Are there "important" Spotify playlists?

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Youtube or Spotify can lose some of the songs but the original list is easy to find in text form.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 7 July 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

i do wonder what the first playlist to be seen as artistically significant (rather than just important from a commercial/promotional standpoint) will be. i guess the way drake's more life was presented was semi-interesting but there isn't really anything particularly new about how it was released.

i think it would be legitimately a bit boundary-pushing if an artist chose to release a project as a playlist that actually had a rotating or expanding selection of tracks over the course of its promo cycle (and not just like, 'oh here's a few random tracks that i'll tack on as bonus tracks at one time several months later' which i think future did recently). there is def potential there since for many artists the 'album cycle' is already becoming a fairly obsolete method of promoting your work -- releasing a handful of tracks at a time (w/ maybe one or two having significant hit potential) could possibly be a much better strategy for such artists.

spotify is now using its 'rap caviar' brand for a concert series it's putting on: https://news.spotify.com/us/2017/06/27/spotify-kicks-off-inaugural-rapcaviar-live-concert-series-with-gucci-mane-in-atlanta/

obviously rap caviar and today's top hits are super influential rotating lists from a commercial standpoint. if i cared enough about this sort of thing i would be archiving which tracks have been on them over different points in time.

dyl, Friday, 7 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

rap caviar such an annoying name

niels, Friday, 7 July 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link

This is weird.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Friday, 7 July 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

some of those phenomena began in the itunes era (and a few even during the retail-singles era) but yeah spotify seems to be making it all so much worse

dyl, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

I'm sure there's good points in that article but the tone makes it a poor read

niels, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

compilations are pretty ephemeral too (as you know if you've ever tried to track one down)

― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine)

sure, but if i decide i want to pick up a copy of "the great twenty-eight" i'm not one day going to find that, say, "nadine" isn't there anymore due to rights issues. "Importance" requires a static text.

The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link

Footnote: I love that Spotify allows artists to share playlists. I've found some great songs through their pages. Lately been loving what Four Tet, Motor City Drum Ensemble and HNNY have shared in there.

There should be a separate thread for awesome playlists shared by artists in their spotify profiles.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 8 July 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link

When you're an obsessive fan you always want to hear the songs and sounds they're hearing as inspiration for certain albums. One of my favorite spotify feats.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 8 July 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link

Of course it's not true!

But, I do think that Vulture article brought up a weird coincidence in the cases where an "artist" only has two or three songs on Spotify and they're all on highly rotated playlists. How did they get there?

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 8 July 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

I need to give a closer read, but this is maybe better than that vulture piece?
https://www.dailydot.com/upstream/spotify-playlist-black-market/

rob, Monday, 12 March 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link

Pay to play, payola 2028 style

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:15 (six years ago) link

I'm in a funny position right now in that a tune from an old band has been added to a Spotify curated playlist, we didn't even know about it at first until some money started coming our way but we're like the seventh track in and it's had 1.4 million plays so far.

I don't know how long we will be on there for and nobody is getting rich but it's kinda mad how I'm having to start logging Spotify payments on my tax. Thankfully we own the recording and the publishing is locked so it's easy to track.

It's on a 'sleep' themed list and I guess those may be the best ones because people will hopefully nod off and even track 99 stands a decent chance of getting played through, even if it's not heard.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link

Band/track name?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:40 (six years ago) link

Rothko -Suddenly Becomes Light

MaresNest, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

in the future every spotify playlist will have a song vanish due to rights issues within fifteen minutes

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

also, i'm shocked and appalled to learn that certain Internet sites are afflicted with "bot accounts" which can be used for nefarious purposes. Spotify needs to get control of this or it could possibly lead to some real harm at some point.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link

gave you another play maresnest, bagsy a ride in your bentley sometime!

i do like rothko though, had no idea you were in them

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link

Haha, well it was a long time ago, in fact this year is the 20th anniversary, odd that a modest little tune that was only released on a compilation and recorded live to tape in about 10 mins, before the band had even really formed, should suddenly be working so hard.

MaresNest, Thursday, 15 March 2018 10:56 (six years ago) link

Huh yeah this is pretty cool! Loved Rothko back in the day, only now finding out the band started releasing again in 2015. Still play the old ones every now and again. The one with Susumu Yokota is a fave too.

Your commercial succes in the digital age is wholly deserved imo :)

Google Atheist (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link

It's a great atmospheric track, MN! What did you play on it, were you in the band for long?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

high chance that he played the bass tbh

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Thursday, 15 March 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link

Ha, right!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 15 March 2018 15:22 (six years ago) link

congrats on your 40 cents MaresNest :)

frogbs, Thursday, 15 March 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

Oh, you're all very kind :)

To quickly answer, on that track, I sampled Mark's lovely Yamaha fretless bass, pitched it down and made some different loops to fade in and Mark - who is the main guy behind Rothko and still is - just played, very beautifully, off the top of his head for a bit and we recorded/mixed it straight to a DAT, I worked full time in a recording studio so we were allowed to use it out of hours, a lot of Rothko tracks were done there.

So I"m not on the bass for this one Gerald, it was our second ever session. Before we had played a gig or got Jon, our third member, involved in the band.

Jon, Mark and I were the original triple bass only line up, from about 1997 to 2000 iirc, then we amicably split and Mark carried on - as he still does to this day - with various other folks, he and I made a couple of records together a few years ago as well.

MaresNest, Thursday, 15 March 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

I bloody love those first few Rothko records. I shall listen lots and pour money into your coffers.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 15 March 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link


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