brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

it me

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Brosa Luxemburg to thread, please!

all kicking off in the tory party 😂😂😂😂

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Philip Hammond has declared that public-sector workers are “overpaid" as a bitter cabinet war erupted over austerity https://t.co/vMKPAiSkg8 pic.twitter.com/m4oiOKa5xV

— The Sunday Times (@thesundaytimes) July 16, 2017

Are mps public sector workers?

jesus, when Hammond was a quieter minister you just didn't get to see what a complete .. erm, organ that he is. I know it is a simple case of Tory revealed as complete arsehole shocker, but jeez, cartoon bird really has profound depths of shitiness, that you might have thought he was to dull to possess.

I was zoning out during his Marr interview, but at one point he hand-waved away the sexism charges by reminding us he has two "high-achieving daughters".

Do you think Gove has essentially been given free reign to leak this stuff about Hammond now? Because that's definitely what's happening. Obviously the endgame is to replace him with a Brexit Chancellor but he can't last long under current circumstances. Then again nor can anyone.

it all seems quite desperate, even a having a Brexit chancellor isn't going to get that bill through parliament. I think Gove is trying hard to resurrect his political career after appearing on tv with the dead-eyed husk that is Ed Balls, recently. Fear of becoming like Ed Balls is the driving motivation/private dread for all politicians these days imo.

stephen bush is a national treasure and dan hodges is definitely not now a shrivelled corn

A tip: if you approached life with an intent to learn instead of to reply "False dichotomy. Yes or no." you'd be worthwhile.

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) July 16, 2017

Poor Glenda Jackson.

I blame the parents.

John McDonnell's "social murder" feels really important. Isn't it great they've amped it up when needed to?

The only answer to this is yes, yes it is.

Yes and after people like Nick Robinson repeatedly trying to dismiss this line, some people are agreeing and linking it correctly with Engels use of the same term. It needs amping up because apparently there is a phenomena known as "compassion fatigue" x0==

ugh.

*central committee: me, julio, NRQ and dom p4ss4ntino rip**
**gulag now: julio, NRQ and dom p4ss4ntino rip

― mark s, Saturday, 15 July 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOL what's this mark you are not a gulag fan? wtf!

How have I never seen this? Dan Hannan goes on imagined walk in Hampshire. Tweets stock pics of Wales. Is he mad? https://t.co/3vgg1DS2ii pic.twitter.com/vDV5G1t4QV

— Tom Peck (@tompeck) July 17, 2017

I was just having a good laugh at that, this follow-up is good too

Andrew Lilico's defence of Dan Hannan's pretend walk is as good as the real thing. pic.twitter.com/6ngRoEpCGW

— Rick Burin (@rickburin) July 17, 2017

lol! No point in MPs complaining about online abuse and then begging to have the piss ripped out of them!

@DanielJHannan 17 hours ago
Communism killed 100 million people. And we're putting up a statue of Engels.

"Homer 10, Terrorists...8!"

lying is good not bad!
*five seconds later*
we regret to inform you the matrix is now essential viewing

DD with that 'actively against a deal' approach once again.

Michel Barnier sits down with David Davis with huge wodge of notes. Davis - with nothing - https://t.co/1eLT5nXRfU pic.twitter.com/3AVIrXSkyX

— AndrewSparrow (@AndrewSparrow) July 17, 2017

lol

Picture sums it up: tables groaning with weight of pointless EU paperwork when just basic facts are needed. Symbolises what we won't miss. pic.twitter.com/XkJdJuhyKP

— Fraser Nelson (@FraserNelson) July 17, 2017

The face on your man at the back.

the face on your woman at the front

So David Davies held less than hour of talks before having to return to Westminster to vote on a Labour amendment about the amount of time allotted to backbenchers' legislation.

I can see the relevance of that but I doubt there is a single person in Parliament who genuinely believes that is more important, but it suggests that substantive Brexit negotiations are going to be severely hampered by having to prevent an embarrassing defeat on every piddling issue.

I can't think of many things more likely to enrage absolutely every point on the political spectrum.

Picture sums it up: taaaaybles grooning with pointlezz EU paperwoork when just bezzic vacts are need. Symbolises what we woon't mizz. pic.twitter.com/XkJdJuhyKP
— Fraser Nelson (@FraserNelson) July 17, 2017

... fixed

Fraser Nelson's claim (in the tweet that presumably replaces the one above that's gone now) is that this was only supposed to be an opening half-hour, shake hands for the photo-op. So the EU side bringing bulging folders is not cricket. Which just means that they're prepared and they know how to play an image - this'll go well.

These dickholes seem to think incompetence is somehow charming.

competence is for those dastardly pointy-heads in brussels, good old fashioned british pluck is all we need to get what we want #twoworldwarsandoneworldcup

little off-topic but the telegraph's dunkirk review has some stirring stuff along these lines

heart-hammering and heroically British, this is Christopher Nolan at the peak of his powers

But the questions it poses, about the actual substance and significance of the British ‘Dunkirk spirit’, both then and now, are asked in a spirit of total seriousness.

And Dunkirk is every inch a British film, with no detectable concessions to the international market.

Post brexit we need a cultural boycott of all world cinema apart from Nolan, Danny Boyle, Winterbottom, Britto Goebbels, Goebell McBritterson etc..

The fuck is a British film......snatch?

https://resizing.flixster.com/vQbMdxNZAs_K2iVZFFYMpRtAkpw=/206x305/v1.bTsxMjM1ODM2NztqOzE3NDIzOzEyMDA7NjM5Ozk0Ng
this is what I'm talking about!

Irony being that Brexit will leave us all stranded with no hope of rescue. Perhaps that's how Dunkirk should be read?

The fuck is a British film......snatch?

sex lives of the potato men obv

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the comments section of that telegraph article is beyond parody

Graham Watson 18 Jul 2017 3:10AM

I think that if this event happened in 2017, there would be a lot of white flags to be seen on the beach.

Britain is now occupied by people who couldn't care less.

A different breed of people in perhaps less than 2 generations.

Charles Lee 18 Jul 2017 7:13AM

@Graham Watson

Not at all true.

The Referendum result of June 23rd 2016 was Britain's finest peacetime hour.

In the face of the relentlessly dire propaganda of Project Fear, Britain voted for Democracy and Freedom.

Now, of course, the cowardly creatures of Remain are trying to nullify that moment of national courage.

Britain is now occupied by Telegraph readers who would be all for a Nazi government

why should we send our boats to Dunkirk? if these people love Europe so much they can stay there

Of course current day equivalents of the rescue fleet are all Brexit voting fishermen with a sideline in smuggling illegal immigrants.

Christopher Nogood at the peak of his powers is a pretty low peak

Nogood terrible rotten writer

again with this nonsense

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/18/labour-mps-urge-party-to-do-more-to-appeal-to-the-english

“They are strongly patriotic, believe in community and contribution and, like it or not, were much more likely to vote leave,” Denham added. “We won’t win their support by simply waving St George crosses but by respecting who they are and showing we understand their fears and concerns.”

He claimed that some party activists worried that engaging with Englishness meant making concessions to racism and xenophobia, adding: “It doesn’t, and we’ll help show how.”

most depressing thing is that some people on the left of the party apparently buy into this stuff:

The group crosses Labour’s political spectrum and its structures with the founding members including Sam Tarry – who was co-director of Jeremy Corbyn’s re-election campaign

Sam Tarry of the TSSA is involved as well

Those who have resisted England’s voice often claim they are defending the union. But resentment at the perceived unfairness of the UK’s financial and political settlement is adding to the pressures that may lead to the union’s break up. Labour is committed to a constitutional convention in which federal options for the UK will be considered. The third challenge will be to make sure that England has a clear voice in those discussions.

the idea that encouraging English nationalism as a political force will help preserve the union seems crazy, like, this seems designed to encourage resentment and hostility to Westminster in Scotland? the SNP would love this, surely?

Ruth Davidson certainly won't like it.

With the dust settled are there any particularly good pieces on the relative Tory surge in Scotland? Still can't quite get my head around it.

Denham frames this as an English equivalent to patriotism as a political force in Scotland and Wales, but never acknowledges that in Scotland and Wales this works because there is something to push against, i.e. Westminster and the idea that Scots and Welsh are getting a poor deal at the the expense of England. Who would his progressive English patriotism be pushing against? presumably -

1. Scotland + Wales (so all this stuff about 'defending the union' is hogwash)
2. the EU (this seems perfectly designed to enable some stab-in-the back myth, so that when brexit inevitably turns out to be a disaster the blame is placed on the perfidious EU and traitorous, unpatriotic europhiles in this country, rather than with the tories where it belongs)
3. immigrants, and people who are seen as insufficiently "English" regardless of where they were born due to their race/religion etc

By the way, have none of these people noticed that the Labour Party now behind the Tories in Scotland?