brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

"public are weary of austerity" = shitting myself I'm going to lose my seat next election

had enough of their expert tease

Letwin actually has a pretty healthy majority these days but he's obviously scarred by having the Lib Dems breathing down his neck for most of his parliamentary career.

Posting this more for the eye-opening campaign manager salary here.

Brace yourselves, another election is coming. pic.twitter.com/2LQFL7cxJv

— Kerri (@_kerriprince) June 28, 2017

that's not bad for 2 months work

They're picking out positions for the inevitable leadership contest, during which virtually anyone could stand and find themselves in with a chance.

Well played:

This moment was just too beautiful for words, @susannareid100... 😂😂😂@piersmorgan @CharlotteHawkns pic.twitter.com/hK2n88nBS4

— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) June 28, 2017

That is basically GMB in a nutshell.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDZOTCeWAAAv4Pl.jpg:large

and the joy of that is it will be easy to turn into Captain Birdseye when Corbs goes out of fashion

LOL. Some Labour centrists will do anything to get back into Corbyn's good books.

It will only be a matter of time before somebody 'shops that tat onto Owen Smith.

SO the tories won against Labour's austerity ammendment by 26 wotes? Who voted for it outside the tories/dup? (I need to update my enemies list)

Hearing that Labour frontbenchers who voted for the Umunna amendment are being SACKED by Jeremy Corbyn. Andy Slaughter among them.

— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) June 29, 2017

imagine chuka umunna being the hill you want to die on

lobby hacks are big fans of the all-caps SACKED

Labour confirms that all frontbenchers who voted against government's demand for abstention on single market vote have been SACKED.

— Anushka Asthana (@GuardianAnushka) June 29, 2017

(isn't this p much standard for frontbenchers who defy the whip though? despite all the folk trying to make it out as Corbyn being unreasonably authoritarian or something)

quite possibly, but we all know how this is going to play in certain sections of the press

They're going to love it, surely? More Brexit the better.

"imagine chuka umunna being the hill you want to die on"

It was only a year ago when Chuka was in the legitimate concernist clique and all for quitting the single market to end freedom of movement.

don't care what hill they die on as long as they die

the statement by Ummuna and co's pro-single market faction of Labour politicians that the guardian published last week seems to suggest that they are still anti freedom of movement but arguing there is a way to remain in the single market without FoM?

The argument for leaving the single market is often focused around the need to end the free movement of people. However, we argue, and many experts agree, that changes to our immigration system can be made while keeping us inside it. Within the European treaties, free movement is not unconditional – at the moment we can require EU citizens to leave if they have no job or a prospect of a job three months after their arrival. Restrictions on free movement are explicitly allowed for reasons of “public policy, public security or public health”. Liechtenstein, which is outside the EU but in the single market, perfectly legally imposes quotas on EU migrants. French president Emmanuel Macron’s chief adviser has floated the idea of a “continental partnership” between Britain and the EU that would allow us to restrict free movement.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/20/end-austerity-uk-single-market-theresa-may-brexit

Umunna rather

of all the bits of EU policy they want to jettison it's the blessed relief of not having to worry about an immigration van pulling up on your doorstep and carry you away, that's the bit they really don't like. too little anxiety about your settled status! let's make britain as tense as possible! fuck outta here. what small-minded hard-hearted bigots. if they had just a fucking gram of curiosity about what life is like for other people they wouldn't be able to look anyone in the eye today after saying this shit.

They're going to love it, surely? More Brexit the better.

but surely any reason to portray JC as a maniacal marxist dictator is too juicy to resist.

I see all the Lib Dems voted for Ummuna's pathetic amendment - maybe he can join them, become their Macron and I can watch them fail again at the ballot box?

it is somewhat disheartening to see the main two opposition parties - labour and snp - basically say "on you go" to May wrt Brexit.

though not sure anyone, even the absolute boy, has the political capital to stand up to Brexit

It was not a manifesto commitment to "stand up to Brexit"

even the absolute boy, has the political capital to stand up to Brexit

he can't.
he is all for it.

It was not a manifesto commitment to "stand up to Brexit"

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:01 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no brexit is a settled issue as per the manifesto, I'm quite aware.

but the majority of labour voters are against it

Umunna expecting to stay in SM and CU without FoM is a good rib-tickler admittedly

Did you watch the General election? Many people who voted UKIP went back to Labour. Its part of the reason JC has more political capital rn.

I am fully aware many Labour supporters don't want Brexit. Unfortunately its a coalition of groups that have voted Labour. The fudge must go on.

did many kippers go back to Labour? I honestly haven't read anything to that effect.

From what I saw the UKIP vote collapsed with a split vote going Tory:Labour for a lot of the time.

given the current rules of the game Brexit is the hill you don't want to die on

we'll all get to die on that particular hill soon enough

Labour's official amendment is a DD quote about leaving EU with "exact same benefits" of SM and customs union. Given you don't get those without Brexit, it sounds like a demand for cake and eat it — which is exactly what the Tories promised.

Seems like a good way to keep hanging this around Tory necks and avoiding the "remoaners ignoring democracy" charge.

Watson on ch4 news earlier saying chukka's ammendment was unhelpful because they were seeking a "jobs first brexit" and used the phrase 3-4 times. If you can't beat 'em...

umunna's amendment was self indulgent gesture politics of the worst kind

Labour's manifesto on Brexit & amendment Labour MPs were whipped to support tonight.
There was no need for Umunna's amendment- well done JC pic.twitter.com/F1kF9Pp7Se

— Jeremy Corbyn for PM (@JeremyCorbyn4PM) June 29, 2017

Seems like a good way to keep hanging this around Tory necks and avoiding the "remoaners ignoring democracy" charge.

True, and Chuka's up to no particular good w/ his amendment but it's still very sad and the brexit is still going to be shit

I don't think we should lose sight of that and how much Corbyn is just rolling along being a Brexiteer - I mean yeah sure wants a soft left wing brexit not a hard right wing one but this is a bit like saying we're going to bring back capital punishment, but soft not hard. Deckchairs/titanic feeling

The Brexit vote is still so fake, so not actually democratic, so not going to provide what any of these stupid cunt leave voters actually want, you know? Why's he going along with it, he's meant to be the nice one. Etc. This post brought to you by a couple of tinnies.

Usual idiots taking the opportunity to say Corbyn really voted Leave blah blah blah, ffs.

my fave (from a Labour Right remoaner) is "the good election campaign proves he never properly tried to campaign for Leave" from a person who said he was toxic with the electorate and couldn't possibly connect with them.

Soft capital punishment...Deckchairs/Titanic.

We're all working hard tonight huh?

xp
I meant to say "campaign for Remain" there obv

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self help group : brexit related booze excess.

sign me up.

Did you watch the General election? Many people who voted UKIP went back to Labour. Its part of the reason JC has more political capital rn.
I am fully aware many Labour supporters don't want Brexit. Unfortunately its a coalition of groups that have voted Labour. The fudge must go on.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2017 20:07 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
did many kippers go back to Labour? I honestly haven't read anything to that effect.
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 29 June 2017 20:09 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
From what I saw the UKIP vote collapsed with a split vote going Tory:Labour for a lot of the time.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 June 2017 20:13 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I saw some graphic the other day that suggested this wasn't the case, i.e. very UKIP voters switched to Labour. According to this thing, what actually happened was a lot of ex-UKIPers just didn't vote at all this time and a fair amount switched to Tory. Meanwhile Labour picked up from the Tories than they lost to them and also gained lots of Greens and (decisively) people who hadn't previously voted. The net effect looks like the UKIP vote splitting red and blue, but it seems to be more complex than that.

*very few

Gah! *picked up more

Yes, I don't think many Kippers voted Labour, Remainers did in droves though.