Oh how my soul is now content.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
EliteDaily is still around
http://elitedaily.com/entertainment/celebrity/carly-rae-jepsen-new-album/2017596/
― Frozen CD, Saturday, 15 July 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
I was alright until "Charli XCX's 'The Fault In Our Stars'".
― Champiness, Sunday, 16 July 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
politely written but infuriatinghttps://thewalrus.ca/carly-rae-jepsen-hasnt-earned-your-scholarly-scrutiny/
― austinb, Friday, 28 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
Jason Guriel is a writer based in Toronto. His work has appeared in Elle, The Atlantic, and Slate.
the works of jason guriel
― j., Friday, 28 July 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
musta took a wrong turn at albuquerque
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
lol what a dink
― maura, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:28 (six years ago) link
that Anthony Lane paragraph he quotes is awful. "it's fine to write about pop-culture as long as you are sneering and dismissive" - can't understand how anyone can think that this would lead to good writing?
― soref, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
there's probably something to be said about how everyone who derides carly rae jepsen assumes her to be much younger than she is. it reflects an arms length engagement *and* an unwillingness to dig in and think about why they're so bothered. have any of the anti crj broadsides discussed her, you know, music?
― maura, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
Anyone who admires Anthony Lane (as a writer or a thinker) can get fucked.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
I liked him for about five months in 1998.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 July 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
like most people, he's gotten dumber and glibber with age
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link
None of this, I should point out, is meant to advance some silly value system pitting high art against pop culture; I’ll take the John Travolta vehicle Blow Out over Antonioni’s Blow Up any day.haha this sets up exactly the dichotomy it says it won't, which is weird seeing as blow up might as well have been directed by austin powers. prob still otm tho
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 July 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
Phillip J. Pierpont Kennicott VII looks down his lorgnette at the Kennedy Center Honors.
KenCen, apparently, is straight dissing ballet and opera to give awards to rock bands and even, gasp, rappers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/the-kennedy-center-honors-abandon-the-arts-for-pop-culture/2017/08/02/0287e65c-77a0-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_kennicott-1115am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.e1e19c23539f
― okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
tbf opera is horrible
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
I read the tone pretty differently from this.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 August 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
Yeah. I mean, I disagree with the thesis but it's not unsound; I think he wants to sway things too far in the opposite direction. The Kennedy Center Honors should be open across the spectrum and I would hope for a diverse group of honorees from disciplines popular and esoteric.
That said, LL as the first rapper to get an honor is both fitting and kind of weird. I guess Chuck D's sweet spot was too short for him to be a serious candidate and Will Smith was way too bubblegum to have credibility.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
http://static.oprah.com/2016/02/ep516-own-watn-8-949x534.jpg
:(
― mark s, Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
(Thanks, DJP.)
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link
I guess I feel like the distinction that Kennicott (and many commenters) are drawing between traditional/classic art forms, on the one hand, and popular/commercial art forms, on the other, is not being given much scrutiny.
Also if, indeed, the pendulum has swung too far in the direction of LL Cool J / Eagles / Lionel, it may be worth remembering how long popular music was kept _out_ of consideration as Serious Art(TM). I am not the right person to unpack how much elitism or class/race/gender stuff has been involved, but surely that's at least worth mentioning as a factor in what gets taken seriously as art?
― okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
I don't have a problem with any of them getting a Kennedy Center Honor! I do think it's reasonable to make an argument that Sam Shepard dying without one is a shame. It's also reasonable to make the argument that it is a little weird to give one to Gloria Estefan before giving one to Renee Fleming.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
That distinction is a couple of centuries old, with a plethora of literature scrutinizing it. Kennicott clearly has an opinion on it that is different from yours, and somewhat different from mine, but I don't think it's exceptionally extreme or poorly grounded, in terms of being a candidate for "worst piece of music writing ever".
(Also, going by Wikipedia, Fred Astaire and Richard Rodgers received KCHs in the first year they were awarded.)
xp
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
KCH has always been a mix of high- and low-brow since its inception, which is the best thing about it. It should remain a mix. It's valid to be concerned if either side gains primary focus.
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
Or sund4r OTM, if you prefer
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
tbf lol @ u
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 3 August 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
hey JLCL, I just listened to a 70yo sing the shit out of Glitter and Be Gay; want the youtube link?
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 3 August 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
it's not the _worst_ piece of music writing ever, but i'm impressed that bill wyman has the clout and social skills to presumably get paid for this piece of sub-dave marsh hackwork. at least when marsh came up with a zinger, he was brief.
http://www.vulture.com/2017/08/all-165-pink-floyd-songs-ranked-from-worst-to-best.html
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 4 August 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link
oh I don't know -- there's some sharp writing
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 August 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link
it reminded me of the discussion we had earlier this week about negative criticism and its flaws.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Friday, 4 August 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link
Do you like prog rock, the extravagantly conceptual and wildly technical post-psychedelic subgenre that ruled the world for about 30 seconds in the early 1970s before being torn to pieces by the starving street dogs of punk rock? Do you like the proggers, with their terrible pampered proficiency, their priestly robes, and their air—once they get behind their instruments—of an inverted, almost abscessed Englishness? I don’t.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/the-whitest-music-ever/534174
― Odysseus, Friday, 4 August 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
got a new d/n out of it at least
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Friday, 4 August 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
he talks about their priestly robes like that's a drawback to OTT rock music
― nomar, Friday, 4 August 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
'abcessed'?
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
I take that to mean, "so full of Englishness that if you prick them with a needle, out would come Devonshire clotted cream."
― okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 August 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
inverted tho
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 4 August 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
If Weigel were David Foster Wallace, he would have written his entire book from inside that cruise ship, possibly never leaving his cabin, eavesdropping on snatches of music and chitchat and sending out his imagination in heavy spirals of paranoia and insight. But Weigel is a political reporter for The Washington Post, so he climbs off that wiggy, proggy boat and treads onto the dry land of chronology.
jesus christ
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 4 August 2017 22:10 (six years ago) link
― okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin),
sounds tasty tbh
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 August 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
Now you come to mention it, Jon Anderson was a milkman for a while.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Friday, 4 August 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
This article seems to be creating a stramash on fb, tom
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Friday, 4 August 2017 23:53 (six years ago) link
I think "pampered proficiency" deserves more attention. I haven't brought myself to read the whole article yet, though.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link
Before reading or looking up anything about the author, I'm going to guess that the writer i) is white and ii) grew up wealthier than Geddy Lee.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link
And has never worked as a milkman.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:35 (six years ago) link
I just read it out of masochism and don't really know where to start.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link
if weigel were david foster wallace, he would have killed himself by now. maybe james parker should try to be more like david foster wallace.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 5 August 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link
ok that's enough
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 August 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
the same guy did this articlehttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/10/donald-trump-sex-pistol/497528/
― starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:56 (six years ago) link
Haha so the prog thing's not even the worst thing he's written
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 August 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
Parker's Rollins biog from the 90s was good. Not read/won't read these two pieces.
― Senator Luther Strange (stevie), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
guys is everett true okay
Look at the way he looks. Not so much a rock star as an exercise in hair conditioner. Dave Grohl is shit. How many times do I need to say this before you start listening? Hey, why not start listening? Just cos you’ve only heard a handful of songs in your life does not mean that no alternatives exist. Dave Grohl is shit. Do not be scared of the crowd. Has it not occurred to you that the crowd can be wrong sometimes? Dave Grohl is shit. The idea of listening to his music drives me to extremes of nothing. Dave Grohl is shit. Shout it from the tops of buses and shout it from street corners. He is dreary, whiny, derivative, needless, grey. Dave Grohl is shit. He makes Chris Martin sound like Beyoncé. Flaunt the bump/don’t flaunt the bump/FLAUNT THE BUMP! He makes Ed Sheeran shine with an inner fire. He puts Theresa May into perspective.
― pizzarro gizzarda (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
Everett True has not been ok for a long time but he's not wrong about Dave Grohl, he's just right for the usual tediously wrong aging POONK reasons
― a hulking and impenetrable dump (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 31 August 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link