it sounds pretty cool, I have no doubt the original is probably better
Both the original book and Telemundo telenovela are fantastic. Haven't seen any of the new series, but the earlier versions are well worth your time.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link
this is the one i'm watching --> Telemundo telenovela
(new season of same not out till next year i don't think)
― mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
run teresa run!
aside from being a bit muddling -- lots fo lashbacks and recaps -- LRDS has no unexciting moments so far (tho some of the catfights are a bit kitschy)
― mark s, Friday, 14 July 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link
i mean flashbacks
― mark s, Friday, 14 July 2017 23:01 (six years ago) link
so (as many know but perhaps not non-mexican speaking ILX):
kate del castillo, the actress who plays teresa mendoza la reina del sur, was who putting sean penn in the same room as EL CHAPO, hence semi-responsible for EC's subsequent capture
inadvertently: she seems to approve of what she sees as EC's robin-hood-like ways (penn she now rather despises, she says his rolling stone piece is full of fibs abt her)
el chapo apparently took to kate del castillo (a) bcz she tweeted something approving (see above) and (b) bcz he greatly enjoyed la reina del sur (the correct response) and (c) felt he could trust the character KdC was playing, hence the actress too (flawed critical praxis IMO, will never commission a TV column from him)
― mark s, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link
meanwhile lRdS itself is currently exploring the ethics (and otherwise) of people-trafficking and generally looking more closely at the dynamics of migrancy in the med than a great deal of much fancier TV
― mark s, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:07 (six years ago) link
putting s/b put
― mark s, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
been compulsively watching this with my niece for a few weeks and it's at once amazing and sometimes silly. thx for rec! have abt 10 more eps to go and shit is getting really real. and i keep falling in love. first it was Soraya, then Veronica. (so many great characters, too - Batman, Pote, Oleg, Fati)
― freedom is not having to measure life with a ruler (outdoor_miner), Friday, 18 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
I liked the sound of this and thought I was downloading a torrent of it. Boo! It turned out to be the poxy American remake. Another series that doesn't get mentioned on here is Gomorrah, which is an ultra-violent trashy crime series, with a cast of some impeccably dressed thugs amongst the ruin pron of the crumbling housing projects in Naples. And the death count is ridiculously high - between S1 and s2 more than half the cast are already in the ground. It is good fun though.
― calzino, Friday, 18 August 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
episode 19 plot summary: "teresa loses again"
― mark s, Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
her boyfs are all gorgeous, also dicks
― mark s, Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
some eps set in a women's prison: assuming dickish and/or dead boys not an issue for a while
― mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
"Lieut.O'Farrell is pure oligarchy, honey"
(also not a lieut., i didn't get that bit)
― mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
it is more o/g cell block h than orange is the new, that's for sure
― mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnemDkHvgA
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
actually a better version, fond as i am etc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-eYklcmEM
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
paty: "where i walk the grass stops growing"
(self-hate rather than threat)
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
I wish someone would upload an English subtitles rip of this in t0rrentland, it sounds awesome.
― calzino, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link
tbh the subtitles on netflix are intermittent AND wayward
lol, there's more time displacement in this soap than in inland empire
― mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
i predict paty too will die :{
― mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
http://68.media.tumblr.com/a92ef861f1c2056ae6a16aa7e8adc7ec/tumblr_inline_mlxzsjMhxw1qz4rgp.gif
― mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
we regret to inform you i am back on my* bullshit
*actually kate del castillo's obv
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
lol she just had her michael corleone MASS-REVENGE moment: "la mexicana says HI"
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:06 (six years ago) link
^^^this ended p badly (tho we are not yet half way thru the 63 eps of the first series)
― mark s, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
love the way the only person who actually gets the depth of her UNSPOKEN SOULFULNESS is the top russian gangster
― mark s, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
the full name of this character -- usually referred too as pote or el pote -- is POTEMKINE GALVEZ
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
"if blood has to rain from the sky, we will open our umbrellas"
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
"it's the beginning of the end for teresa mendoza"
we are on ep 38 of 63, so i guess "… but perhaps the end of the beginning" applies here
― mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link
pati getting very meta in her jealousy: "what shall we call this telenovella? love in the time of narcotraffic?"
(wd watch, obviously) (am watching)
― mark s, Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
"you're as mad as a goat, tesa!"
oleg pleased that teresa is happy (for once) but also worried
― mark s, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
lots of TV crime dramas and policiers are about migrancy peripherally -- its "problems" as significant plot-driving element etc -- but i've never watched one that centres it the way lRdS does
― mark s, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
lol at me being taken aback when the chief russian gangster turns out to have beef with communists -- i'm like "i like him, how can he be a czarist?"
he is in fact a murderous drug smuggler albeit one who likes and more importantly understands teresa mendoza (also a gangster)
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
every three or four eps someone is sure to say "it's the beginning of the end for teresa mendoza"
s1 still has 18 eps to go
― mark s, Thursday, 16 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
"my aztec version of the count of monte cristo"
paty is drunk and sad at a party
― mark s, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
"gentlemen, the end of teresa mendoza has started"
― mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link
lol ambushed by unexpected disappointment every time oleg* disses soviet socialism
*why, bcz he is a GANGSTER
― mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
repeat plot point: that a character is desperately in lust w/someone merely bcz they resemble teresa mendoza physically
― mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
"you're a victim of cocaine!" "i'm a victim of YOU and your LIES!"
― mark s, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link
"i had to pretend i was in love with you but i fell into my own trap!"
from now on all all scenes of angrily recrimination between loves must take place in a sportscar being driven at high wild speed along a cliff-top road by someone coked out of her head and weeping uncontrollably
― mark s, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link
i hadn't really paid it much mind as i don't listen to songwords much even when they're not in spanish (which i don't speak) but several times an episode los tigres del norte break in with the sung refrain "la reina del sur! traficante muy famosa" (= "the queen of the south! very famous drug dealer!" )
i love this show with my life
― mark s, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
ramiro is very much not my favourite character but i do like actor salvador zerboni's commitment to seeming to be on ALL the drugs ALL the time
― mark s, Sunday, 10 December 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
ALL THE DRUGS
http://www.telemundo.com/sites/nbcutelemundo/files/styles/promotional_content_4_3/public/sites/nbcutelemundo/files/images/gallery/2014/02/19/reina_rataseductora01_130514439041_2_0.jpg?itok=GqEw1Mzj
― mark s, Sunday, 10 December 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
trying to think of presidential candidates more obviously evil-looking than epifanio vargas
― mark s, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
Series 2 just started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0mZg6xd9uE
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 April 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link
lol i completely missed this (or maybe it only just started on uk netflix)
s2 has 60 eps!! oh my!
https://media.giphy.com/media/BNaETsu7Jqz6I91ZwR/giphy.gif
― mark s, Sunday, 25 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
MUCH higher production values
melodrama index: unchanged based on e1
― mark s, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
hadn't noticed this thread all year and had no idea there was going to be a S2. i'm excited, thx! kinda have mixed feelings since Pote is no longer around, but will check it nonetheless
― one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Friday, 27 September 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
e2 is even more exciting and ridiculous
(i am watching slowly in case my constitution can't take it)
― mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
she still has catastrophically bad taste in men lol
― mark s, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link
i mean they're hot obv but never have her best interests at heart
gotta say s2 does make good use of the much bigger budget sometimes
― mark s, Monday, 30 November 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
even when it makes some of the plot turns seem extremely goofy
love how stubborn and capable sofia is (and how complicated this makes everything for the all adults)
― mark s, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
i have got weirdly out of step with myself -- some of the plot i have already seen, other bits not even slightly
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
s2 has a very different feel
― mark s, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
loool a very word-heavy reveal at a fraught everyone-back-together moment suddenly casually tosses in the claim -- i think meant to be true, a man is pleading for his life -- that the US are interfering in mexico's elections by ensuring the president is (a) a legendarily corrupt gangster and (b) a puppet in their pocketses
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
during the extremely long word-dump recap the approaching threat has once again been the sexy assassin on a bike but the recap-reveal is so detailed that it feels like she's motored across the whole of mexico
― mark s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
oh no
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
i kind of knew this was on the weay bcz i spoilered myself looking up something abt what else the actress in question had done
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
don't forget totzi :(
is there no one else in this airport?
anyway lol it's GLOVES OFF now
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
"there's a reason they call her QUEEN OF THE SOUTH"
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
thats right
https://radical.town/media/radical-town-media/accounts/avatars/000/000/008/static/d986e9e06e7521c7.png
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
ok so who ELSE is inexplicably alive and requires fill-in backstory to firm up this fact unconvincingly
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
not that i care, this is exactly what i watch this insane show for
― mark s, Sunday, 6 December 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
it is effective that -- in this tangled war between very bad gangsters doing murders and stuff -- the overarching baddie who allows us to withhold full judgment is washington, behaving very much more badly
― mark s, Monday, 7 December 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
this is a documentary
haha this US agency is out-of-the-box evil
and it's not even the CIA
(well it might be but i *think* it's the DEA)
― mark s, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link
not helping that i started watching this series 1 x yrs ago, binged like 40eps, stopped for 10 months for various reasons inc 🦠🦠🦠🦠 and am back again and bingeing again -- some of these callbacks are p mysterious to me, like who is this young tied-up man suddenly
(last week he was skateboarding in front of congress in washington and he's kira's nephew but how does he have a plot role, i just entirely forgot)
― mark s, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
mexican all-woman shoot-out near the washington monument, we love too see it
― mark s, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
¡finally! circled back to this (starting at e54)
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link
lol i have no idea who this young angry grieving goth lady is any more, there is a downside to my very punctuated bingeing style
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link
"sit near the river and you will see your enemy's body float by"
this is also my motto
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 17:57 (one year ago) link
my enemy is ned raggett
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
a funny thing abt this show is that they present the DEA as a kind of more focused CIA, all plots and plans and overthrowing the rightful mexican government (a gangster)
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 18:06 (one year ago) link
teresa has a low opinion of gringos
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link
literally no one is ever dead in this show
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link
i see from five yrs ago i was commenting on the unending interwoven flashbacks, that hasn't slowed down at all
― mark s, Friday, 27 May 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link
lee harvey batman
― mark s, Sunday, 29 May 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link
this ep has an escape from jail by helicopter as a mere passing element for some minor characters
(i mean i'm sure they'll have a role shortly but in any other show an escape from jail by helicopter would be climactic for a bigwig)
― mark s, Thursday, 2 June 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
(just checked and s3 of his marvellous show is all ready to run)
― mark s, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link
o fuk that's eric roberts (as the corrupt and murderous head of the DEA)
― mark s, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
season three begun broadcasting 1 x week ago: 6 eps so far tho i have not found them anywhere yet
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link
i keep reading that it's on netflix but it's not on netflix uk yet 😔
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7yh9KOrQpE
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link
https://68.media.tumblr.com/a92ef861f1c2056ae6a16aa7e8adc7ec/tumblr_inline_mlxzsjMhxw1qz4rgp.gif
― mark s, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link
loooool amazing gif
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link