Was actually on a Tool kick after attending a goth themed birthday party where, by the end of it, the DJs just kept dropping Tool and NIN tracks. 10,000 days surprised me - I recalled liking it more than Lateralus. Felt more emotionally charged. Aenima + Lateralus + 10,000 Days is a hell of a trilogy with the latter album being a solid "Eulogy" for the band. Probably fitting they don't release any more music at this point.
― octobeard, Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
'Throw that Bob Marley wannabe motherfucker outta here'.
I'd love a Tool track poll. I'd probably go for Pushit. Or Third Eye. Or Lateralus. Or Crawl Away. Or...
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, July 6, 2017 8:21 AM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
listen, i went through everything, and "jimmy" is the best tool song
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
I'm not gonna argue (well, I am). Just a thought, but Eleven off Stranger Things isn't an oblique Tool reference, is it?
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 6 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
Or a Dead reference. Or Primus.I assume they are working on a new album. they've been touring and Maynard is going to tour A Perfect Circle, so either they are getting their voice and chops in order, or they've just been sharpened and they want to show them off.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
I really should catch them live again, been too long.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
One of favourite gig memories is them opening with Third Eye at the old Astoria, with Maynard painted entirely blue and eyes drawn all down his spine.In that same gig, someone charged the stage and Maynard threw him, pinned him to the deck and didn't miss a note.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
I took my dad to see Tool.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 July 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link
My preferred 10,000 Days tracklist:
1. Vicarious2. Wings for Marie, Part 13. 10,000 Days (Wings, Part 2)4. Lipan Conjuring5. Jambi6. Intension7. Right in Two
This keeps the original structure of two almost-equal halves divided by that little rain dance, but loses the silly 'The Pot', 'Lost Keys' and the very boring 'Rosetta Stoned' which just goes on and on but never goes anywhere.
Pretty much a perfect album in this configuration.
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 July 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
i like that a lot!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 9 July 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
I think I'd cut it down more than that, maybe
1. Wings for Marie, Part 12. 10,000 Days (Wings, Part 2)3. Lipan Conjuring4. Intension5. Right in Two
That would make a consistent 37-minute psychedelic Tool album and be kind of like one long piece.
― jmm, Sunday, 9 July 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
[Waiting for the joker who only wants to keep 'Lipan Conjuring'...]
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 July 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
don't cut "jambi"!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 9 July 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
Or 'Vicarious'. Their best single since 'Stinkfist'.
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 9 July 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
Great band. But are you all forgetting 10,000 Days on purpose?
Nah, I don't really consider it in the same league as their other work.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 9 July 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
it's time now, give me my wiiiiiiiiiiiiings
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 9 July 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link
SHIT THE BED AGAIN
― the ghost of markers, Sunday, 9 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
Tool is fine, but Puscifer is Fun!
― bodacious ignoramus, Sunday, 9 July 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
10,000 Days rules. I saw them a year after it came out, it was sick, they opened with "Jambi" and Melt Banana opened.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 9 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
think I'd cut it down more than that, maybe
― jmm, Sunday, July 9, 2017 8:28 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i do love that you sort of made the ambient tool album here
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 9 July 2017 23:15 (six years ago) link
Maynard on the Joe Rogan podcast - http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/maynard-james-keenan-2
The Tool writing process was new to me, in that Danny, Adam and Justin clearly take aaages to write, and this clearly frustrates Maynard - to the point that he basically leaves them to it, and waits until the foundations are laid before adding his writing. Also didn't know he'd had a new hip. And owned a restaurant.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
I love how he was talking about EMP bombs/asteroids in the context of preferring vinyl to CD/digital lmao
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
Watched part of this really crappy cheap-o Amazon Prime Tool documentary last night
https://www.amazon.com/Tool-Ultimate-Review-MVD/dp/B003D0BZQC
anyway, super low budget, obv nobody talked to them except these LA scenester dudes
but anyway big thing I didn't know was that Tool grew out of Green Jelly???
it actually makes a weird kind of sense
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 September 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
some serious accusations against Maynard
Deep breath. I have to anonymously tell this story because I tried to tell it from my real account and couldn't name him directly out of fear, so I deleted the tweets. Here goes: I was 17 and he was 36. 1/— Iwas17HeWas36 (@IWas17HeWas36) June 23, 2018
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link
"Later on, I heard from a male friend that he did this in every city, at every show."
Horrifying.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link
I posted about this on rolling metal but probably best to discuss here - couldn't bump it on Flagging
― Simon H., Monday, 25 June 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link
I actually got in an argument with someone re: groupies or alleged-groupies in the MeToo era, and she for some reason differentiated them from the abuses of power in the news. I think her argument was that groupies aren't being taken advantage in the same way because they have nothing to gain, nothing professional at stake. And I said that's bullshit, because it's still a matter of men using their power to take advantage of girls and women, however "consensual" it may appear in the abstract.
Anyway, this does not sound remotely consensual, and sounds as horrifying as it seems entirely plausible.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link
Sadly related, but I just went back and brushed up on the allegations made about Isaac Brock and Conor Oberst and, though the allegations were eventually dropped/recanted in both cases, I wonder if things would be different in 2018 vs. 1999 and 2014 respectively.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 June 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
What do you think would have happened differently, based on how those cases played out?
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link
(I don’t recall many specifics of either case, which is why I ask)
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 25 June 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link
I just wonder if the onus would have shifted to Brock and Oberst to prove concretely that the incidents did not happen (or happen the way they were portrayed) instead of just the general assumption by fans/etc from day one that the allegations were false (especially Brock's allegations in 1999, which now is almost 20 years ago).
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link
The oberst one was a rare case that iirc was more or less debunked
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link
Brock's a little hazier, not a lot of specifics I've seen
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
Based on what little information has survived about the Brock story, it resembles the Aziz Ansari story from a few months ago, but taken further.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link
The onus was on Oberst, wasn't it? And it was totally debunked, iirc, and also fucked him up for a couple of years, and forever ties him to the allegation. But yeah, that sort of revelation is a rarity. Brock, yeah, I'm not even sure what happened there, what the ultimate outcome was. He talks about it here:
https://www.avclub.com/modest-mouse-1798208359#
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link
It affected both of them a fair deal when it happened & would destroy their careers today
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link
Whether or not they were innocent
The good news is that Tool fans will now have a whole new way to be the fucking worst.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 01:37 (five years ago) link
Allegations against Paul Weller and Mick Hucknall were treated like PR blips at the time and are largely forgotten
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link
Legit media doesn't seem to be picking up on this yet.
― how's life, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link
Still a relatively now number of RTs - notably, for whatever reason, she neglected to use the MeToo hashtag, which probably would have made it a bigger deal faster.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 26 June 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
yea I'm kinda surprised this hasn't picked up but I assume later today it probably will
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
The fact that it is anonymous may limit the degree to which it is reported.
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
...But it may lead to others coming forward with similar stories (like the one on Reddit).
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
David letterman seems to have got away with this bullshit pretty good
― mind how you go (Ross), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
?
― i’m still stanning (morrisp), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/01/why-does-david-letterman-get-a-pass-despite-past-s.html
― mind how you go (Ross), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
In re to earlier discussion itt
― mind how you go (Ross), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
You know - David Lettercomebackstagewithoutherboyfriendman.
― how's life, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link
I'm not really surprised this hasn't picked up, if only because it almost definitely happens with many, MANY musicians
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 26 June 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
a lot of these stories about musicians were getting picked up for a while
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 June 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link