Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LinXXmy2Hno

i really love how gordon (twice so far) has said "APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR ALBERT" after albert has said something terrible

Wait, was was Lil's hand in the pocket and making a fist meant to mean? From FWWM.

You notice she had one hand in her pocket, which means they're hiding something; and the other hand made into a fist, which means they're gonna be belligerent.

"they" being the local authorities

Ty AA

Is "entered the zone" a reference to Stalker? Apologies if this has already been covered.

That's what Albert says in the morgue scene.

okayyyy just a couple quick things

the notion that HBO are being aggressive or whatever by airing GOT in that slot is bizarre. They've used that same timeslot for the last six years.

and no for a movie, it's totally normal to film stuff out of order. is IS weird for TV, though, and hammers home that Lynch really did plan and conceive it as an 18-hour movie.

Okay, is the fact that Matthew Lillard's wife got shot through the eye in her home just a major plot hole or what?

I didn't realize that was GoT's usual timeslot. But that still doesn't account for those new promos which just feature one GoT performer after another saying 'fuck you, Twin Peaks' to the camera. Seems aggressive to me but what do I know.

Okay, is the fact that Matthew Lillard's wife got shot through the eye in her home just a major plot hole or what?

― I'm make-believe. (jed_), Friday, 14 July 2017 13:31 (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in what respect?

It's just never been mentioned.

it was mentioned before the interrogation.

or are you talking about the recurrence of the eye specifically?

perhaps it's just because this whole show is chekhov's regional distribution warehouse

Yeah Macklin mentioned it during the buckhorn csi season 1 recap along with the new details that George the lawyer was arrested and the secretary was murdered with a car bomb (admittedly we saw the setup to both of these things so neither is exactly surprising). It seems like the most significant parts of the buckhorn investigation were happening offscreen for us to be told-not-shown them later. It's funny, I called Westworld "a show where mystery means exposition that hasn't happened yet" but then the way this show handles eg the fact that Hastings is an occultist who went to another dimension then published a blog about it is like that in the extreme, but I'm like "yeah that's why it's good OBVIOUSLY"

I mean this last episode had an honest to god irl "as you know"!

heaps of part 9 was "as you know" in effect, which is the mean reason it's my least favourite episode to date.

I called Westworld "a show where mystery means exposition that hasn't happened yet"

i fully agree that it's happening in twin peaks. "remember that guy? who was crying seven episodes ago? and his wife died? that one? here's a billion crucial things we didn't tell you about him" isn't necessarily lazy, but i don't like being drawn out of the show by the showrunners going "wait, hi, oh hey here's some fish food, carry on, pretend i wasn't here"

The fact that they waited 7 episodes before just telling us makes me like it better I think

https://www.thekindland.com/culture/did-david-lynch-rip-off-neil-young-to-create-twin-1440

Obviously a hyperbolic statement, but having never seen Human Highway I'm curious whether there are any more than superficial similaritites.

Yeah I'd like to see it but even my friends who are also big trans & devo fans don't seem to be that into it so I was never in a hurry to check it out

still obsessed with 'shadow'

I've seen HH and uh yeah, no

Total wishful thinking from some Neil Young fan. Neil also edited down the best part of HH in the recent director's cut: the insane 9-minute jam w/ Devo on "Hey Hey My My (Into the Black)"

My brother is a huge Neil fan, so I trust his opinion that HH is a 'Piece of Crap'.

I don't know what's wrong with just saying "this reminded me of that" without making these weird claims tbh. As singular as this show is, it doesn't exist in a vacuum & is riffing on all kinds of film sub-genres. Speaking of which, I was saying a few weeks ago about watching starman & it reminding me of the mr jackpots stuff, I thought it might just be me having twin peaks on the brain but in a recent interview Kyle M said he took inspiration from Bridges's performance so that was a nice bit of vindication

I kept thinking yesterday about the facial expression when he's drinking coffee, and the lip movement when he doesn't quite smack his lips really reminds me of elderly people sitting around at a retirement home

He's doing amazing work for sure. That shot of his face as he sat in the vegas police dept was so great

not sure why people are thinking HBO has given one thought to TP S3 at all given that GOT is a global phenomenon (was compared to being as big as Star Wars on 'The Watch' pod the other day)

I love Bell's body language. Her walking itself has so much character

ha yeah I think she's comprised of equal parts catwalk and vamp. I found her inability to stop gyrating in place during the smoking scene hilarious

Jumpin Joseph. pic.twitter.com/WpE6HX2OnB

— frozen reeds (@frozenreeds) July 12, 2017

Nice! @frozenreeds is an esteemed former ilxor who I miss seeing on the classical threads, btw

Ha, that makes sense! Love his tweets.

Love seeing Bernard Shakey hanging out with Dr. Jacoby and Betty Briggs (and Cameron Crowe and Gerald Casale) tbh. Shovel yrselves out of the ditch and into the truth!
http://www.trbimg.com/img-56d5c730/turbine/la-et-ms-neil-young-film-human-highway-screeni-001/950/950x534

I forgot to ask earlier: was Miguel ferrer able to film all of his stuff for the season before he passed away?

this is good

http://filmmakermagazine.com/102922-like-sand-through-the-hourglass-twin-peaks-the-return/#.WWkeSITyuUk

IIRC, none of the staggeringly-large number of TP actors who've died recently died while filming was still underway. Maybe Catherine Coulson?

But Miguel Ferrer died fairly recently, so he was at least alive throughout filming (how well he was is a different question, I suppose).

this is good

http://filmmakermagazine.com/102922-like-sand-through-the-hourglass-twin-peaks-the-return/#.WWkeSITyuUk🕸

Thanks for this, it is indeed

Harry Dean turned 91 today

will smoke a pack today in his honor

I think coulson died *before* principal filming started, which is why it was such a surprise when she was on the cast list. Don't think anyone died during filming - maybe the guy who plays toad

the log lady scenes to me feel almost like he just gave her a bunch of lines to read and then wrote the script around those lines later

The script was apparently finished before they took it to showtime so I imagine she's reading a very pared-down version of the part they'd originally written for her & they tweaked the rest of the script appropriately

here's something that popped into my head today: what the hell happened to that state cop who was accompanying the buckhorn investigators? He just disappeared from the narrative entirely. I know that happens in this but unlike any of the other characters we've only seen once I can't see what function he serves if he doesn't come back - he'll have been a literally pointless character. Maybe he'll be the one to investigate the warden's death?

I also want to hear an update about the state trooper who got radiation poisoning or whatever from the garmonbozia.

I'm kinda feeling that we'll never get those people back and I think it's a shame. In some cases it's a hanging thread but in many others it feels like they forgot about things.

I met up with a friend, who's a massive Lynch fan, and we felt the same way: that the humour falls flat in this. I have found very little of this funny even, or especially, the things that are meant to be funny. He agreed with me also that the Dougie thing was incredibly drawn out and not funny. My objection to the Dougie thread is not that pace or the slowness but that it's not interesting, not funny and, in some sense utterly superfluous (so far! I'd love to be proven wrong)

Playing devils advocate here, I just feel like the Dougie thing is completely pointless and that's the programme would have been better without it and that a lot mor bad cooper in its place would have been better. I was just incredibly excited when KM came in as bad cooper and there's not a single thing about Dougie that interests me. My friend was raving about how good Naomi Watts was but I don't see it. I just think he fancies her (as he should) and thinks that = an amazing performance. I think her performance is shrill and lacks nuance or skill but what's she going to do with the material she has to work with?

Im still liking it, on the whole.

To be clear, I'm deliberately hedging my bets here because I want this to become awesome but I'm also sick of people telling me how amazing this whole thing is whereas, to me it's like 25% amazing and 50% good and the rest is waste, as Mark E Smith said.

I find the different register between nuclear explosion + aftermath and possible huge repercussions and Andy and Lucy talking about armchair colours to be not very satisfying.

Disliking the Dougie stuff is fair, honestly seems designed to frustrate and disrupt. But I guess that's part of what's appealing about it to me? It's aggressive, strange, alien and something you would never fucking see anyone else dare to do.

Also there are 9 hours left, so pretty early to complain about loose threads. Though sure, there will likely be plenty.

Jed, maybe this show isn't for you.