brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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You make it sound like they are somehow innocent + oblivious to the fact that social housing tenants are getting lied to and getting one-way tickets out of their homes and London, when they actually know very well that is happening under their schemes.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

Where I lived in Walthamstow there were accusations about the local Labour councillors being slum landlords, corruption, etc. I get the impression that this is pretty common across the country, that local government is full of corrupt scumbags. The party they are in seems to be irrelevant.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 3 July 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link

I remember reading somewhere last year that nearly a quarter of Labour MPs were landlords and many of them with multiple London props on their portfolios. Which is a separate issue really, but fuck these bozos.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link

Breaking: @DavidLammy @CatherineWest1 have this morning written a joint letter to @ClaireKober asking her to "pause" HDV plans (1/n)

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 3, 2017

Well at least this might be some good news for once.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link

Wow @ that article. Takes no prisoners. Thank god he's around.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Monday, 3 July 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

It looks like it might have have actually made a difference as well.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

Lol! Is Keith Flett (mentioned on here the other day) really still going? I don't know if it's fake but there is a twitter acct in his name with "Stakhanovite epistolarian" in his biog.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

chakrabortty's been writing abt the HDV before but i think the shape and dynamic of such things has actually changed since grenfell and also lammy has decided to be seen to be on fire about it

re flett: he's definitely on twitter, i have friends who post abt beer (and beards) and flett is in their larger circle

(don't know if he's still a swuppie since the split in 2013)

mark s, Monday, 3 July 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link

Chakrabortty liveblogging on the Haringey council meeting suggests that "zombie-blairite councillors" is probably way too kind an
epithet for some of these fuckers.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link

Councillor Goldberg responds to deputation that an Asian centre (Bangladeshi, by the names) will be made homeless pic.twitter.com/Dd6gkleRAf

— Aditya Chakrabortty (@chakrabortty) July 3, 2017

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

Most heartbreaking moment: After being told they'll be homeless and that there's nowhere for them to go, the Asian centre thanks the council

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 11m11 minutes ago

After hearing dozens of councillors and locals raise serious questions and objections, Haringey cabinet kick out public.
7 replies . 74 retweets 16 likes
Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 9m9 minutes ago

In seconds, they vote through the largest privatisation of its kind. Demolition of homes, huge payouts for Lendlease, little accountability
7 replies . 68 retweets 13 likes
Aditya Chakrabortty‏Verified account @chakrabortty 8m8 minutes ago

The LibDems will likely call in the motion, then there will almost certainly be a Judicial Review.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link

So where is Corbyn/Leadership in this exactly? One of the few criticisms of him that sticks.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

HDV voted through, has he even vocally opposed it yet?

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:15 (six years ago) link

More needs to be done than mere lip service or polite letters from Lammy to stop this rot.

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

There were sickening scenes at that meeting tonight in Chakrabortty's reportage, too many to mention as well.

The gigantic mound of paperwork that tenants were supposed have digested in a couple of days.

The fucking slug-like councillor talking about the poor doors like he was a good honest guy for being so upfront.

and this bit was nice:"After hearing dozens of councillors and locals raise serious questions and objections, Haringey cabinet kick out public."

and this"Another cllr raises point I made today: the council promises right of return but docs show they'll prioritise tenants being moved (out) once"

calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

Best wishes to you and yours, cal. This really needs to be jumped on now but I'm not seeing any major news sources talking about it. This fucking country.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link

Thanks Jed, if she was on her own she would living from foodbanks rn - like many are. As it is we are currently in a financially reduced situation rather than a completely disastrous one. So I can't moan when some have got it much worse, but yeah fuck this government and these apparatchiks of austerity who "are just doing their jobs" fucking over disabled people. Oh yes, there will be gulags for them as well after the big inquest!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link

Imagine Nick Robinson repeated asking Darling on Today earlier if he was ever going to get his party back. These fucks are losing complete comprehension of reality rn.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 09:05 (six years ago) link

Do these Haringey councillors a) not take seriously the possibility of deselection for next years local elections b) don't care and are determined to force this through come what may?

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Haringey councillors now accusing him of outright lying about the Asian Centre.

I'm guessing that Haringey no longer has any local paper with the resources and inclination to cover this story properly?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:28 (six years ago) link

Chakrabortty is getting the ad hominemming of his life from Cllr Joe Goldberg on Twitter rn, and as a bonus JG is complaining about Labour lefties' criticism of him being inherently anti-Semitic.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

JG using that tired line that Chakrabortty is commenting from a position of "elite privilege" . Yes we know he is a Guardian journalist you corrupt dickhead.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:40 (six years ago) link

People who are not from a position of "elite privilege" where unceremoniously dumped out of the chamber, so somebody needs to be.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link

How much influence does the leadership have over what local councils do? Serious question.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:49 (six years ago) link

This guy seems... odd?

Indeed and I wrote to you to urge you to take action on anti-semitism (twice) and you never even replied https://t.co/CVhdxhZuZC

— Joe Goldberg (@joedgoldberg) July 3, 2017

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:49 (six years ago) link

lmao @ twitter avi #48percentnation #Resist

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link

This guy seems... odd?

You are obviously not familiar with this thread: Local councillors

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition. They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link

JG using that tired line that Chakrabortty is commenting from a position of "elite privilege" . Yes we know he is a Guardian journalist you corrupt dickhead.

lol, he's attacking him as part of the 'elite' for going to the same state school that i did.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition. They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

That worked out really well for the Labour Party in Scotland after all.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:58 (six years ago) link

"brand strategist"

mark s, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

xpost

A lot of London Labour councils are just really bad because they've operated for decades with virtually no opposition

I was just about to make an almost identical post to Tom D abt Scotland.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link

Sounds like there may be a new scandal brewing just when they (or presumably the country) doesn't need there to be one with the bigger group they're part of. Are the Tories going to start looking justified in light of this or will it be spun that way.
Are there further Tory scandals that need to be outed yet, or immminently?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link

They become complacent at best and entirely mendacious at worst, with than veneer of "but we're Labour so we must be the good guys really".

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:57 (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Look I love my ilx UK cru but cmere

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link

this is a problem all over the country, council meetings becoming formalities with the real discussion happening elsewhere, they've become very undemocratic

ogmor, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:23 (six years ago) link

Let's cheer up with a quote from Angela Rayner, describing Arlene Foster: 'the most expensive right-winger since Cristiano Renaldo'.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link

if Angela Rayner knew football that joke could've landed

more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

Dominic Cummings, the Vote Leave campaign director, described the referendum as a “dumb idea” before other ideas had been tried to win back powers from Brussels. He has also warned that Brexit is shaping up to be a “guaranteed debacle”, without big changes in Whitehall to deliver a successful negotiation.

Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrat leader, seized on the comments, saying: “Dominic Cummings has let the cat out of the bag. This is the man who slapped the £350m NHS lie on the side of the bus who is now saying leaving the EU could be a mistake.

“These Brexiteers have sold us a pup and lied to the public. This is why I believe the public should be given a say on the final Brexit deal.”

Brexit: Vote Leave chief who created £350m NHS lie on bus admits leaving EU could be 'an error'

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

People keep saying the phrase "sold us a pup" as if it's nbd.

Jack-et potato? (jed_), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

Since when did pups take preference over pigs in a poke?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

during classic famine conditions I'm sure a pup would contain slightly less protein than a pig in a poke.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

Arr, but a pig in a poke is really a cat in the bag!

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

big bottom birds in the bush

Choco Blavatsky (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DD1TmP1XUAAzz6g.jpg

the absolute beardless boy (courtesy the shropshire star)

mark s, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

Looks very like someone there.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

ladies love cool jeremy

🎵oooh, kevin has a place in perth🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/04/senior-labour-figures-clash-over-concerns-of-working-class-voters

Jones, who is standing as a candidate on Wednesday to become a representative of backbenchers on Labour’s parliamentary committee, said he would use the position to fight for greater attention of white working-class voters. He wants Corbyn to address perceptions that the leadership is not patriotic and does not support the deployment of nuclear weapons, he said.

“How thick does this party have to be? We have not learnt the lessons from the rise of the BNP [in the 90s]. Our core voters cannot be taken for granted. These are people who have been let down by political elites for decades. They see themselves as being at the back of every queue.

“We have to talk about their concerns – counter-terrorism, nationalism, defence and community, the nuclear deterrent and patriotism,” said Jones, who represents Hyndburn in Lancashire.

Asked if he was concerned that the party could sound as if it was appealing to racist sentiments, Jones said: “It is not about that. There are genuine concerns about wages being undercut. We have to arrived at a point where these communities in England can no longer be ignored. And if we fail to address it, we are finished.”

Graham Jones suggesting that genuine concerns are the new legitimate concerns.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

Depressed wages in working class communities? Wheel out the nuclear deterrent and get talking about nationalism.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link


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