Bark Psychosis: C or D

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I still don't know the order of events -- ie, whether they already knew each other before she started writing the book, or whether they met because she started writing the book and interviewing people -- but it's fun that Jeanette and Graham ended up getting married. Power couple right there!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

revisiting codename dustsucker and i've gotta say (and someone probably did) that track one basically invented grizzly bear

plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 22 July 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

Nice try, but I'm still not going to listen to Grizzly Bear

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 22 July 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

shapeshifting sounds like movietone with a michio kurihara guest guitar solo

plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 22 July 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

I was in London for this talk at Rough Trade. It was fairly interesting and a happy accident that I ended up in the shop just before the talk began. Wish they had played some examples of the music that influenced the sound.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

Oh cool, do you remember much about what was said?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

In parts. Talked about the influences of the sound. The differences in the U.K. and US post rock principals / sound. The research & writing process. A couple anecdotes. Some other known musicians were in the audience but I forgot who they are now.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 22 July 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

revisiting codename dustsucker and i've gotta say (and someone probably did) that track one basically invented grizzly bear

??? That's a favorite track of mine but it's hardly unique in the continuum of post rock. Grizzly Bear certainly take some influence from post rock but I think their style is quite a bit different.

yesca, Sunday, 23 July 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link

it's the vocal harmonies as much as the music. i don't think i'm insane, i can't actually unhear it now

plp will eat itself (NickB), Sunday, 23 July 2017 05:58 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

hex double vinyl remaster?

https://boomkat.com/products/hex-2fe2e77f-2575-4820-88f4-b763cf63e88d

koogs, Sunday, 17 September 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

Cd's supposed to be remastered too and finally got the mix it should have done if the band weren't falling apart at the time or something. So have wondered if it sounds much different to the original release which i think I still have.

Also wondering if Sutton might remaster the Che era stuff and recompile it.

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 September 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link

that would be nice. I'll be buying this, more to support the band and Sutton and show interest than anything else; I do wish it wasn't a double 45 release, I hate those. But still.

akm, Sunday, 17 September 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

They have a Bandcamp page if you want to go direct. I'm assuming the FLAC is 24bit.

Hard to tell how different the new master is but the previews sound nice enough.

Noel Emits, Sunday, 17 September 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

XXP - The album is remixed??

MaresNest, Sunday, 17 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

Has anyone established whether it actually sounds any different/better? (It always sounded close to perfect to me).

djh, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link

From one faintly distracted listen last night, not A-B tested (though I did listen to the original, via a different method, the day before), I feel like some of the guitar is slightly more prominent, and some of the background/ambient sounds. Specifically Graham's spooky, scratchy, mood/rhythm guitar bits (not the sparkly, beatific, weary lead melodies). The whole effect of which is to feel a little less smooth. And closer, ever so slightly, to Dustsucker.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 05:29 (six years ago) link

That's funny because the impression I had from the clips on BK was that the overall 'texture' was a bit smoother (than the origin CD.) Like, slightly more controlled compression, more bass and a more 'open' midrange. Which certainly might make for a better listen, if not dramatically so. A tasteful modern mastering job in other words.

Low bitrate preview clips are of course useless for evaluating this kind of thing, but Sutton says it's better and I'll give him the benefit if the doubt on that.

The original has always sounded pretty good but also for some reason I've never wanted to play it that much and I am intrigued by the prospect of a refreshed version.

It's not been remixed AFAIK.

I make no apologies for the hi-fi mag / Hoffman forums tone of some of the above. My embarrasment should suffice. ;-)

Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 11:12 (six years ago) link

Sleevenotes don't mention remixing, just remastering.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link

More open midrange would explain the increased prominence of Graham's spooky scratch guitar, actually.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

Feel sure that this must have been posted somewhere but just in case:

http://thequietus.com/articles/15990-bark-psychosis-hex-graham-sutton-interview

djh, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

I thought i read something from Sutton somewhere about it finally getting the mix it deserved, or would have got if he wasn't feeling the effect of teh band falling apart at the time of release. Can't think where out of several magazines though.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 20:49 (six years ago) link

It's a fine sounding record anyway imho, remaster or otherwise

MaresNest, Wednesday, 20 September 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Codename: Dustsucker reissue on the way:

https://barkpsychosis.bandcamp.com/album/codename-dustsucker

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link

things i've never heard til today: bark psychosis (heard of them round here over 16 years but i'm either first or last it seems).i been playing through fire records stuff thanks to learning about and playing lots of virginia wing.

enjoying the hell out of codename dustsucker. i guess just in time for reissue! still not heard hex yet tho. ~anticipation~

Hunt3r, Thursday, 8 March 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

I'm jealous! They are one of the best bands ever, ever, ever...

MaresNest, Thursday, 8 March 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

Che material needs a new one disc comprehensive home.

Stevolende, Thursday, 8 March 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

the two cheree eps were collected on one cd. it's over there (points 5ft to his left). discogs doesn't list anything else.

https://www.discogs.com/Bark-Psychosis-Nothing-Feels-I-Know/release/690188

koogs, Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

ah, there was a track on the flexi

B1 –Bark Psychosis Clawhammer

koogs, Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link

Never much cared for Codename: Dustsucker. Hex and Independency are mostly classic, though.

pomenitul, Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

dustsucker was the first one i heard (courtesy of a nick southall review, i think!), and i still love it and connect to it a bit more than their earlier albums (which i also like)

two months pass...

This is a rather random little essay but has a few tidbits about early BP.

https://christopherothen.wordpress.com/2017/12/01/the-bark-psychosis-stanley-kubrick-connection/

MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09xsVXSuUk

MaresNest, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link

JUst reading that bark psychosis/kubrick thing and the writer's wrong, they didn't go to Bancrofts which was the other local public school in the area. they went to Forest School. Certainly from the age of about 11 to when they left school.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Piece in stereogum on hex’s 25th birthday:
https://www.stereogum.com/2031861/bark-psychosis-hex-turns-25/franchises/sounding-board/

goats eat grandma (NickB), Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:54 (five years ago) link

i never understood the fuss about hex. nothing special really, nice to listen to but quite boring. codename dustsucker on the other hand totally knocked me out. they reached another level on that album.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 14 February 2019 22:22 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

BUYER BEWARE: RSD issue of Bark Psychosis “Independency” is unapproved and made despite being asked not to.
No approval of tracklisting.
No approval of artwork.
No approval of mastering.
No approval of pressings.
Can't vouch for veracity of masters used.
You get the picture.

— Graham • Sutton (@GPSutton) March 1, 2019

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 March 2019 21:03 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Did anyone pick this up despite it not being legit? I saw a copy yesterday that had somehow not been purchased on RSD, but given Graham's tweet above and the $40 price tag, I ultimately decided to pass it up. I hope this wasn't a mistake. Hopefully there will be a proper reissue at some point?

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

I did. Listened to it last night and it actually sounds pretty great!!

Guessing, despite Graham’s comments, that they must’ve had some sort of decent masters to work with.

Internet Alan, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

Picked it up but not listened to it yet. Also sent me off to finally order the “Blue” and “A Street Scene” CD singles which have now arrived.

michaellambert, Monday, 15 April 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

I was so conflicted about this one. As well as your comment about the quality of the sound Alan, a few people on Discogs have said it sounds excellent. As soon as it was announced it was at the top of my list, but Graham's comments stopped me from getting it. We have one copy left at work and it's calling my name.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:03 (five years ago) link

I asked Graham if he’d ever remaster Independency and he suggested there were significant legal issues with doing so, iirc. No idea what.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 05:59 (five years ago) link

The legal issue will be Gerald Palmer’s ownership of the masters.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 11:34 (five years ago) link

I ended up picking up this reissue and have to say, it sounds really great. Just as good as the recent Hex and Codename vinyl reissues.

kitchen person, Saturday, 20 April 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

So Independency, Game Over and Replay have now hit streaming services? Really didn't expect this at all.

kommafeil, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

nice!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 19 April 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

Files were upped on Boomkat a couple of months ago but Graham asked them to take them down and they complied almost immediately, so I guess Third Stone were responsible.

Maresn3st, Monday, 19 April 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

well, i'm happy to hear independency again.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 19 April 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Is there any plans to reissue the non-album stuff?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 May 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Struggled to decide which thread to flag this on ...

https://acerecords.co.uk/in-the-light-of-time

Great track listing.

djh, Thursday, 10 August 2023 20:33 (eight months ago) link


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