Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

I'm gonna keep calling him Dougie as long as characters in the show do

it's the start of "drink full and descend" from the poem, I was trying to stick with the established thread title format

Ahh yeah, thanks. I just feel I can't keep up with all the references and quotes to remember, but console myself that my few fellow friends who are also watching are more or less the same. It's the ilx thread that puts so much (back) into place after every episode.

if you guys can't accept me calling him Dougie I could also go with Gooper

Dooper

although I think you should see which irritates NA more and we can run with that :)

booper is unquestionably a horrible coinage tbfttl

"...but ya doesn't has ta call me Cooper!"

I think gordon cole is channeling mr jackpots in that awkward bit of dialogue where denise says "you're on the trail of something big" and he dumbly echoes "big"

& speaking of awkward, I really wanna see more of this guy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBLc7dAWsAACl7w.jpg

I loved the bit where chad is arguing with the dispatcher and then it just pans to this deputy and just holds on his dreamy expression for several seconds

cool interview with Lillard re his scene in EP 9 http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/07/twin-peaks-matthew-lillard-interview

so the shooting scripts are definitely not episode-specific, not that they would be

I kind of wonder if a lot of the different pieces and how they fit together were pieced together in editing. I get the impression Lynch does that, just has different story elements, shoots them all, and then puts them together into his films.

Ha ha, wow, so that particular scene was Chrysta Bell's first ever acting experience. That David, I tell ya...

What are you refering to?

The Lillard interview linked above. His hysterical weeping scene this week was Bell's first scene in anything ever, apparently.

Ahhh thanks

Lillard is really good in this. I can't say I've ever noted him particularly.

mh OTM

Get the feeling after Inland (one of his most improvised works) that there's no way Lynch would go back to linear shooting

It was his first scene of the day—and the first scene in which Chrysta Bell, who plays F.B.I. Agent Tammy Preston, had performed, outside of short films and TV movies. “She’d never been on set before,” Lillard said. “So you have an actress that’s like, ‘Hi, this is my first day of acting. . . This is my first scene that I’ve ever done.’”

Astonishing that it was Bell's first day on set, because watching the series - for me as a viewer - it really felt like they deliberately handed the interrogation to her, seeing she's been doing well, growing, earned Gordon's trust etc. I had these thoughts watching it, and convinced myself she upped her game, became a bigger factor in the show handling it as well as she did.
Knowing now this was her first day, only affirms how good her acting has been. Because the second or third or fourth or whatever day came after that first shoot she had to act in "past tense", less knowledgeable or sure. That's good stuff.

I love Bell's body language. Her walking itself has so much character

tbf very few movies and shows are shot linearly, but the breakdown of what is going to appear in which episode (or where in the film a scene appears) can vary quite a bit depending on the directing/editing style. I don't think a lot of directors adhere completely to the original script, especially after viewing finished footage

tbf very few movies and shows are shot linearly

yeah wtf this is not at all unusual

the scheduling of shoots is dictated by a whole host of factors, none of which have anything to do with the narrative - location, availability of personnel, complexity of the shot, tech/crew/gear involved etc.

ah i love being corrected on ILX

I think where Lynch may differ from some other directors is that he clearly didn't give cast members entire, complete scripts. With films that's pretty normal, and with TV often there's complete episode scripts because episodes may be shot discretely - but this isn't structured like a normal tv show. Lynch (and Frost) obviously had a bunch of scenes written and a general structure in mind, but then they shot it piecemeal as inspiration and necessity dictated, then took all the assembled footage and cut it together into the sequence we're seeing now.

(that's my guess anyway)

tbf very few movies and shows are shot linearly

yeah wtf this is not at all unusual

― Οὖτις, Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:58 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well yeah, of course I know this. Yeez guys. That wasn't my point. Point was that Bell acted really well making it seem she 'grabbed her chance' with the interrogation after what we've seen of her before, and us viewers now learning this was her first day on set.

i actually find her acting really bad and am not surprised that she's basically a non-professional actor. real "actor in a post-war italian movie" vibes

Post-war Italian movies underrated imho :)

You really think she's "bad"?

I don't think she's been given much to work with yet, but she is being deployed in an entertaining way imo

Yeah, same. It's very "in character", but not "bad" imo.

xp. i find her body language awkward, her facial expressions affected, etc. i feel the performance is not really aligned with the qualities we usually look for in "good" acting imo. although many of the scenes have similar qualities in general and I'm sure lynch's direction is deliberate

i love that "drink full" being in the thread title is technically a spoiler but nobody knows what it fucking means anyway

call for help

Post-war Italian movies underrated imho :)

You really think she's "bad"?

― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:14 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah and post-war italian movies are some of the best movies! i just found, when first watching them, that the non-professional acting combined with dubbed dialogue has a Verfremdungseffekt

xp. i find her body language awkward, her facial expressions affected, etc. i feel the performance is not really aligned with the qualities we usually look for in "good" acting imo. although many of the scenes have similar qualities in general and I'm sure lynch's direction is deliberate

― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:17 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I get that. Lots of people not necessarily "good" acting wise on this show, but it's been that way with many other - Andy and Lucy - so it feels wholly deliberate from Lynch to me.

Bonus points for using "Verfremdungseffekt" :) I love that, and wouldn't be surprised if Lynch watched a lot of fifties/sixties Italian movies (I am binging on that particular era of Italian films right now)

8pm is an extremely bad time for this show to air if they are moving it to that slot.

Having said that the show is going to be lucrative in terms of syndication and DVD, future streaming sales.

cb sux

I did not realize GoT was going to be airing at the same time as TP. That seems unnecessarily prickish of HBO.

― Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 July 2017 05:14 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

anyone who's hooked on twin peaks by now will probably stay there, especially after switching to GoT and realising most prestige tv is… not that good. shakey otm re stupider audience (disclaimer: not all GoT viewers are etc etc).

why would Showtime's competition be concerned anyway? GoT is a juggernaut, i doubt HBO's much concerned about what else happens to be airing at the time.

― circa1916, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:17 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah showtime seems to be on the twin peaks wagon for reputation/brand reasons more than anything. giving lynch money for 18 hours of television is self-evidently a risk.

I'm wondering if at some point we're gonna get Booper and Dougie in the same scene together tbh

― Οὖτις, Friday, 14 July 2017 06:13 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in a show where nothing is predictable and anything could (and does) happen, good & bad cooper sharing at least one shot is the only thing i would put money on.

booper is unquestionably a horrible coinage tbfttl

― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Friday, 14 July 2017 06:23 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otfm, it sounds like somebody should be tapping him gently on the nose

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LinXXmy2Hno

i really love how gordon (twice so far) has said "APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR ALBERT" after albert has said something terrible

Wait, was was Lil's hand in the pocket and making a fist meant to mean? From FWWM.

You notice she had one hand in her pocket, which means they're hiding something; and the other hand made into a fist, which means they're gonna be belligerent.

"they" being the local authorities

Ty AA

Is "entered the zone" a reference to Stalker? Apologies if this has already been covered.

That's what Albert says in the morgue scene.

okayyyy just a couple quick things

the notion that HBO are being aggressive or whatever by airing GOT in that slot is bizarre. They've used that same timeslot for the last six years.

and no for a movie, it's totally normal to film stuff out of order. is IS weird for TV, though, and hammers home that Lynch really did plan and conceive it as an 18-hour movie.

Okay, is the fact that Matthew Lillard's wife got shot through the eye in her home just a major plot hole or what?