Angry White Industrial Funk

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Yeah, Pop Group. And Gang of Four

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

Consolidated?

how's life, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

yes to all of these

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

how much does this overlap with gay fascist muscle disco

korla pundit (crüt), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

this is a definite cross-over with angry white guys and gfmd Cubanate - Oxyacetalene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utAzwzXVRU

André Ryu (Neil S), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msBBmLfnUwg

korla pundit (crüt), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

crut, that Venn diagram is dangerously close to being a perfect circle; basically my only limiting factor is "can I credibly imagine Hall & Oates doing a version of this song?"

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

23 Skidoo - Coup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQADXqHKmEQ

André Ryu (Neil S), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

not so much angry as horribly sleazy, Leather Nun - FFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2A8icT7PI

André Ryu (Neil S), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

I just dragged this cassette out the other day. It doesn't all fit your description, but I'm guessing some of it does.

http://e.snmc.io/lk/f/l/b5cb2e6101a8835118da269fbf50fa3b/2518333.jpg

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Clock DVA "Sound Mirror" is pretty funky but maybe not angry enough

korla pundit (crüt), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

hahahaha Dan, that might actually be the album I was trying to remember when I made this thread

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Skinny Puppy. Their profile didn't make it's out of the 80s as well as other acts already mentioned.

World Domination Enterprises, same.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 14 July 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Pankow?

sleeve, Friday, 14 July 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

I highly recommend this album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6UMXrLVz1w

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 14 July 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

I'm gonna playlist the shit out of this thread

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

à;GRUMH...
Revolting Cocks
Borghesia
Ministry
Absolute Body Control
The Klinik
Test Dept.
Vomito Negro
Nag Nag Nag by Cabaret Voltaire

stirmonster, Friday, 14 July 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link

I would cut off Ministry before LORAH; at that point, they start turning into something decidedly unfunky

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

OTOH, "The Angel" fits perfectly into the picture I had in my head when I started this thread

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

yup, should have clarified nothing after LORAH. and nothing before Twitch, I guess. :-)

stirmonster, Friday, 14 July 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

Portion Control!

sleeve, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

yup, should have clarified nothing after LORAH. and nothing before Twitch, I guess. :-)

lol

I'd include "Cold Life", though!

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

"cold life", much as i love it is more disinterested in life white industrial funk, no?

stirmonster, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

Fair.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

apathetic white industrial funk.

stirmonster, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

apathetic white industrial funk.

would buy this compilation

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

Lots of discovery-in-college flashbacks in thread here.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

See they've been mentioned, but this is like a perfectly apt description of Revolting Cocks.

circa1916, Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

as soon as i saw thread title :

- i knew that DJP was involved.
- and stirmonster was all over it.

extra additions : CHAKK (pre MCA 12" singles), Hula, Gruesome Twosome, Acid Horse

mark e, Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

(also : still my fave music genre ..)

mark e, Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

the weathermen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxAfcXwqCE4

mark e, Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

Slab!
Twelve 88 Cartel
Foreheads In a Fish Tank

There was shitloads of this grimy crap around in the UK back in the 80s.

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

Not too sure how angry (or white) this is, but what the hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWOvVuZ6HuQ

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 15 July 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Was thinking about Slab! I don't recall them as being quite angry or funky enough to fit, more booming and deadpan. Must revisit.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Saturday, 15 July 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

Would Wolfgang Press's still amazing Bird Wood Cage qualify?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypsvpxaaXTs

полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Sunday, 16 July 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

This Heat

29 facepalms, Sunday, 16 July 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

At my college station in the 80s there was a gag about filing these records in a Belgian Disco section, regardless of origin.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

Belgian New Beat is a close cousin of this stuff, of course

André Ryu (Neil S), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

Really wish more of this was remotely funky.

полезные дурак (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

D.A.F.

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

Does this count or are they so angry they throttled the funk II death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVoRtE_QdI8

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 July 2017 07:34 (six years ago) link

Quite a lot of the music released on On U Sound in the 80s would fall under this heading

paolo, Sunday, 23 July 2017 10:28 (six years ago) link

I'm not an On U expert (I've only got a few compilations) but Sherwood At The Controls vol 2 and Science Fiction Dancehall Classics have a bunch of good examples of this sound

paolo, Sunday, 23 July 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

I feel like Sherwood is really a nexus for a lot of this stuff. He produced Twitch and parts of Pretty Hate Machine, his Depeche Mode remixes were really influential, and apparently a lot of the classic drum sounds came off his Fairlight.

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Monday, 24 July 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

what sleeve said! hugely underrated AWIF band!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MftK-knjkAs

Hula also. The mellow side of this look was this timeless (lol or very dated) jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfZ4Ey5mNzU

Front 242 are awesome live. I saw them at Primavera last month and they certainly know how to put on a show

paolo, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

i keep thinking of "seconds to late" by cabaret voltaire

brimstead, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

i saw F242 during their prime era, and it was insanely good.
the breakdown to the loud vocal declaration of 'no sex until marriage' was insane.
back to the thread : i realise they are not loved by many here, but some of the early CHAKK 12" releases were totally in this groove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqFl3QhaIsY

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

I feel like Sherwood is really a nexus for a lot of this stuff. He produced Twitch and parts of Pretty Hate Machine, his Depeche Mode remixes were really influential, and apparently a lot of the classic drum sounds came off his Fairlight.

perhaps the epitome of AMS vs this groove :

https://www.discogs.com/Flux-Of-Pink-Indians-Uncarved-Block/release/2860481

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

^^^ yes

OTM, can't say enough good things about that album

not really AWIF though

sleeve, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

not really AWIF though

!!!

blimey.
its very angry politically, and very funky.

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

ok, maybe not industrial per se.

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

Tribal industrial rite? Uncarved Block fans oughta check out last decade's debut by Von Spar if they haven't already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcvRICd0QMU

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

bet i never find that in my local hmv/fopp.

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

not very white or industrial, though

(note: this is one of my favorite records of all time)

sleeve, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

There's a refrain on Uncarved Block of "I don't feel angry anymore", though I don't know if I buy the sentiment!

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

ha, agreed

sleeve, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

ok ... to get the thread back on track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbwhhQei3gU

very angry, very political, very white.
as stirmonster has already mentioned, but here is an example.

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

oh my god, this Von Spar track

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

gosh. that von spar is way, way better than i remember it being. must dig that out. also, uncarved block rules, forever.

stirmonster, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

I would like to thank everyone who has participated in this thread from the bottom of my heart. This style of music is near and dear to my heart, possibly as close to a "default" musical style for me as it's possible for me to have, and I love that others are into it as well and throwing out names I've either meant to get up on but never got around to or have never heard before. The names I know well are all welcome reminders for things I've neglected, in some cases for close to 20 years (that's the last time I remember listening to Test Dept). Thanks for indulging my nostalgia fit and spurring me to explore some stuff.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

I don't like everything on this list of new EBM albums, but the first two are great, especially Multiple Man.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

I keep going "Oh yeah, Test Department too!" with each name check. I listened to this stuff way more than I realized. Though I've really enjoyed the Sherwood comps from the last few years, which introduce still more acts I wasn't familiar with.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

I agree Sherwood is a nexus point here; discovering him in high school was a crystallizing moment for my musical tastes.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link

And yet there's still no CD compilation of all the early Tackhead and Gary Clail 12" singles (the full versions, not the edits on Tackhead Tape Time)...

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

ahh, that's the best hug i have had all year, even if it is virtual.

now, just where are those KMFM vs On-U remixes ...

(answer : UAIOE = their hard edged On-U based album)

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:08 (six years ago) link

And yet there's still no CD compilation of all the early Tackhead and Gary Clail 12" singles (the full versions, not the edits on Tackhead Tape Time)...

you need to get the TACK>>HEAD POWER INC compilations volumes 1-3.

not got all of the 12" you are after, but the best option availalble.

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

thank u djp for blowing our minds with that von spar track. extraordinary.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

happy to have contributed.

i used to love those KMFDM sherwood records big time but now find my ears feel those have dated the worst out of nearly all sherwood's work. the pankow ones still sound good.

did anyone mention Pankow yet btw?

stirmonster, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

coming at this from another angle you could definitely make a case for the inclusion of certain big black songs - kerosene most obviously, but also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABmNjnNR9aM

plp will eat itself (NickB), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

i used to love those KMFDM sherwood records big time but now find my ears feel those have dated the worst out of nearly all sherwood's work.

only got the cd edition of the album a couple of years ago, and rarely listen, so not burnt out.
but yeah, KMFDM vs Cheese is a problem i always suffer from whenever i drop them on the playlist.

mark e, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

i did dig out this super stoopid non sherwood KMFDM track recently and enjoyed it lots though - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Lm4XQczY4

definitely high on the cod funk scale.

stirmonster, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link

weirdo text formatting going on there!

stirmonster, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

I've come to the conclusion that Don't Blow Your Top is KMFDM's perfect moment, although I hadn't heard "Zip" before and it's low-key glorious.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

Hula also. The mellow side of this look was this timeless (lol or very dated) jam
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:11 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-FEvgQTgbU

Didn't know Graham Lewis had his own weird-ass synth pop project. He is one intense guy. Cool art direction for the video!

carpet_kaiser, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

I thought it had a better hit/miss ratio than Colin Newman's solo work, when I discovered it in the early 90s, but I favored Lewis Wire over Newman Wire (and Lennon over McCartney). With all the ex-Wire solo/duo material, I think some QC would have improved the consumer experience.

Are you Eating It...or is It Eating You? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

there's some of that angry white funk in this - https://soundcloud.com/thequietus/jd-twitchs-30-year-mix

stirmonster, Thursday, 27 July 2017 23:06 (six years ago) link

opened up for these dudes the other day. made me think of this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pApya93Unh4

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 27 July 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link

in '85 my girlfriend and I drove into LA to try to get into the Test Department show at Club Lingerie, which was 21+; I was 17, she was 19. we didn't get in, so we walked around H'wood smoking cigarettes. I sometimes wonder: if you'd seen that show, on that night, how heavily might it have impacted your taste? because I bet it was fuckin slammin


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