Steven Spielberg - classic or dud

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or heaven forbid a sequel

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind? Close Encounters of the Second Third Kind?

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

The Adventures of Richard Dreyfuss Across the 8th Dimension

Cannibal Adderley (WilliamC), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

Close Encounters of the Second Kind, wherein we learn how they became close encounters.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

closer encounters of the third kind

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

oooof, I was hoping that'd prove to be one of his vaporware projects

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 July 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

Only possible silver lining here is that Cline is such an absolutely god-awful writer that Spielberg can only make the material better. Maybe?

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 14 July 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

Took me a second to realize what I was watching was the auto-play Toyota ad and not a trailer.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 July 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

Some confirmation that Spielberg directed Poltergeist.

Eazy, Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

Peter Benchley was a lousy writer too, i think

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link

xpost I mean, there was never really much question in my mind. It's not like any other Hooper film I've seen, but it's super Spielbergian.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Saturday, 15 July 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

filmmakers have been known to produce something different when they get the biggest budget of their lives... and Spielberg was always credited with the story and as co-writer.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 July 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

The clearest proof that Spielberg did the heavy lifting (beyond being involved in every single step of the production) is that so many of Hooper's movies both before and after are virtually inept, with the almost accidental brilliance of "Chainsaw." I mean, on either side of "Poltergeist" is "Eaten Alive" and "Lifeforce," which both suuuuuuck. Just about everything he's done has been ugly and sloppy, with the glaring exception of machine-precise "Poltergeist."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

Salem's Lot smuggled in some eptitude. So did The Funhouse, despite the production problems. He isn't a worthless filmmaker. It's just that Poltergeist is unquestionably a Spielberg film. I used to think otherwise, that Hooper and Spielberg battling for supremacy resulted in a fascinatingly schizo family horror movie. But Spielberg in that era was already dealing in some serious kindertrauma.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

Salem's Lot was, at best, ept, but Funhouse - a movie I've inexplicably seen a bunch - is pretty dull. His movies are just ugly and underlit and shot poorly, and that's before the acting and script.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 July 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

lifeforce is entertainingly tolerable if you set yrself up to expect a late-70s hammer reboot of the quatermass x-periment

(lol i saw it at its london film festival debut, when it was given a very grand opening in a swanky leicester square cinema, as TH's star was at that point very high: oops)

mark s, Saturday, 15 July 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

Ha. Yeah, and that was his post Poltergeist big bugdet shot. Oops indeed.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 July 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Amazing Stories episode 'The Mission', starring Kevin Costner and Kiefer Sutherland, is some damn fine Spielberg.

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link

Big Lebowski might be the Coens' best movie...
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:36 AM (twelve years ago) Bookmark

A pod person was posting as me back in 2005.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

I remember watching "The Mission" when it first aired, and my dad was def disappointed at the fantastical turn things took. ("It's called Amazing Stories...")

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

Taken out of the context of the series' conceit, I can definitely understand that. The forty minutes leading up to the resolution are a great tension build. I wish Spielberg would do more suspense pictures. It's one of his strongest suits, imo.

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:26 (six years ago) link

is "the Mission" the one with the fighter plane that grows cartoon wheels so it can land

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

wow I had forgotten how crazy the directors' list for that series was

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

SPOILER shakes

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link

xposts Yes, that's the one.

Watching this series for the first time in 30+ years is wigging me out a little because bits and pieces of it had strongly imprinted themselves on my pre-adolescent brain without me ever realizing where this random assortment of images had come from.

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

oops sorry I ruined the plot of an episode of a 30 yo children's tv show my bad

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

Monster, imo.

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

a children's tv show, huh

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

so much ronging

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

After I blow through this series, I'm interested in revisiting some of the other projects from that era which Spielberg was tangentially involved with (e.g. *batteries not included, which was apparently originally intended to be an Amazing Stories episode). He seems to have been trying to curate a particular Spielbergian feel across everything emblazoned with his producer credit (the Williams-scored whimsy and wonder of suburbia intersecting with the fantastic, with just a sprinkling of coke-heightened overacting).

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

the Williams-scored whimsy and wonder of suburbia intersecting with the fantastic, with just a sprinkling of coke-heightened overacting

kill me now

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

One of the reasons the episode I mentioned is so good is that it largely eschewed those tendencies that he clung to so tenaciously through at least, what, Hook?

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

I don't think Empire of the Sun fits that mold, pilgrim

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

There's something about that tendency that I find ineffably appealing, despite (or maybe because of) how cloyingly sentimental it sometimes is. There's something almost sinister about it. Some of these Amazing Stories episodes (a lot of which have at least a story credit for Spielberg) have this weird artificial sheen that almost feels like the grotesque depictions of humanity from a contemporaneous David Lee Roth video. I feel like there's a weird continuum from Spielberg's '80s sensibility to Joe Dante to, like EC Comics. The mundane overexposed into horrifying cartoonishness.

xpost Yes, I immediately remembered outliers like Empire and The Color Purple after I posted.

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

p sure I've said this before - Empire of the Sun is great except for the score, which is godawful

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

i'd remind you OL that the 'wonder of suburbia' generally included divorce, isolation, sometimes poltergeists!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

Yes! It is horror as viewed through the gauzy haze of nostalgia.

Chock Full of Love and Sexy Feeling (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

two months pass...
one month passes...
one month passes...

I appreciate this alternate history.

Haha holy shit, my wife thought Steven Spielberg directed Maximum Overdrive. She thought, at the height of his career, Spielberg got so addicted to coke that he made Maximum Overdrive, and then was so ashamed that he sobered up from then on. I wish that was true. So hard.

— Robert Brockway (@Brockway_LLC) January 7, 2018

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link

meanwhile Emilio Estevez goes on to write and direct The Post starring Ally Sheedy as Katherine Graham and Judd Nelson as Bradlee.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

Replace 'Maximum Overdrive' with 'Hook' and that tweet is basically otm.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

I don't think I've seen Minority Report in 15 years. Held up better than I remembered, if only because it was so much more of a Hitchcock homage than I remembered, not just the wrong man motif, but overt references, like individual shots and set pieces. Was pretty cool, my daughter dug it.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 03:47 (five years ago) link

Haven't seen since it was released, so its due for a rewatch. I suspect, however, that my main problem with the film--the ugly-as-hell cinematography--will only be amplified now.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 November 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link

It's super ugly, almost to the point of confrontational. There's a shot that transcends lens flare, essentially just pointing the camera at the sun. But the effects are pretty good and the retina-scanning ads and whatnot of the future pretty close to fruition. Plus, it's often darkly comical, even slapstick at times, which also seems sort of Hitchcocky.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 November 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Spielberg shoots the incredible musical number that opens TEMPLE OF DOOM. pic.twitter.com/ivijLcuIEV

— Nick de Semlyen (@NickdeSemlyen) November 17, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steven-spielberg-sons-debut-feature-honeydew-heading-berlin-1279391

Honeydew, the New England-set horror starring Steven Spielberg's son Sawyer Spielberg in his introductory role ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 February 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Exit The Warrior/Steven's Son, Sawyer

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 15 February 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link


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