The sound of 300 pounds of lard banging against the wall...

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Nah, not asking if yer fat because I read above that yer not. Just wondering why the level of anger over it all. I'm just saying is that I really don't want to be fat - not while I'm in my 20s anyway - and I find fat people a bit horrible on the eye. It's like saying that bald or spotty people make you sick, it's a bit snide but fair enough. I bet there's already another thread on this 'do appearances matter' schtick so if someone can give a link then I can see how y'all think. I'm fair surprised at the animosity over this, maybe it's because I'm drunk and not thinking about what I'm posting. Anyhow I'm off to sleep.

Ian SPACK (Ian SPACK), Friday, 15 November 2002 01:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

*exeunt secretly spotty bald fat SPACK, to land of self-pitying nightmares*

haha so jess we doing this calvin klein shoot tomorrow or what?

jones (actual), Friday, 15 November 2002 01:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, ian, the animosity stems from the fact that the hate directed towards the fat goes well beyond that spewed at the bald or the spotty. my girlfriend was harassed at the mall this past spring because she was wearing a tank top which didn't suit the notion of what three or four teenage assholes felt that a "fat girl" should be wearing. now, i doubt that anyone who's ever experienced this would claim that it's as widespread or possibly even as noxious as harassment slung for being black or gay or a woman or handicapped or... but the underlying assumption in all circumstances is that these people should not exist. try living in a world where people make this assumption about you, even infrequently, and see how much it niggles under yr skin like so many bamboo shoots.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 02:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

(go jess. if any moderator cares to delete my dumb interruption please do so)

jones (actual), Friday, 15 November 2002 02:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

no one here fucking hates fat people, sheesh.

Aaron A., Friday, 15 November 2002 02:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

"The sound of 300 pounds of lard banging against the wall..."
"I can hear Fattie screaming. And I can hear him slapping against her flesh. It's the worst sound I've ever heard. It's unbelievably revolting."
"his awful girlfriend"
"USE NAPALM. I love the smell of burning fat in the morning."
"Can I just say that I don't mind the ridicule of obesity"
"Fat people are gross. The thought of fat people screwing is even grosser."
"I find fat people a bit horrible on the eye"

So despises is a better word, Aaron? Perhaps loathes?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 November 2002 02:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

gah.

jess and alex are the only ones talking sense on this entire thread.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 15 November 2002 03:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Only Spack has made the hateful, ad hominem attacks. And some of the lines you quote are clearly ironic or sarcastic.

Visually/aesthetically obesity can be unattractive. It's wrong (or presumptuous) to blame the fat person for being fat, however, and then to hold it against him. But if I note an attitude of carelessness on that person's part with regard to the weight problem, I will find it unbecoming in the same way I find a person's abuse of drugs unbecoming. Lazy, reckless, indulgent behavior. But ultimately just a character flaw like any other, not some sort of damanble offense.


Aaron A., Friday, 15 November 2002 03:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's a much less unappealling character flaw than exhibiting general nastiness and insensitivity, Aaron. Finding someone unattractive is A LOT fucking different from mocking them and making it clear that you find them to be disgusting. Also I don't think any of the lines I quoted were ironic or sarcastic (although the napalm is probably not completely at face value, it doesn't seem as though s/he is joking about finding fat people revolting.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 November 2002 03:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey you know some people are born with real actual fucking disabilities that they have to live with

bob zemko (bob), Friday, 15 November 2002 04:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

you mean like being british?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 04:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

see ya, credibility

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 15 November 2002 04:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh, like i'm really worried about looking credible in the eyes of the nay sayers on THIS fucking thread...

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 04:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey you know "Heart of Darkness" was written by Joseph Conrad

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 15 November 2002 04:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

fair point the kids

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 15 November 2002 04:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Johnny Sack to thread

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 15 November 2002 06:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Not to defend the riducle of fat people per se here, but consider two things: hearing people have sex is irritating, hearing people have sex and thus imagining this going on when you find one of these people gross looking is another -- i.e. if his roommate were dating some slim supermodel hearing her have sex wouldn't call to mind the same images, and thus might not be as much of an issue.

Second: He hears the slapping which I assume is caused by the sex act itself and not ass-slapping over the course of this. But in either case this slapping noise would be louder with a heavier person, again adding to the annoyance factor.

In other words, I don't think we should just be like "fuck fucking fatties dumb fat fucks" (/cartman) but y'know there was actually some relevance to this information.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 15 November 2002 06:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't know if it's been scientifically tested but the loudness-of-slapping thing sounds like nonsense.

Making too much noise doing anything in shared accomodation *is* rude if it's in the middle of the night - sex is no exception. I think there's an added thrill of faux-illicitness in trying to keep it quiet, anyway, but my tastes don't run to "FUCK YOU MCFLY!"

I'm with Jess and Alex on the fat thing, generally. Anti-fat prejudice does not however equate to the holocaust - I wish people would think before posting stuff like that cos it's waving a big sign around saying "HEY EVERYONE DONT TAKE ME SERIOUSLY!". Mind you that's what Ian, Aaron etc. have been doing too, so fair's fair.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 09:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

fat bottom girls make this rockist world go round

Queen G (Queeng), Friday, 15 November 2002 14:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jess - so what if you're fat and British? Is that worth poking fun at?

MTJ, Friday, 15 November 2002 14:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Draw a poster of a big fat slapper getting porked noisily by a little no-mates.
Pin it up by the cinnamom/marshmallows.

widgeon Holland, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hold on. What's being British got to do with all this? Firstly we have very serene quiet sex, secondly we don't do 'marshmallows and cinamon', thirdly if we were having sex next door to this gentleman we'd knock and invite him in if he promised to hold up her stomach whilst we tucked into some prime beef curtains...

Thin White Duke, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

marcello, the point of "taking a break" is not to come back and do exactly what drove you over the edge in the first place.

can i just say that i really feel bad for yancey having to now be associated with what this turned into?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

This thread has it all. Fat jokes AND fat sanctimony! Hysterical.

fatrocks, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

you mean like being british?

hehehe! good answer!

poor old yancey, bet he wishes he'd never started this thread! fwiw, i think they're being pretty thoughtless, shared accomodation is a difficult one. i have been very lucky in that i have lived with considerate people (even the spiritualist one in arsenal was considerate), and never had any kind of problem, certainly nothing along these lines. in these circumstances i would be looking to move out. not specifically because of this, but you don't get on with the guy anyway, so i'd want to go and live with people i might actually converse with, and stuff

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone tell me what exactly constitutes a 'superfluous' ear? I have two and they are both very necessary, thanks. Moving on, are you aware how ludicrous you sound, fighting for the right of the fat to be fat? Why is it a political issue for you morons, screaming about tolerance and then bringing up the holocaust (I hope that was tongue in cheek, otherwise you are one skewed individual)? I am not slim myself but you lot of cretinous crusaders make me die, you really do. I bet you hate smokers too. Muppets. Christ almighty, don't you have better things to get upset about? Rant over. Yancey, stick to your guns. I liked the drawing idea posted above to be left near the cinnamon. Use it. ta ta for now.

he's big, he's round, he bounces on the ground...., Friday, 15 November 2002 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is it time to lock this yet?

Graham (graham), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can hear them talking. "Should we put cinnamon or marshmallows on that?" he asks. "Both!" she exclaims. WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY MAKING???

"Thanksgiving is just around the corner and the meal at my house
is never complete without this casserole on the table. Everyone
loves this dish, even those who won't touch regular old sweet
potatoes. Try it for yourself and see!

Ingredients:

3 cups mashed sweet potatoes
1 cup white sugar
1/2 cup butter, melted
2 eggs, beaten
1/2 cup milk
1 tsp vanilla
1/2 tsp salt
1/2 tsp nutmeg
1/2 tsp cinnamon

Topping:
combine: 1 cup brown sugar
1/2 stick butter
1/3 cup flour
1/2 to 1 cup chopped pecans
1 cup miniature marshmellows


Directions:

Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.

Boil the potatoes whole until tender. Remove and let cool
completely.

After the potatoes are cooled, put them in a large bowl and
mash them as you would regular potatoes.

Add the rest of the ingredients.

Pour into a large buttered baking dish.

Cover the potatoes with the topping of your choice.

Bake at 350 degrees for 35 minutes."

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

OMG I LOVE SWEET POTATOS!

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

face it, it could be far worse. The big old chugga could be necking your food as well as theirs. I wonder if he's ever drawn a cartoon of her...?

Thin White Duke, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oi! What makes you think calling someone a muppet is valid? That Jim Henson was a genius. Cue a Miss Piggy gag...

Thin White Duke, Friday, 15 November 2002 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like Interpol

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 15 November 2002 15:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oooooo, someone made a weightist remark! So fucking what? Get off your high horses, get a life and stop bitching you fat American bastards.
Incidentally I think it must be a bitch living with him, but you really should just go talk to the guy.

Johny, Friday, 15 November 2002 16:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's political incorrectness gone mad!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi everybody!

Last night I wasn't home very much, so I didn't hear anything. They were microwaving peach cobbler though.

As for everyone getting so pissy with me... Jesus. I really have no idea what to say. Obviously I annoyed some with those bits and some people then blew them completely the fuck out of proportion. Those of you who chastised me in a civil way, I apologize. The rest of you assholes bitching at me, Go fuck yourselves. And I mean that in a very endearing way.

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

yancey- talk to him/her (isn't communication the solution to the world's problems).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

60% of Americans are obese. No wonder they're defensive about it.

sorry, Friday, 15 November 2002 16:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

We're raised on fat and sugar. We can't help it!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

And sweet potato casserole!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is political incorrectness?

Aaron A., Friday, 15 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

you freeks

Timmy (timchat), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I mean, do none of you have jobs?

Timmy (timchat), Friday, 15 November 2002 16:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are all the Fatty apologists a tad on the tubby side.

I suggest entering the kitchen slapping 2 pork chops together and screaming like a porn starlet whilst they are cooking. Just to raise the subject

Fat English Bloke, Friday, 15 November 2002 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

To raise a practical suggestion...
You should subversively audio record the couple in their throes. Then, release the choice bits as a CD, a la Shut Up, Little Man. "F-ck you, McFly!" is GOLD. GOLD, I tell you. Then, you'll start looking forward to their coital outbursts.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

graham, to answer your question: now it is.

(this is not to say that ernest's isn't a good suggestion. just that a thread is usually over by the time of the sub-carlin anonymous dicking about.)

(and i feel bad for yancey.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

The anonymous people aren't regulars - check the log for the horrid truth.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Don't cry for me, ILE!

Yeah, it sucks how this blew up. Oh well.

Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, it's not like you can yell 'get a room' 'cos they've got one. You have to tell them their noise is getting on your nerves; bitching about them behind their (beast with two) backs is just making you angrier, so go and tell them. Loud shaggers in shared accomodation should try to be more considerate. They may well have zero clue they're annoying you.

As to fattism generally, I know there are anti-fattist pressure groups and everything - we *do* appraise based on appearance and that should be combatted whenever possible but STILL, 1am fridge raids are gross (mitigating factor: stoned people DO get the munchies). If the woman really does tip the scales at 300lbs I'd be worried about her health.

Jess, try not to be so touchy about what mall rats say to your girlfriend; I know you love her and karma rewards these people generally.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

linked by a regular though, tom

gareth (gareth), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

whoops, my bad tom. christ, that IS depressing then, innit?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 November 2002 17:33 (twenty-one years ago) link


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