulnerable characters were involved

what was up with that whole bomb in the building thing at the end there though? what the hell was that all about? anyone have any idea?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:33 (twenty years ago) link

Scripts marked "FILM" and "VIDEO GAME" got swapped by accident, I think

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:34 (twenty years ago) link

and can we pretend that the guy who played the architect's real name is ronald sutherland?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 07:35 (twenty years ago) link

what was up with that whole bomb in the building thing at the end there though? what the hell was that all about? anyone have any idea?

this was a security system to protect the source of the Matrix from being accessed by The One. But Neo is able to access it after they manage to shut the power down for just long enough (with Trinity, Niobi and co. providing enough distraction). Presumably the Architect figured Neo would be able to access the source anyway so set up the meeting to tell him what was going to happen.

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 10:21 (twenty years ago) link

people who say the graphix in the fight scene with all the Smiths look too computer-ey -- the whole thing is taking place inside a computer program, remember??

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

I think the reason most people disliked Reloaded was because they are pissed off that they didn't understand everything in one viewing. I don't think you're supposed to/able to, though. I saw it a few times in the theater and own the DVD, and I'm still finding new details in the plot that I missed the first time.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

I was annoyed that it turned completely into an action flick. And the highway scene was impressive, but went on forever.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:12 (twenty years ago) link

i am hoping it's the longest of the three

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

Sean i was annoyed at Kill Bill for the same reason

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

KB also had the whole "hm that's not quite a movie, is it?" feeling afterwards.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

No, its the first half of one.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

The difference is I walked into KB *expecting* non-stop action/violence, whereas I was hoping for a bit more from Reloaded.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

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