The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

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Allegedly an experiment carried out by Third Reich scientists working for the SS in a German facility known as Der Riese ("The Giant")[6] near the Wenceslaus mine and close to the Czech border, Die Glocke is described as being a device "made out of a hard, heavy metal" approximately 2.7 metres (9 ft) wide and 3.7 to 4.6 metres (12 to 15 ft) high, having a shape similar to that of a large bell. According to an interview of Witkowski by Cook, this device ostensibly contained two counter-rotating cylinders which would be "filled with a mercury-like substance, violet in color". This metallic liquid was code-named "Xerum 525" and was "stored in a tall thin thermos flask a meter high encased in lead".[7] Additional substances said to be employed in the experiments, referred to as Leichtmetall (light metal), "included thorium and beryllium peroxides".[7] Witkowski describes Die Glocke, when activated, as having an effect zone extending out 150 to 200 metres (490 to 660 ft). Within the zone, crystals would form in animal tissue, blood would gel & separate while plants would decompose into a grease like substance.[7] Witkowski also said that five of the seven original scientists working on the project died in the course of the tests.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 05:19 (six years ago) link

saw saw the newest one. holy shit.

slow motion atomic explosion may be my favorite. love the abstract bits. damn good stuff.

also Twin Peaks in the 50s this is a fantastical dream come true i never knew i wanted now we in classic monster movie mode.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 05:59 (six years ago) link

the cgi in this was mindblowing. after all the complaints from earlier in the series i felt this one episode was pretty flawless.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:03 (six years ago) link

"filled with a mercury-like substance, violet in color".

hmmm

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:05 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/vWigLGD.png

i loved the black and white sections. there were some really beautiful shots.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:09 (six years ago) link

listening to the diane podcast, they mentioned ray shot mr c

in the stomach

twice

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Twin-Peaks-8.png

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:16 (six years ago) link

episode 8 was so good. god i love this show. i dont even care if i dont know any of these characters or if it has nothing to do with the town of Twin Peaks just keep giving us this awesome stuff seriously this rules so much

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:38 (six years ago) link

i loved the sequence when the smoke was coming out of the convenience store and they were playing the footage backward and forward that scene was great

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link

and there's still ten more episodes! TEN.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

giddy just contemplating this

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

ok since that lynch quote upthread references things happening in the past/future/present in parallel, im convinced that the giant birthing the laura orb is happening at the same moment we see her get sucked out of the lodge earlier in the series. sending her back for a vengence perhaps.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:58 (six years ago) link

was it Caretaker? or just something that sounded like Caretaker?

― akm, woensdag 28 juni 2017 0:41 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd wager it was something that sounded like it, very much so, but not one of his. Not hard to see Lynch being a fan though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link

It originates from Lynch and Dean Hurley's "The Air is on Fire" ambient album from 2007, around the 47 minute mark of this video:

https://youtu.be/uUdP-xQyFmc?t=47m9s

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

Well I'll be damned

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 09:34 (six years ago) link

Is nobody hearing that the woodsman says "the horse is the whiter/wider the eyes", not "white of", like there is a very unmistakeably clear rhotic sound? Is this just part of his grizzled prospector accent?

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 10:43 (six years ago) link

it's just hard to say "white of" with an unlit cigarette in your mouth so it comes out kinda mumbly

dynamicinterface, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link

Hmm yeah I guess he could be really trying to make the impossible f sound and that's where it comes from. Just stands out cause if you're eliding that letter you'd normally go to "white a" rather than "white errr" as it is here

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

white of, fits w the white horse motif (also Silver Mustang casino)

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link

That much is obvious

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link

so what does everyone think the black and white steampunk Pixies album cover room w the giant and lady and experimental device is? i saw some people say it was "the other lodge" and there are two lodges, i guess this would be the white lodge? as if something this strange is ultimately that simple and binary. not sure i agree w that i feel like he is taking a more abstracted and decentralized approach to the mythology. the deaths have have been quit out of the blue and unrelated. Laura Palmer is the nuclear at the heart of this atomic explosion but imo the glass box and the kid getting hit by the car and other things are all random deaths swirling around this atomic center.

i think Lynch feels maybe people idolized Laura's death a little too much and he was aware of maybe the creepiness of him putting this image of a murdered and sexualized young girl in the public consciousness. with the new season things are more chaotic. people kill each other left and right. murder has been given back its senselessness. the kid getting killed by the car, this was tragic primarily through its senselessness. this is why there is all this chaotic, seemingly meaningless death. the audience is trying to "piece together the puzzle" and "make sense of it". there is no making sense of death. but we try. this is what this show is about, partially.

i think he chose an overly telegraphed and stylized performance for that scene to highlight this. apart from Harry Dean Stanton (watching over the glowing yellow Tree of Life appearing over the deceased much like the Giant in EP 8 watches the atomic test) these weren't the seasoned Twin Peaks actors we know, they were kind of amateur, to emphasize their vulnerability, and they were trapped in a tragic cliche parental scare video, watching an anonymous kid run out and get killed by a car. the same thing with the 50s murders. we have seen the Woodsman (fwiw Tremaine says "Got a light?" in the original series) with his face flying off sitting in a jail cell in the first episode but all these 50s characters are completely new. he presents an entirely new world. starting with an atomic explosion. this is prime cult stuff, the kind of organized symbolic magic practiced by Harry Smith and Kenneth Anger, it is an act of creation using archetypal symbols. it is about mimicking God's Creation, the beginning of a new world with the Word. the atomic test goes off and David Lynch literally creates an entire new world. i love the montage here w the new diner and stuff, going around town. BOOM. the Big Bang. Creation of a new world.

i hope we get to explore this new world of the 50s Twin Peaks. this scene was shot beautifully. there is a shot of the two kids walking down the road and they start of in light and then walk into shadow for a bit and then back into the light, with this light glow around their outlines the whole time. it was angelic and magical. this would not look as good in color. it really still felt like Twin Peaks, only the imagery was all shifted. it was an amazing alternate universe. im very glad we didn't learn anybody's name in the 50s. right now it is a total mystery. David Lynch is doing the impossible, introducing all of these new mysteries. this slow drip of continuous new mystery is intoxicating. <3 this show forever.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ruhcxPw.png

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

so what does everyone think the black and white steampunk Pixies album cover room w the giant and lady and experimental device is?

imo it's a radiator

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

j/k i'm sympathetic to the idea that it's the white lodge while also thinking that it's not that simple/the binaries in twin peaks are generally way more collapsed than that (my primary example of this is the character of leland)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

i def think it's a white lodge situation and def think that lynch is not self aware when it comes to the creepiness factor/worship of brutally murdered women.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link

lol this episode was crazier than a bottle of chips, but somehow the best episode so far.

i am not overly enamored with this season so far, i suppose I'm in the camp of preferring twin peaks (tv show) and fire walk with me to late lynch, and while i didn't want a total nostalgia fest set exclusively in twin peaks and featuring all the same protagonists, i honestly can't say that the buckhorn stuff or dougie are really doing much for me.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

also so many scenes with such stilted and languorous dialogue that has a bit of a brechtian effect, purposefully or otherwise, kind of got "the room" vibes once or twice

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Sure! I frame it the other way round obv, that the room is unintentionally (superficially) lynchian

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

so what does everyone think the black and white steampunk Pixies album cover room w the giant and lady and experimental device is?

which album is this?

Je55e, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link

Indie Cindy

Position Position, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

that lady in the white lodge was indie cindy herself

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

that lynch music cue from the gramophone was tight

appreciate how this season operates as both a prequel w/ the origins stuff and a new series.

Unchanging Window (Ross), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

dont know what i mean by Pixies i guess Surfer Rosa but looking back that is a much more barren room this one (the Giant's theater) was more ornate. im not saying there is a connection just they tap into a lot of the same themes.

http://www.snapgalleries.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/1759.png

first i thought of Bossa Nova because of the 50s UFO sci fi connections mixed w spacey yet busy atomic era art deco design.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/b9/3e/74b93ec012b571121688e87a94f87e2e.jpg

im not saying they are connected in any way other than me just associating these two early 90s gen x experimentalists that tapped into the alt nostalgia. anyways the back cover of Trompe Le Monde is pretty Lynchian note the red curtains and egglike organic creatures.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

lynch loves 4ad and vaughan oliver designed the sleeve for one of his records once

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

Me thinks Melies/Coctaeu/Wiene and that sort of shit is the common influence among these things not Pixies covers lol

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:31 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNKGuF8YeuE

Number None, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

^^^ i was about to mention that!

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

i was just going through taking screenshots of the episode and just remember yeah they do fly into that little window on that metal thing maybe its a radiator

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link

damn this episode was tight. i really enjoy just soaking in the visuals and sound in this show. some images:

http://i.imgur.com/CHlMxIhm.png

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/CHlMxIhl.png

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

Strong umbilical cord vibes from that bubble spew too.
https://i0.wp.com/wisewomanwayofbirth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/cord4.jpg

attention vampire (MatthewK), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

damn that locust was sick. It's so awesome to see Lynch get a fat budget and do some worthy CGI

Unchanging Window (Ross), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link

i loved the insane mix of that locust frog, which was so incredibly realistic, and the stop motion of the egg cracking.

akm, Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

seriously CRINGED

Unchanging Window (Ross), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:41 (six years ago) link

how did he even make that? granted I wonder the same thing about the eraserhead baby to this day.

akm, Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:47 (six years ago) link

He bred them in his basement

Moodles, Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link

Eraserhead baby is rumored (possibly more than rumored) to be at least partly organic. In case you needed it to be more horrifying than it already was.

Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link


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