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this thread hasn't been a pure moment of magic, joy and communion to you ?
i feel sadness and empathy for you jaded ilxor...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, Internet is still such a new thing (to me at least) that the sort of ethical guidelines I have with normal everyday interaction feel muddled here. I wouldn't make nasty comments about a random stranger on the street, why is it okay here? I dunno, someone help me out.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

What would you suppose he'd really think if he'd find this thread? Thankfully there are some nice thoughts here as well.

well, first, the friends of Diehl don't even know Wayne so the chances of him finding the thread are very thin. and then, our thoughts about him have evolved a lot along the thread and he comes off as a fairly nice guy compared to the others, no ?

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't make nasty comments about a random stranger on the street, why is it okay here?

ah, maybe that's where you differ from all the people here ?
that said, it's true that it was more harmless (and arguably, more fun) when we had no idea about these people. when they weren't "real".

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

They know - scroll up a little on this thread and you'll find this link to their board where someone created a new topic about this thread:

http://diehliniraq.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=67
-- tehresa (boringstandardaddres...), February 1st, 2006 12:38 AM. (tehresa)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think morality works that way that everything's okay if "he doesn't find out" - we should have certain principles whether or not anyone finds out we've broken them. And even if Wayne comes out as a nice guy compared to the others, why is it okay to criticize them, then? What do we know about these people.

(Don't take these comments too seriously, I'm sorta playing the devil's advocate here, but I think in general these are interesting and important issues.)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

i know they know about the thread, i meant they don't know wayne !
and Tuomas, i didn't say it was ok because they wouldn't find out, but that it was when more fun (and ok) when they weren't "real" people, we knew nothing about them and we were just bitching randomly.
(and besides, sometimes we are just mean, i guess !).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

This could very well be the only thread like this ever.

Now we know that the subjects of our presumed anonymous pictures can be found and find out about us, we're never going to be as spontaneous about this kind of thing ever again.

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

So, if you will: a weekly occurrence of this kind of thing: so not gonna happen.

(lock, print out and hang on wall now)

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link

#1 - This thread was way more fun before we got the additional pictures.
#2 - ... Oh, there was a #2, but I forgot it.
#3 - I kinda feel sorry for Wayne, even though I don't play video games or go to Hooters.

Dave will do (dave225.3), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

#1 - This thread was way more fun before we got the additional pictures.

yeah but it was kinda necessary that we got them in order to make this thread that perfect and kill it.
as it stands, it's kind of a work of art (sophie calle style) !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

no wait, to really end it we'd have to have a post from them (cos i don't think they've checked the info put on their board yet).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, you're right. That or a c&d from their lawyer.

StanM (StanM), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

well, they put their pics on public access, so...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

#1 - This thread was way more fun before we got the additional pictures.
yeah but it was kinda necessary that we got them in order to make this thread that perfect and kill it.
as it stands, it's kind of a work of art (sophie calle style) !

-- AleXTC (alexandre...) (webmail), Today 8:29 AM. (AleXTC) (later) (link)

i agree. there has to be some sort of end to it, closure if you will. we cant go on endlessly speculating, even if that was the most fun. we'd sort of gotten to the end of the line given what was revealed in the original picture.

i love how on that other message board they call him wayne too.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't make nasty comments about a random stranger on the street

wtf? you don't snigger at ugly and/or badly dressed people on the street with your mates??? are you ned flanders?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

HI DIDDLY H...oh wait

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

HI NED

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Everyone who counts loves Ned Flanders.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

why not have people email roxy pics and then she can post one a week? if she doesn't want to do it, someone else can

This is good. Mail possibilities to my email address below. I'll do one every Monday (maybe every other).

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone ever note that the bottom of Wayne's left pant leg is wet?

Dude finally got back to me about how he found it on google:


Re: IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN DUDE


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hahahah original caption is:
Awkward moment after an imaginary threesome.

Do a google image search for the word "awkward". You'll find the original pic about halfway down the page.

Then check out the page it comes from. It's called Diehl-in-Iraq. Apparently this party was one for a kid who is now in Iraq.

There is a folder by a girl, forget her name, and these pics come from her folder. There are several.

You're welcome.


RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf? you don't snigger at ugly and/or badly dressed people on the street with your mates??? are you ned flanders?

Er, no. I think laughing at random people because of their appearance is rather nasty, I didn't know it was a common type of behaviour or anything.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone ever note that the bottom of Wayne's left pant leg is wet?

Yes, this was stated very early on!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

wow there's loads of em

Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

xxpost

it's not just laughing at their appearance, it's the whole art of people watching. it's laughing at what you speculate is their entire motivation and raison d'être!

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Could someone summarise what exactly is known about "Wayne"? Even after wading through 600 odd posts he remains a tantalising mystery to me, a far more opaque character than Diehl. Do we know his real name? What his relationship to Diehl is? Any other concrete information?

Sarah B, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

We don't! That's why I was surprised that people were so quick to close the book on this thread.

Although I could be asking the very same questions about YOU, mystery ILXor (I've surmised that you're British because of "summarise" -- what else do we know about Sarah B?)...

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm afraid I shall remain forever a mystery to you, jaymc.

Sarah B., Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought we surmised his real name was Bill.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Er, no. I think laughing at random people because of their appearance is rather nasty, I didn't know it was a common type of behaviour or anything.
-- Tuomas (lixnix...), February 1st, 2006 4:07 PM. (Tuomas) (later) (link)

what if you see a really ugly building? would you tell your friend "good lord that's an ugly building"?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Bill was another guy. I still think that Wayne's real name is Tommy Loftus.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

hm.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I thought we surmised his real name was Bill

I think the Bill thing came from the fact that one of the photos with him not in it was captioned "Where the hell is Bill?" or something, but it's not 100% positive that he's the Bill missing from the pic.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link

it's totally wayne.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

totally wayne, dude!! *doodoodododooldoodloelodldodol

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

His last name is definitely Loftus.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

rooney

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

PP, I don't know where you're getting "Tommy" from. Are you confusing him with Diehl's friend Tom Turnbull?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"totally wayne, dude!! *doodoodododooldoodloelodldodol "

i thought we established that it was "totally wayne, BRO!!"

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

There was a myspace link up there where a friend of Diehl's made mention of The Syrup Kid, Tommy Loftus. Maybe they've got more than one Loftus in their pack. It is Pennsylvania after all.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, good work, PP.

The comment is from Tommy Turnbull (who in another post compliments a roast-beef sandwich that Glen made for him, which on the wrapper was scrawled "Tommy T - No Tax"):

The Syrup Kid, glen, was none other than the shadeball Tommy Loftus. Well we should set somethin up this summer where we get some old friends and party it up. Rock on \W/

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link

But how do you know this Tommy Loftus is Wayne?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Because some of the filenames in the Diehl in Iraq photo album identified him as "loftus" -- for example "andy_loftus.jpg." (Andy being the other person in the photo.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

There are five Loftuses in Drexel Hill, PA, on whitepages.com, including one Tom and another Thomas Jr.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Because he's referred to as "Loftus" in the galleries. The only lead we've got that his first name is Tommy comes from what jaymc just posted.

xpost

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Really, I think he looks like a Kevin.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Jaymc, I dare you to call Thomas Jr and ask if he or his son has a King of Prussia Hooters shirt.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link

dooo it jaymc!!!!

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

If I had a private office, I would.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm still intrigued to hear the answer to my buildings question

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link


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