Ariel Pink

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Album is great and not as goofy as his last two. Definitely contains at least three or four career highlights and is pretty consistently good in a way that reminds me, again, of Before Today

bunny slopes, Thursday, 13 July 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

The Doldrums is my favorite Ariel Pink album, but he's released a variety of albums since that are most certainly full of those types of songs, particularly the last two.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

And I absolutely love Pom Pom, so I'm ok with that.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

Yeah the first track sounds like a Maus thing

calstars, Friday, 14 July 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

i don't get the appeal. I hear weak melodies and recycling of old ideas. Reminds me of Mature Themes, which imo is his weakest big label album.

nostormo, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:50 (six years ago) link

"Kitchen Witch" is very good

But the title track seems to be the "round and round" of the album. I dig the Doors homage near the end

I wonder if Tim Koh plays on this

calstars, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

I imagine he's on most of it, Koh has been with him for 15+ years, maybe 20...

flappy bird, Friday, 14 July 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

Ha, I'd watch that

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

https://radio.foxnews.com/2017/07/12/ariel-pink-on-the-science-of-music/

Greg Gutfield lol

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

lol I forgot that he went on Red Eye in 2013

flappy bird, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Who's singing on kitchen witch?

calstars, Friday, 14 July 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

i think dayzed inn daydreams is one of the best songs of 2014

Treeship, Friday, 14 July 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

I think this album is pretty disappointing.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

Time to Meet Your God rules. i like the album ok but i think it's mixed poorly. for instance Bubblegum Dreams feels like it should be all spikey and crystalline and it sounds a bit flat and over-compressed instead. Pom Pom had way more texture to it.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link

I think "acting" is really good too

calstars, Saturday, 22 July 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

Time to Meet Your God rules. i like the album ok but i think it's mixed poorly. for instance Bubblegum Dreams feels like it should be all spikey and crystalline and it sounds a bit flat and over-compressed instead. Pom Pom had way more texture to it.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, July 21, 2017 7:13 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck... the mixing was my biggest problem with Before Today besides the grab bag sequencing... i loved Mature Themes and Pom Pom because they sounded so precise and clear.

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 July 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

Jesus fuck I listened to five minutes of that Greg Gutfield thing I think half of my brain died how dumb can 2 motherfuckers be?

I dug Before Today but I guess maybe this dude isn't for me

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 22 July 2017 06:34 (six years ago) link

Flappy, you don't think "bright lit" "Beverley" and "lestat" from Before sound clear? (Dare I say crisp)?

Also the muddiness of "hot tub" and even "menopause" kind of work in their favor

"Phanthasma" is a good b-side

calstars, Saturday, 22 July 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link

Jesus fuck I listened to five minutes of that Greg Gutfield thing I think half of my brain died how dumb can 2 motherfuckers be?

I dug Before Today but I guess maybe this dude isn't for me

Dude the early stuff really is way better

brimstead, Saturday, 22 July 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

Flappy, you don't think "bright lit" "Beverley" and "lestat" from Before sound clear? (Dare I say crisp)?

Also the muddiness of "hot tub" and even "menopause" kind of work in their favor

The whole album has a lot more reverb than Mature Themes or Pom Pom. They're "well produced," but I don't think it serves the songs. It's very desaturated sounding to me. Mature Themes and Pom Pom are full band but there's a directness and a dryness to them that resembles his early work. I agree that Hot Body Rub and Menopause Man are served well by the production - those are two of my favorites from Before Today (Beverly Kills is my favorite song but I far prefer the early version).

flappy bird, Sunday, 23 July 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link

The messiness of his early work and his recording process - the little vocal interjections, lots of call and response panning, two seconds of some instrument that never reappears - are all over Mature Themes and Pom Pom. I find the production on Before Today very boring, common, flat, Phil Spector-y in the worst way at times.

flappy bird, Sunday, 23 July 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link

After several spins:
I Wanna Be Young and Kitchen Witch are great. Feels Like Heaven is ok. Don't care about the rest.

nostormo, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Long interview on stereogum today

calstars, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

The phrase "Kitchen Witch" is used ia few times in the Office s9e17. Wonder if he took that or if it's just general cultural osmosis

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

I haven't heard the leak - but a friend told me that there's another instance on the album of AP totally aping a vocal melody from a famous song. Wish I could remember what song.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link

Time To Live = Video Killed The Radio Star's verse

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

I know about that one, it's a track that hasn't been released as a single. I texted my friend, waiting to hear back...

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link

AP twitter says there are 4 b-sides comin with the vinyl, could it be one of those?

calstars, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link

Did a vinyl rip leak? My friend heard whatever y'all have been talking about.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

OK, my friend says one of the songs on here cops the guitar/chords and a bit of the vocal from "Son of a Gun" by the Vaselines.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

Yeah, Bubblegum Dreams definitely bears a strong resemblance at times.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link

yeah i think he even sings up up up and down at one point

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

Long interview on stereogum today

― calstars, dinsdag 25 juli 2017 17:44 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah. If you want to hear AP explain why Trump is a "success" and how unfair the president's being treated - as he is himself (his words) - do check it out. I sure wish I hadn't.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:27 (six years ago) link

its interesting that he went back to home recording for this one. but it sounds like his last couple of studio records just w worse sonics. its not like the tape wobble and noise and saturation of his old stuff, they probably bought a bunch of nice microphones and a good multitrack machine. so its sort-of lofi but not really. why not do it on a crappy tape machine like the old days?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

Long interview on stereogum today

― calstars, dinsdag 25 juli 2017 17:44 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah. If you want to hear AP explain why Trump is a "success" and how unfair the president's being treated - as he is himself (his words) - do check it out. I sure wish I hadn't.

It was so long I had to take a break last night... certainly a throwback to the pom pom interviews...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link

eh his defense of Trump is pretty tepid. AP seems like either not a very bright guy or a garden-variety troll who just seeks out "difficult" opinions but he makes cool music so

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

After years and years of following him I think the answer def is 'not very bright'. But he indeed makes very cool music.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

he's a contrarian & a troll, i mean in 2015 he went on stage and compared himself to Sandusky and Jimmy Savile. he's very good at what he does - making music - & i don't mind him mouthing off... although i was hoping this album cycle would be a bit more mellow and earnest, and it has been so far. i feel like the press tour is getting to him. he admitted as much in the Greg Gutfeld interview and this new one that he called the record Dedicated to Bobby Jameson so that he wouldn't have to talk about himself.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

ok done with this fuckface.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

itt: ilx's own little slice of reddit

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

lol what

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

This guy is nuts btw

brimstead, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

he's not that nuts. he's pretty boring and sane irl. he's a rich jew from beverly hills. he's never worked in his life. and now he's spouting pro trump mra bullshit. fuckkkkkk him.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

That's why interviews like this don't seem like a big deal to me - I don't need Ariel Pink's political beliefs to align with mine, because he is a crazy person.

bunny slopes, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

responding to brimstead there

bunny slopes, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

i mean he's drug damaged but a lot of it is for show.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

he's crazy like the way beck was during mellow gold except he never grew out of it.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

like you think a dude would make it 4 years through cal arts if he was legit "insane" he is "quirky" at best.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link

i mean he's drug damaged but a lot of it is for show.

― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:20 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm the dude still does speed, i'm surprised he isn't more burnt out

flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link


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