Trident is an incredible album, my favorite of the six or seven tyners I know
Enlightenment pretty sick too
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
I picked Trident up by chance a while back and it's become a favorite. Celeste & harpsichord! At the same time! Not to mention a reunion with Elvin Jones.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
Over on the music to get sober to topic, we had a small McCoy Tyner discussion going. I've only three of his leader albums: The Real McCoy, Enlightenment, and Supertrios. Enlightenment is, far and away, the best of them. I've always been really intimidated by the size of his catalogue as a leader, so I've stuck with those three for years.
― Austin, Monday, 3 July 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
just listen to it once earlier, but the latest Benito Gonzalez lp: Passion Reverence Transcendence - The Music of McCoy Tyner sounded rather good.
― calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
thread bump of fear
but yeah one day i need to actually properly dig into his catalogue, there's a lot of it and i haven't heard anything bad yet
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
He looks too healthy and busy to die yet, famous last words.
― calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
I know a guy who hates Benito, says he a one trick pony, but I think he’s great.
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
I thought I heard multiple tricks!
― calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
Ha, yeah exactly
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
Back in March I reviewed all 19 albums he recorded in the 1970s, first on Blue Note and then on Milestone:
Part 1Part 2Part 3Part 4Part 5
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 28 May 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link
damn, good runthrough, this might be what finally gets me into '70s tyner
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Monday, 28 May 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link
Trident rules super hard
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 28 May 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
Tyner played with a ton of great musicians and like many of his era in jazz, there are other great appearances as a sideman. The couple of mid 60s records he did with Joe Henderson are worth checking out, as the tunes have a different groove than the Coltrane band.
― earlnash, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
thanks for that link phil, love the few 70s mccoy albums i own and am always up for more
― Total Goat Rodeo (stevie), Monday, 28 May 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
"Trident" and "Fly To The Wind" : two of my favorite Sunday morning back-to-back listens
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 May 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
Fly With The WindI actually used to put that title track on mix tapes for people when I was a teen. I'd completely forgotten though.. need to go give it a listen
― kinder, Monday, 28 May 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
Song Of The New World is incredible as well, probably my fave of his 70's period.
― calzino, Monday, 28 May 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
I haven't heard much of Tyner's Impulse stuff as a leader, but his BN run is good to great and his Milestone run is nothing short of incredible. I think having a sympathetic, creative producer in Orrin Keepnews did a lot toward keeping him sounding fresh over a nearly a decade of two releases a year.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link
Fly With The Wind
OMG thank you guys so much for recommending this. Instant favorite.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
still think Passion Reverence Transcendence: The Music of McCoy Tyner by Benito Gonzalez is really excellent, so uplifting.
― calzino, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
good god do not scare me with this revive like that
I just heard Tender Moments for the first time the other day. Basically Tyner with Lee Morgan's band right? Great stuff, but why expect anything else? His standard of quality over the years was amazingly high.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
Seriously.
And yeah, Tender Moments is amazing. Rarely has an album so totally failed to live up to its title. That thing smokes.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 8 November 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
saw this revive and felt sick to my stomach
will check the benito
― budo jeru, Thursday, 8 November 2018 01:05 (five years ago) link
Basically whenever I'm in a record shop I check if they have any McCoy Tyner, and if I don't have it I buy it, and I'm never disappointed
― Jacob Lohl (stevie), Thursday, 8 November 2018 10:33 (five years ago) link
Not to mention he’s usually light on the wallet
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 10 November 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link
RIP to the great one. What a career, what music.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 6 March 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link
Ugh. RIP
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 March 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link
oh man no. RIP
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 6 March 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
damn
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 6 March 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link
Whenever I dip back into 70s prog and fusion, I hope it will sound this elegant and catchy, but it's too high a bar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZIXDTH-sLA
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 6 March 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
man there was no one on earth like this guy
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 6 March 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
Guy in WKCR just switched over in the middle of Elvin Live at the Lighthouse to a McCoy-led project featuring Elvin and Alice Coltrane.
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
After thirty seconds of silence of course
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
Just got into his catalogue not too long and now he's gone. Damn damn damn. RIP
― ascai, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
Stack those fourths til you get all the way up to heaven
― ascai, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link
Extensions
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
Love this footage of Tyner with Roland Kirk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiI2ZHmxPPo
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
Check the rollneck!
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link
First there is his melodic inventiveness and along with that the clarity of his ideas. He also gets a very personal sound from his instrument. In addition, McCoy has an exceptionally well developed sense of form, both as a soloist and accompanist. Invariably, in our group, he will take a tune and build his own structure for it. He is always looking for the most personal way of expressing himself. And finally, McCoy has taste. He can take anything, no matter how weird, and make it sound beautiful.
Coltrane from the notes on his Inception lp.
― calzino, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link
Inception is the only one I own, bought at random. one of those record I'm always in the mood to listen to
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
I have this 3CD Mosaic box from 2007 that gathers up Expansions, Extensions (the one with Alice Coltrane), Asante and Cosmos. And then I have digital copies a bunch more. I interviewed him once, in 2008 or so, when he made the album Guitars; it was a very awkward encounter, because he really didn't like talking about his work. I went out of my way to not go the "so tell me about John Coltrane!" route, but he just wasn't into it.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 6 March 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link
RIP
I love the front cover of Sahara, and the track Rebirth is as fire as anything he ever recorded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoGMQMl77A&list=PL5A83E4A2F654F95B&index=5&t=0s
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 6 March 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link
I love both his 60's and 70's period, not familiar with his 80's + beyond period, apart that rather lovely duo he did with Stephane Grappelli in '90.
― calzino, Friday, 6 March 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link
oh boy
― ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
Song of the New World as well, what an album.
― calzino, Friday, 6 March 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWYWgda5f0I
seeing this performance of 'my favourite things' was such a mind-opener when i first encountered it - not just mccoy obv, but those rumbling clouds of sound were completely soul-stirring for me and the thing i think about most when i hear him play
― ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link
I found the story I wrote on him in 2009, based on the interview I mentioned above; here's a link for anyone interested.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
Damn, knew it was coming eventually. A force of nature, it's almost wild to think of him and Elvin in the same rhythm section, I wonder who pushed who further.
I went back through his records a few months ago now that they're all on Spotify (and used to be SO hard to find), so many underrated gems.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link
Legend. You listen to a bit of jazz piano and McCoy Tyner definitely had a singular sound. That Coltrane quartet had such a sympathetic nature, there are moments where John leads and there were parts when Elvin pushed but how Tyner would react to Trane in how he placed those chords sometimes in accompaniment was literally the bit that seemed to take the intensity over the top and raise the hairs on the back of the neck for listeners on those sax solos. I suppose some of it is similar to those extended intervals that Bill Evans and other would use, but Tyner would have such a unique way of rhythmically playing those chords. I'd say how how soloed with chords is a big part of that unique sound.
I've not heard but a sliver of Tyner's total recorded output, but I got to figure anything he ever played upon is worth hearing.
― earlnash, Friday, 6 March 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
fucking Trident slays me every single timeRip
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link