Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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that looks like maybe 20 million? hard to tell

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

hey look what else I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

Looks like about 50 million, compared to 150 million CDs.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 June 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

You GUYS, I just put out some rare Texas Is The Reason vinyls that I picked up on my buying trip to Jakarta last month. Get on over here!

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19510360_10156007504502137_2046837864419874975_n.jpg?oh=150aa9f643c45ce34b7e80af83a4f720&oe=59C49A23

scott seward, Friday, 30 June 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988...

What were the sales totals for LPs in 1988, though? I bet they were significantly more than 12 million.

― grawlix (unperson), Friday, June 30, 2017 9:52 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're getting into more advanced math because you need to account for inflation, which in itself has different theories of ways of doing it

i mean...in 2015, i'm assuming that $416 million number is revenue

in 1988, revenue was $532 million and in 1989, $220 million, which is good enough for me (accounting for inflation, 2015 is up by ~$18 million); deal in cost of production/labour/wholesale and things get more complicated

revenue data: https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/

and if you want more fun, cpi inflation calculator: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

why the heck doesn't that chart include cassette tapes?!

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

the one sleeve linked, I mean

cassettes were ridiculously huge in the US by around 1990, I remember the midwestern shopping mall music stores having entire walls just covered in cassettes. unless there was a promo image, you'd have to get really close just to see what they were

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

i was talking to someone and she told me a pressing plant is opening in athens (georgia)?

maura, Friday, 30 June 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

Not just walls, mh.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/99/a4/45/99a4458acd1e9f21d76b1fe6a0c8e6e9.jpg

andrew m., Friday, 30 June 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

Kindercore Vinyl is the new pressing plant in Athens.

Brad C., Friday, 30 June 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

i am the vinyl pressing center

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

baaahahaha

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Friday, 30 June 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

well i was going to mention while it's worth mentioning that there are ~20 companies manufacturing vinyl records, they sound like they are small operations

sounds like sony wants to do this at a larger scale

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

Have you ever wanted to hear an entire book on vinyl?

ummm...no?

https://pitchfork.com/news/vinyl-audiobook-series-launches-with-david-foster-wallace-and-more/

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:05 (six years ago) link

aw i was hoping that url meant there was gonna be a vinyl infinite jest in a 900-piece set

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link

Heh same. Get an lp every day for three years.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 12:22 (six years ago) link

I've also never understood why anyone in 2018 would want to own stand up comedy on vinyl, but this is even stupider

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

I do love the poetry readings I have on vinyl tbh

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

aw i was hoping that url meant there was gonna be a vinyl infinite jest in a 900-piece set

― NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 6:18 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the future liberals want

mh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

So many 180g reissues of dollar bin mainstays out there now... not talking about legit awesome Friday Music issues or the like, these ones I see know are just part of the "vinyl is hip/back" thing that is taxing the poor vinyl presses

brimstead, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:19 (six years ago) link

It really is quite stupid.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Thursday, 1 March 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

I started giggling when I saw Whipped Cream & Other Delights reissued and for sale at B&N

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 02:11 (six years ago) link

Yeah B&N has so much of that junk! And everything is at least $25 and it makes me sad

brimstead, Thursday, 1 March 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

might not be a shady scam, but the amount of crap they package with these records is ridiculous. that guy from Nest Magazine should really have one of these artisan mixtape services. if he is still alive.

https://www.vinylmoon.co/

https://www.vinylmoon.co/thecollection/

scott seward, Sunday, 18 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

i have no idea about the music but this one is kinda far out.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/cratejoy_vendor_images/65e9ffdd7c8749a0bf449ba2cc310fcd.jpeg

http://www.shop.vinylmoon.co/shop/product/1327023046

scott seward, Sunday, 18 March 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

i do like that there are no words/type on the covers. they look cool. someone should do this kind of thing for music i like.

scott seward, Sunday, 18 March 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

I made it through 18 seconds of one song on one of those vinyl moon comps. totally a scam insofar as you need packaging like that to sell these bands

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 18 March 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

Oh I think those look amazing and would love to own. Couple of those if the price is not insane.

I do not know any of the artists in there though, suspect all the artwork and packaging is compensating on the quality of the actual music.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 18 March 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

When the actual music is tertiary to "OMG vinyl" and gimmicky packaging, it becomes like comic books and baseball cards in the early 90s when everything had to be a Collector's Edition regardless of merit.

sueñx latinx (naus), Monday, 19 March 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

a scary comparison but yeah one figures there has to be a bursting of the bubble at some point. after the $50 reissue of Use Your Illusion I & II i saw at a bookstore i mostly stopped keeping track of the insane and inexplicable who's-going-to-buy-enough-of-these-that-retailers-aren't-going-to-ultimately-take-a-bath items. i was killing time in a barnes and noble a couple weeks ago and saw sooooo much $28 shit nobody needs to own. don henley's most recent solo album was in there! but also so much shit like the big Asia album. who's that for? are Asia popular again? do people who were teens when "heat of the moment" came out really miss their old copy but can't be bothered with the dollar bins? i know we've been over this many times but it continues to boggle my mind. like at least i can understand some of the other stuff - - - the Stranger Things soundtrack would be desired by the kind of people who have cash to burn on this stuff, i get that.

lol dis stance dunk (Doctor Casino), Monday, 19 March 2018 00:17 (six years ago) link

I alternate between "Omg I has an original pressing" and "Whoa I have a pristine repress" all the time.

For instance, I got the recent "Sun Zoom Spark" Beefheart set, even though I have Clear Spot already, but I've already played the box more than the original (oh, and the Decals more than my mid seventies reissue, but then the sound is much improved)

I did get the cd box at the time but wasn't very fussed for some reason. Maybe I'd overdosed on Beefheart at that point, or maybe it suits home rather than car listening, or maybe I was so chuffed at getting the LP box for £20..

Mark G, Monday, 19 March 2018 08:05 (six years ago) link

Mmm I have the original Asia album that belonged to my father... it’s fairly mint and I don’t care for it... might sell it on discogs if the demand for Asia is back.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 19 March 2018 08:32 (six years ago) link

stealing this from a friend's facebook. record store day releases. column h is wholesale and column g is retail. long live record stores....

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28795774_10155538768213528_6030469263706861567_n.jpg?oh=351f0d2e316010dc8d6c8a72e328bf5b&oe=5B4997FC

scott seward, Monday, 19 March 2018 14:34 (six years ago) link

lol, love that last one. must be a typo. but it kinda FEELS like that.

scott seward, Monday, 19 March 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link

I was just about to ask!

Evan, Monday, 19 March 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link

looool

sleeve, Monday, 19 March 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link

I take it those are Light In The Attic releases and not Lita Ford back catalogue?

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Monday, 19 March 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link

jesus christ what a scam

mh, Monday, 19 March 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

It's OK record clerks make all their money in tips anyway.

Evan, Monday, 19 March 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

I'm just thinking of the number of times I've requested a couple records at my local place and the owner has quoted me a price and then knocked a few dollars off when I picked them up for being a good customer

mh, Monday, 19 March 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link

$13.99 for a seven inch? JFC.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

$2 per inch is standard now

Sufjan in Worst Shithole of a Major American City (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

10% markups? Those are grocery margins!

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

$2 per inch, excelsior

mh, Monday, 19 March 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link

surely that vinylmoon biz has to be a pay-to-play kinda thing for the bands/musicians on there.

andrew m., Monday, 19 March 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

oh totally

sleeve, Monday, 19 March 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest indie bands

papa don't take no meth (stevie), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link

The packaging of that vinyl moon stuff is beautiful. The fact that it is has seemingly no connection whatsoever to the music contained therein seems sketchy, shady, screwy and something I'd want nothing to do with.

papa don't take no meth (stevie), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link

btw i totally purchased a "flipped" vinylmeplease pressing of Buhloone Mindstate last month because it was cheaper than any copy of that album I'd ever seen and worried I'd feel played, but it sounds like a dream and hey I guess I think vinylmeplease isn't a terrible idea now (though I could never afford to subscribe) (and wouldn't want to as I don't need someone else to curate my record collection)

papa don't take no meth (stevie), Monday, 19 March 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

vinyl me please is so corny but yeah i figured its product was pretty ok

maura, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:40 (six years ago) link


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