B-52s: Classic or Dud.

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Topaz is one of my top 20 songs of all time. One of the prettiest melodies ever recorded.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 22:32 (six years ago) link

It's a truly beautiful song. I hadn't heard it until the other day.

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 11:40 (six years ago) link

have i ever weighed in on this thread that Dirty Back Road is the best B-52s song? if not, here i am, and it is

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link

I think there could be compelling arguments for so many B-52s songs to be the best B-52s song.

Did you hear the Veruca Salt song from two years ago that references Dirty Back Road in the chorus though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMeYDS9kZcE

how's life, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

ha no! unsurprisingly the best part of the song by about a million miles!

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

They were here in concert on Sunday but I didn't go. I thought about about starting a TS: B-52s vs. King Crimson, since they were here recently too, and I didn't go to that either. Seemingly polar opposites, prog vs. new wave, both hugely influential to me in their heydays, both led me into rabbit holes of unfamiliar music (KC: classical and jazz, B-52s: surf music and Henry Mancini.) And I don't listen to either a whole lot these days, although I always love 'em when I do.

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

Glove slap, baby, glove slap.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

Fripp played in the B-52s once!

http://www.elephant-talk.com/wiki/Interview_with_Robert_Fripp_in_Best

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

whoa and The Screamers?!?!?

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

damn

sleeve, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

Ruby Ray JUST posted all her pics of the night Fripp played with The Screamers https://www.facebook.com/ruby.ray.752/posts/10214036279682579?pnref=story

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

saw them last night in L.A. -- they still sound amazing. It wasn't a super long set, they were on a bill w/OMD and Berlin (Berlin was decent, only caught the last couple songs, OMD was astonishing as per usual), but they played all the key hits. Rock Lobster closed it out. They had someone in a lobster suit dancing around onstage with them. good times!

omar little, Monday, 5 August 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

Cool. Was Tracy W on bass?

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 5 August 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

yep! that band was super tight.

omar little, Monday, 5 August 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

"Some say she's from Mars or one of the seven stars that shine after 3:30 in the morning. WELL, SHE ISN'T!" just jumped out at me. Never really noticed the last part before.

Listening at work, no one can see me laughing under this COVID mask.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 18 June 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I only just noticed this morning that for their formative (pre-mainstream) days, the B-52s didn't have a bassist!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

There's a Bass in the Band (And It's Called the Bass)

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:25 (two years ago) link

the gypsies had no home and the b-52s had no bass

na (NA), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:53 (two years ago) link

iirc ricky wilson tuned the bottom two strings down, removed the middle two strings, and played "bass" on the low strings simultaneously with guitar on the high strings.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

A number of songs are CFxxFF, where x is missing string.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

and Kate Pierson handled the rest on her keyboard xpost

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

I just tried experimenting with the CFxxFF tuning for the first time, and it's amazing! Taking the bottom strings down that far makes them ridiculously slack and floppy, but you instantly get *that* sound. (I'm guessing Ricky used thicker gauge strings for this?) And then tuning the top two to the same F is similarly weird, but it is the magical sound of the "down! down!" part of "Rock Lobster." The way he combined bass parts and lead parts on only four strings was wonderfully eccentric and original.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link

yeah, that's amazing! i didn't know that at all

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

I would assume one would be playing mostly unison on the top two strings, rather than a lot of minor and major seconds?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

Yes, the "down!" riff is literally just placing one finger over both strings at the 12th fret, descending each step down the fretboard. The two unison strings create a sort of wavery sound, probably aided by just a touch of reverb, and voila.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

“Without anything but the love we feel”

calstars, Sunday, 24 March 2024 03:13 (three weeks ago) link

otm

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2024 04:17 (three weeks ago) link

bought "Good Stuff" on CD at Half Price today, but listened to another acquisition ("Chorus" by Erasure) on the way home instead

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 24 March 2024 05:03 (three weeks ago) link

Waiting for bus number 99
Goin to the store for hot dogs and wine

brimstead, Sunday, 24 March 2024 15:13 (three weeks ago) link

A number of songs are CFxxFF, where x is missing string.

― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, October 6, 2021 8:25 AM

imagine if he had gotten his hands on one of those guitars with moveable frets.

interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 24 March 2024 15:38 (three weeks ago) link

Cracked case copies of Good Stuff (probably harvested from long boxes) were staples of late-'90s Walmart cutout bins.

yeah, that album was made for cutout bins.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2024 16:48 (three weeks ago) link

I remember buying it the day it was released at Peaches Records in Seattle and being disappointed.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 17:26 (three weeks ago) link

I remember spending a summer almost wearing my cassette copy of Good Stuff out, even though I knew in my heart that it wasn’t quite as awesome of the prior album

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:06 (three weeks ago) link

This one's been stuck in my head all weekend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpKEzFZYqBg

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:16 (three weeks ago) link

It’s a good track. The 9 minute Shep Pettibone one works really nicely if you are a fan of 80s extended mixes.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 24 March 2024 18:42 (three weeks ago) link

nice, thanks, I do love extended 80s/90s mixes

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 24 March 2024 19:29 (three weeks ago) link

I like the Good Stuff remix too

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:06 (three weeks ago) link

I had Bouncing Off the Satellites on tape in high school (I took my car in for service and it was in the cassette player when I picked it up) and I think it's kinda slept on... has some of their very best songs (Summer of Love, Ain't It a Shame, Girl from Ipanema, Wig). She Brakes for Rainbows kinda points the way to Cosmic Thing, too.

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:21 (three weeks ago) link

yeah it's a solid LP imo, better than Whammy (which, in turn, sounded MUCH better when I revisited it recently)

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:27 (three weeks ago) link

Bouncing Off The Satellites has been out of print for ages. Don't remember ever seeing a copy in the UK.

Good Stuff forms part an extremely incongruous 2-for-1 CD package.

https://countrymusicusa.com/cdn/shop/products/20190320_123_740x.jpg

Wry & Slobby (Portsmouth Bubblejet), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:40 (three weeks ago) link

Ahahaha!

Well, there are too many horn arrangements on Good stuff imo

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:43 (three weeks ago) link

That’s the Blood, Sweat and Tears album where Fred Schneider joined as lead singer

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 24 March 2024 20:44 (three weeks ago) link

Revisiting Whammy a few days ago, I was struck by how tinny and crudely programmed those sequencers and drums are. The songs are okay.

By contrast, Bouncing Off the Satellites bounce off the walls. "Ain't It a Shame" is their Secret Best Song. Sinead O'Connor killed it a decade ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUF5mrKUOVA

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 March 2024 21:08 (three weeks ago) link

can't be doing with any version of that song that doesn't have the Galaga samples

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 24 March 2024 21:23 (three weeks ago) link

I totally love Whammy. Alfred, have you heard Plastics? I’ve written this elsewhere but the second time I saw the B-52s Plastics toured with them, and I’ve long thought the “tinny” rhythms on Whammy may have been Plastics-inspired. That period after Wild Planet that yielded Party Mix and Mesopotamia they were obviously casting about for what to do next.

I thought Bouncing off the Satellites was a minor letdown on release, but I’ve come to love that as well. It lacks anything that rocks me like “Trism” or “Queen of Las Vegas” though.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:00 (three weeks ago) link

…which is crazy because Plastics were certainly inspired by the B-52s; Whammy seems to me like returning the favor.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:11 (three weeks ago) link

I think I've said it before, but I love the Mesopotamia outtake version of Queen of Las Vegas (from the Nude on the Moon anthology):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4SAclO9JAE

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:12 (three weeks ago) link

Absolutely, it’s wonderful. I wish there were more outtakes like that, but there really aren’t.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 24 March 2024 22:16 (three weeks ago) link


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