Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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Uh, okay.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-trek-discoverys-main-character-has-suddenly-becom-1797161552

During the panel, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that her character, First Officer Michael Burnham, is actually the adoptive daughter of Sarek and Amanda—that’s right, Spock’s parents. According to Martin-Green, Sarek and Amanda took Burnham in after her parents were killed and she was raised on Vulcan. Sarek is also the one who committed her to Captain Philippa Georgiou, which explains their connection and relationship.

This essentially means that Michael Burnham is Spock’s adoptive sister, which raises a lot of questions: The main one is how we went an entire series, several movies, and two universes without Spock ever mentioning he had a sister. It seems unlike Spock to completely ignore someone who seemed to be a major part of his life—especially one who came into his life after such tragedy.

At the Star Trek: Discovery panel, producer Alex Kurtzman promised there actually is a really good explanation for how Michael disappeared out of Spock’s life so completely, which will keep Trek’s canon in tact. Unfortunately, they’re keeping that explanation to themselves.

“We’re aware [of the situation],” Kurtzman said during the panel. “You’ll see where it’s going, but we are staying consistent with canon.”

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Anyway, full new trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7IMj7WFyE

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

(And, unmysteriously, a new trailer for that Orville thing. Maybe we should be glad he didn't just remake GalaxyQuest?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKECRnZe2U

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

Borrowing a plot device from Star Trek V isn't the greatest of ideas.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link

i've had to unfollow all the trek FB pages i follow because of how awful the comments for discovery are. and cue the predictable "lol orville looks better than discovery" from pasty whitebread fucktards

clouds, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

I think we all know what Orville is, regardless of how the production value looks

mh, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

shoot PWFs out of a canon

see what i did there

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

nope

Nhex, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

what's "pwf" in this context?

mh, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

see my post

clouds, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

oh duh, thanks

mh, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

I can't say that this looks good, but then who cares since I won't be able to watch it anyway lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

had no idea this feat.ed dwight as harry mudd

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 00:30 (six years ago) link

that's pretty rad imo

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

fuck gucci has been so amazing lately

clouds, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

That Discovery trailer looks like hot garbage. (So does Orville.)

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

Never thought Neelix would end up in a Gucci editorial. http://tomandlorenzo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Gucci-FW17AC-Fashion-Tom-Lorenzo-Site-9.jpg

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Thursday, 27 July 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link

Even less so a Gorn.
http://tomandlorenzo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Gucci-FW17AC-Fashion-Tom-Lorenzo-Site-17.jpg

nickn, Thursday, 27 July 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link

saw the TOS episode yesterday with Liberace. i was surprised by how good his acting was! he was a perfect fit for the always fun petulant-Godlike-being-antagonizes-Enterprise-out-of-boredom storyline. the episode reminded me a lot of that first Q episode from TNG, he even put Kirk on trial and everything. also this ep features Uhura jamming out on a real harpsichord <3

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

musta been a good actor because he wasn't liberace!

Q was created by Roddenberry as time filler to screw another writer out of some of their royalties in the TNG pilot. wouldn't surprise me if he was thinking of that TOS episode.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

Weird/funny/sad story about Shatner's assistant going rogue on his twitter account:

http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7038295/william-shatner-twitter-wtf

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 31 July 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

The actor who played the Squire of Gothos, William Campbell, also starred in Francis Coppola's first film Dementia 13. He played a Klingon captain in the tribble episode later. My dad knew him growing up in Newark.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 July 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

Weird thing was I hadn't known or forgotten about the other guy who just died who had played two different Star Trek TOS characters, one in "The Way To Eden" and the other on the Nazi Germany episode.

Q was created by Roddenberry as time filler to screw another writer out of some of their royalties in the TNG pilot.

and Q is the only good thing in the pilot. was the episode really just gonna focus on the mystery of farpoint station for a full hour and a half?

chinavision!, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

the pilot is a total catastrophe from beginning to end, it's a real anti-achievement

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

i like the jim henson space jellyfish at the end.

they really thought the old evil guy at farpoint would be the recurring character and not q.

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

(not actually henson, they just remind me of the mahna mahna twins)

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

and Q is the only good thing in the pilot. was the episode really just gonna focus on the mystery of farpoint station for a full hour and a half?

The pilot was originally supposed to be a regular 45 minute episode, and D.C. Fontana wrote the original script (which indeed was only about the Farpoint mystery) accordingly. But Paramount insisted the pilot should be feature-length, so Roddenberry added the Q subplot to it. I agree that it's fairly dull, and obviously both the Fontana and Roddenberry plots were based on ideas which had been done in sci-fi (including Star Trek) many times before. Arguably John de Lancie's magnificent scenery-chewing, and his chemistry with Patrick Stewart, was the real reason Q became such a success. If a less suitable actor had been cast in the role, I could imagine they might've never wanted to visit Q again.

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 August 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Things u learn about on stack overflow: Michael Dorn owns and flies fighter jets.

MD: It’s a dream come true. I was always a student of airplanes and aviation since I was a kid . What happened was that we had a writer’s strike after the first year of ‘Star Trek’ so we had five months off, and a guy I knew that was a pilot said come on, we’ve got to do this . You’ve got to go out there. I said you’re right. I went out there–took my introductory flight and I was hooked. Nobody could find me during the day because I was out at the airport flying. Then, to make a long story just a little bit longer, during, I think, the third or fourth season of ‘Star Trek’, one of the producers on ‘Cheers’ called me and they said that Woody Harrelson was invited to fly out with the Blue Angels, but he couldn’t do it. Do you want to go? So I flew out. They pulled me out there. I had a twin engine Cessna in between the F-18’s and parked it there. Of course, I’m the coolest guy in the world, and so when I flew with them it was eye opening. I discovered that you could own these airplanes. So I started researching it , the rules and regulations and what’s available, and all these airplanes were available for pretty cheap. So, I took my time, learned how to fly, and I went through the same type of process the air force pilots go through. And got to the F-86 and it just kinda happened. It was amazing.

angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link

that is badass, way to go worf

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:01 (six years ago) link

In an Independence Day type scenario where we have to recruit civilian pilots, Michael will be a valuable resource. Much more skilled than your average crop duster.

Jeff, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

oh man for a minute I thought he meant he'd bought a F/A-18 like the Blue Angels fly and was thinking... damn, dude, how much does Star Trek pay

mh, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 13:53 (six years ago) link

That's amazing. I love how an F-86 just happens...
I wonder if he says to himself "Perhaps today IS a good day to die!" before taking off

Also, just saw that Dax is engaged to Nimoy's son which seems nice.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

Aw cute!

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/K75un2v.jpg?1

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKBvaOLDem0

Leee Media Naranja (Leee), Sunday, 27 August 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

Lord Help Me but I've been listening to a lot of Greatest Generation and I kinda want to watch "Encounter at Farpoint" again

Hit to Death in the "Galactic Head" (kingfish), Friday, 1 September 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

Uncredited co-stars

Frank da Vinci as Brent
William Blackburn as Hadley
Howard Culver as the drunk
Adolf Hitler as Adolf Hitler

Bless you, Memory Alpha.

Germ Leee Adolescents (Leee), Sunday, 3 September 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link

Gender: Male
Species: Human
Affiliation: Nazi Germany, Earth
Rank: Führer
Occupation: Leader of Nazi Germany
Status: Deceased (20th century)

jmm, Sunday, 3 September 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

ha they used archive audio?

Nhex, Sunday, 3 September 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Somebody help me, what is the TOS episode where the crew are held hostage by a super-powerful blonde child? Or am I imagining something?

Dr Keith Assblow (stevie), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link

Charlie X?

The 2541ders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 11:34 (six years ago) link

THAT'S the one, thank you

Dr Keith Assblow (stevie), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

perhaps the first regular episode shot iirc

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link

super-powerful Howard child
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/c6/ba/6e/c6ba6e2b7e06e1e9b7b5c62cdf3a47ac--ron-howard-star-trek.jpg

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

ha they used archive audio?

Archival film footage.

Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm reading the 50th Anniversary oral history, and with so many different people trashing his writing, he comes off as pitiable. (Also, he was almost definitely a sexual predator.)

Potato Wave (Leee), Friday, 3 November 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link


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