Lana Del Rey

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more more to the point ASAP Rocky is the Boba Fett of Lana Del Ray, I can't imagine I'll be the last to say it

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 July 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link

It sort of breaks the spell for me, the best thing about LDR for me is this sort of modern, yet out of time California world she inhabits, a simulacrum of imaginary L.A., bringing in guest stars like this sort of takes me out of the movie, so to speak

Agree with this 10,000%. Really not happy about all the guests on this record.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 14 July 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

yeah, I agree too. would be happy to be proven wrong.

akm, Friday, 14 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

shakedown OTM

Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

So, the album is great. The second half in particular is very strong. Get Free is one hell of a closer.

kitchen person, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link

ooooh

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

Can't wait to hear it

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8tIaO48lXc

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:29 (six years ago) link

yeah, really into this album. The trap influence is so understated, it almost feels like trap collided with trip-hop - which is great. The ASAP/Carti collabs do absolutely nothing for me, least favourite things she's been attached to. Not opposed to artists evolving, but shakedown articulated the spell breaking perfectly above.

"I'm smokin' while I'm runnin'" is a lyric I feel like I've been waiting to hear forever

Feels like the perfect midway point between Born to Die and her later era material. Think I'm just a stan at this point

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

the Nicks and Lennon collabs are definitely standouts. This is on track to being ridiculously back-loaded.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 21 July 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link

Nicks and del Rey sound terrific together.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 July 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

This is definitely a Honeymoon situation again where I'll make a shorter edit and only ever listen to that

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 21 July 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

As I expected, the tracks with guests are the weakest (except for the two with A$AP Rocky). The Lennon song in particular is one of the worst things she's ever done. But holy shit, "Get Free."

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 21 July 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

the Nicks and Lennon collabs are definitely standouts. This is on track to being ridiculously back-loaded.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

Coachella to Get Free is a brilliant run of songs.

kitchen person, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

I still don't like "Coachella" and I'm not that wild about "God Bless America" just yet either

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 21 July 2017 14:24 (six years ago) link

I don't like Coachella or God Bless America either!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 July 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

God Bless America was an instant highlight for me. I didn't really like Coachella when she put it out last month as it seemed a bit clumsy, but I'm really enjoying it on the album.

kitchen person, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

love to listen to trip trap in my flip flops

mh, Friday, 21 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

"Get Free" is a reminding me a lot of Radiohead's Creep

silverfish, Friday, 21 July 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

i thought the same

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

The track with Sean Lennon is my favorite one in here on first listen.

I would've preferred Get Free to be a major lazer cover instead of a creep ripoff.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 21 July 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

I would be interested to see the results of a poll for best Lana album

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

this is really good

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link

part of LDR's thing has always been a love letter to the history of rock n' roll, this album especially so. i've noticed nods to iggy (obv), radiohead, motley crue, neil young, simon & garfunkel, and more that i've probably forgotten

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

call me naive but I honestly don't think the Radiohead thing is intentional. they didn't invent that chord progression.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

yeah def. a ton of references here!

also Beach Boys "Don't Worry Baby" (Love), The Angel's "My Boyfriend's Back" (Lust for Life)

Week of Wonders (Ross), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:53 (six years ago) link

I would be interested to see the results of a poll for best Lana album

― Week of Wonders (Ross)

I was thinking that earlier. I honestly have no idea which one would win.

kitchen person, Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

anyone game to start it? :)

I'm not overly familiar with this record yet but I would say the weakest link on some of these songs is the sonics - summer bummer, groupie love and In My Feelings just feel more empty sonically than her other material. However, on a track like "In My Feelings" Lana's performance is so great it carries it imo.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link

like "Summer Bummer" isn't really convincing on a melodic or rhythmic level to me at all - it's very hollow and generic

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:31 (six years ago) link

incidentally I am listening to the Sevdaliza album and it's such a dead ringer for LDR that I couldn't not plug it here

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

(but replace the hip-hop influence with trip-hop)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

Ultraviolence is clearly her best album to me but this might be second-best on first listen? definitely seems like it could be cut down a few tracks though

ufo, Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link

Ultraviolence is definitely my favourite. It strikes me as the meeting point between Mazzy Star and Portishead at times, which is a great thing. A very fine comedown album.

For sentimental reasons I would say Born To Die is my 2nd choice, but this new one may overtake it

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link

I'd probably still say Born To Die but it's extremely close now.

kitchen person, Saturday, 22 July 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link

most interesting thing about being away from ILX is coming back to find out what people have been losing their shit over for the past six months. turns out it's jocelyn wildenstein doing chris isaak covers. cool.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, January 16, 2012 7:25 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

most interesting thing about digging into ilx from times past is sometimes seeing posts like this

nomar, Saturday, 22 July 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Loving pretty much of all of this with the exception of the two ASAP tracks and the Sean Lennon ones. album is a real grower

Week of Wonders (Ross), Saturday, 22 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

What? The Sean Lennon one is cool :( it's like a reworking of Something.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I adore the Sean Lennon song. I'm still not sold on Summer Bummer as it just seems like a rewrite of High By The Beach. Groupie Love has grown on me a lot. I'm having a hard time getting my head around Cherry. Definitely the weirdest song she's done thanks to those bizarre backing vocals.

kitchen person, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

Moka - i'm into the lennon one now :)

this album rules

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 23 July 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link

life rocked me like mötley / life rocked me ultra softly

just another (diamonddave85), Sunday, 23 July 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

Just listening to Ultraviolence again. It's definitely not my favourite album of hers but that run from the title track to Sad Girl is really incredible. If the second half had been that strong, it would be my favourite no problem.

kitchen person, Sunday, 23 July 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link

Just gonna post this here in case anyone's interested (poll thread)

Let me kiss you hard in the POLLING rain - Lana Del Rey poll

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 23 July 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link

don't know how I feel about this yet; not crazy about the rap cameos, they seem really poorly integrated. I love the song with NIcks, and like the one with Sean Lennon a lot until the groaner self-referential line. But I listened to this in the car (twice) and it's not very well suited for driving around. Will listen more carefully today. Oh I also hate the 'take off take off all your clothes' line, ugh, particularly since it sounds exactly like the 'hello, hello, can you hear me?" line in 'Without You'

akm, Monday, 24 July 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link

oh I don't know. Lana and A$AP can be my generation's Marvin and Tammi if they want.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 July 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

the rap cameos are a better fit than sean lennon

mh, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

why? hehas a fairly innocuous voice that blends in fine in that song. granted I have no bias against Sean Lennon, I like him fine.

akm, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

yeah i'm not entirely sure how i feel about 'summer bummer' either. would have been a fine b-side, but it feels a bit out of place on the album. i will give her credit for experimenting though: i considered "west coast" and "freak" to be largely unsuccessful attempts at combining trap and hip hop. a combination that she executes successfully all over this album

just another (diamonddave85), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

the chorus for lust for life reminds me of kiss me by sixpence ;-/

the opening motorbike sound on that track prolly an intentional nod to shangri las

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

"i considered "west coast" and "freak" to be largely unsuccessful attempts at combining trap and hip hop" really? I think West Coast is the best song on Ultraviolence and one of her best songs ever.

akm, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

I like Freak

I'm not sure how West Coast sounds like that, seems completely different

mh, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link


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