also true
― mh, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
Clean. Bandit. Breathtakingly. Brilliant. Four words I never expected to see in the same sentence (well, at least without a 'not' or 'weren't' or some such).
― Bloody Snail, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
Hell, Thom covered 'Got to Give it Up' with Atoms for Peace. At this point, I'd imagine he's down for whatever.
― Austin, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
credit to them for resolutely and deliberately offering something that is tugging in the opposite direction to major lazer and clean bandit.
but then a fairly damning indictment of the mindset of festivalgoers these days, turning up to see radiohead and becoming indignant that they are not not being radiohead?
leads to an odd inversion of "you had to be there, maaan" where those watching on TV are affording it greater reverence than those in the field at the time who were vocal in finding smug ways to craft a tweet about dirges. it's not inconceivable that in another 20 years, the one video that your kids will be hunting down on youtube to watch won't be that of the foo fighters.
― matt h, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:35 (six years ago) link
It isn't now, either!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link
Thank god
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:49 (six years ago) link
Off topic: Festivals are both awesome and terrible at the same time. Most of the people in festivals don't really give a fuck about the music at all.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:51 (six years ago) link
Might be me being older and bitter but the festival experience did change a lot in the smartphone post-social media world.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 06:56 (six years ago) link
ed balls upset that his his privilege is not being validated by thom engaging him from the stage with conversational smalltalk + bon mots but instead being presented with a more socially awkward invitation to enjoy the light + sound he has made. dave grohl, otoh, greatest rock band in the world, asking you every couple of minutes asking how you are doing and if you are in the mood for more rock.
healthy to have the sweet and the sour, but much easier to dig the snide blade into one than the other.
― matt h, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:15 (six years ago) link
What's your parameter to put FF in the greatest rock band in the world?
If we go by record sales it's ColdplayIf we go by tour income it's U2 or Rolling Stones (Springsteen and Coldplay probably close)If we go by facebook followers it's Linkin ParkIf we go by wealth it's Eagles or Fleetwood Mac
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:25 (six years ago) link
Without looking I predict even Arctic Monkeys and Twenty One Pilots have sold more records than Foo Fighters in the past 7 years.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link
I know they're huge but greatest rock band they are not.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:29 (six years ago) link
just checked and my prediction wasn't off. Not counting their upcoming record since we don't have numbers on that one but going by last albums:
Foo Fighters - Sonic Highways (2014)(490,000 copies US)Arctic Monkeys - AM (2013)(550,000+ copies US)Twenty One Pilots - Blurryface (2015)(1.5M copies US)
I'm going by US commercial reception only. If I add UK I'm certain Arctic Monkeys and Twenty One Pilots will also win against the Foo.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:38 (six years ago) link
If we go by facebook followers it's Linkin Park
This... cannot be real, right?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:41 (six years ago) link
It is and they're the rock band with more fb likes on their offficial page by quite some margin:
http://loudwire.com/metallica-20-million-facebook-fans-black-album-20th-birthday/
Linkin Park 33MBeatles 20.5MMetallica 20M
That's a 2011 article tho... care to find an updates source?
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:46 (six years ago) link
Oh wow they are at 61M Nowadays
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:47 (six years ago) link
I'll do a quick check:
Linkin Park 61MBeatles 41MMetallica 37MRadiohead 11MFoo Fighters 11M
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:49 (six years ago) link
ah, no parameter. was just repeating the BBC's descriptions of their iplayer sets https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/group/p056kg71
foo fighters "One of the greatest bands on the planet and after this set - one of the greatest of all time." https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p055zhn7/glastonbury-2017-foo-fightersradiohead "20 years since they first headlined the Pyramid stage, Radiohead return to Worthy Farm with no compromises." https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p056bxjf/glastonbury-2017-radiohead
― matt h, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:54 (six years ago) link
Oh my bad. Carry on.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 07:56 (six years ago) link
Arctic Monkeys sold more than the Foo Fighters in the US?
Blimey.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 08:06 (six years ago) link
leads to an odd inversion of "you had to be there, maaan" where those watching on TV are affording it greater reverence than those in the field at the time who were vocal in finding smug ways to craft a tweet about dirges.
Nah he's just done that really basic thing of turning up to watch the Pyramid headliners regardless of interest in their music. Loads of people do it.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 08:52 (six years ago) link
I was shocked in the early 90s as a naive teenager to find so many people would go to Glastonbury and just sit at the Pyramid Stage all day, rather than actively seeking out music.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link
or something more interesting than just sitting around...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, June 28, 2017 1:51 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Moka otm
the one time I attended Coachella, which is creeping up on a decade ago, there were definitely people who were adhering to a schedule, going between stages to see particular bands, trying to work their way into a good spot in the crowd
there were also many people who were there because it's a festival and were just crowding as close to the front as possible for whatever acts had the biggest name. and the trail of people from the dance tent to the medical station who were probably rolling all day and nearly passed out. and the people who were there to show off their COACHELLA LQQK and be seen, hopefully by cameras
― mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link
I used to go to GLasto to explore..
I came back one time to the group tent, and told of what I'd seen: "Guys, I found a Fine Dining tent/marquee!" to general disbelief. Nowadays, you'd think nothing of one, but this was 1988 or thereabouts..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link
What, that early!?!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link
I know.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link
Saw Radiohead at Glastonbury in 1997 and can confirm they were dirge-y, I think I might have even left halfway.
(They were zillions times better on the In Rainbows tour.)
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link
i note that those criteria above (sales, facebook likes etc) don't feature 'Spotify streams' which surely is the ultimate decider for such things these days?
― piscesx, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 29 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
― piscesx, miércoles 28 de junio de 2017 22:28 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is there an easy way to see all the streams of all the songs per artist? Top songs is easy:
ff - Everlong 146M21P- Stressed Out 722MColdplay - Hymn for the Weekend 355M (although "something just like this" is 422M)RH - Creep 178MArctic Monkeys - do I wanna know 360M
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link
Linkin Park - In the End 241M
I'm sorry you old people. The people have spoken and the greatest rock band today is the Twenty One Pilots.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
Also Linkin Park is more loved than Foo Fighters and Radiohead.
Also this:
Beatles - Here Comes the Sun 90M
Noone cares about the Beatles anymore. (To their defense they were added to spotify less than a year ago)
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
festivals are more about drugs IMO
if Radiohead was playing when I was on stims I'd probably think it's som dirge bogshite too
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:29 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also a significant percentage of their fanbase is not on spotify
― nice cage (m bison), Thursday, 29 June 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link
They also rock less hard than Twenty One Pilots.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 05:33 (six years ago) link
21 pilots are so, so bad
― nice cage (m bison), Thursday, 29 June 2017 05:54 (six years ago) link
I know. It seriously makes me feel old how popular they are.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link
Although if I was 10 years younger I'm sure I wouldn't give a fuck about them still.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 06:43 (six years ago) link
Going back to Radiohead tho... are they really completeñy dirge-like?
They sure have a lot of dirge like songs and Thom lyrics are 99% bleak and cynic but in every record since Kid A it seems the growing obsession with IDM and techno infected them with a need to "groove" less focus on "guitar-based jams and into bass and drums based ones a la Talking Heads and Krautrock or whatever artist they are stealing from in each new album.
At least there's a dancing Thom segment in each concert since Idioteque.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Thursday, 29 June 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link
I'd never heard of 21 Pilots before this thread. Cheers everyone.
― chap, Thursday, 29 June 2017 07:49 (six years ago) link
don't think radiohead are too dirge like,
we suck young blood would be the apex of their dirge IMO
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Thursday, 29 June 2017 08:14 (six years ago) link
I like it, but set-opener Daydreaming could be interperated as a dirge.
― chap, Thursday, 29 June 2017 08:50 (six years ago) link
Good old Radiohead, starting their set with a dirge.
― weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 June 2017 08:53 (six years ago) link
It took me a number of listens to get into and I'm a fan. I can't imagine anyone in the crowd at Glasto inclined to think of the band as miserabalist had their prejudices overturned when Thom busted out that one.
― chap, Thursday, 29 June 2017 09:09 (six years ago) link
sad krautrock reacts only
― mh, Thursday, 29 June 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
Well, there ya go.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 30 June 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link
I like dirges. To me, that signifies a clear idea executed clearly. I don't understand how it became to have negative connotations as a descriptor.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Austin, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
I imagine ILM is far more pro-dirge than the average UK festival goer, which probably skews the results somewhat.
― chap, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
I know it's a joke tweet but his dj sets are not unfortunately prison experiment loops. He plays hip hop, IDM, house and dubstep mostly.
e.g.:
1. Get Off (Rob3 remix) by Blaqstarr & Diplo2. Madame Hollywood by Felix da Housecat3. Raid by Madvillain and Medaphor (and Madlib)4. Quiet Dog by Mos Def5. Pon da Floor by Major Lazer6. On a Ragga Tip SL27. Fog Bank by Boy 8-bit8. Feral (lone remix) by errr us and lone9. Seamonkey(untold rmx) by Moderat10. Kill bill Vol 4 by modeselektor11. Undoing the laces by Nathan Fake12. Mad again by Boy 8bit13. Organ donor by Dj SHAdow14. Original Nutter by Uk Apache with Shy Fx15. I can’t stop this feeling(pangea rmx ) by Untold16. why by Pangea17. Night of the living baseheads by public enemy
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
Anyhow
https://38.media.tumblr.com/53c4f6afc9002e097632f74491036dda/tumblr_mkci0qhTs11qfx4who1_r1_400.gif]
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
yeah, that is what makes the tweet funny for me!
imo it's a pretty good indictment of my own tastes. I bought all the remix 12"s of that thom yorke side project because it was like a list of all the nerdo artists I listen to
;_;
― mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
it always reminds me that thom yorke apparently went to college with one of the basement jaxx dudes
― mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
tl; dr, festival crowds suck
http://thequietus.com/articles/22761-radiohead-glastonbury-2017-review
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link
"I don't know how you could say that if you're a fan?!" is a pretty lame thing to say, really. Being a fan of something doesn't mean blind worship.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
Being a fan of something doesn't mean blind worship.
This is true. However, the inverse is also true: I think that if someone is a really hardcore true fan, they will never outright disown something that the band does. If anybody does either of these things and proclaims themselves to be a big fan of the band, I will pretty much disregard future utterances from them.
I've always thought a really true hardcore fan will be the most critical, while still giving props where they are due.
Which is basically what Mr. Clarke did in the linked Quietus piece.
― Austin, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
Yup, this.
Otherwise "true fan"/"hardcore fan" generally means "batshit insane obsessive" to me.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
do you know what fan is short for
― blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
Yes, fucking annoying nobhead - and you're the biggest fan of 'em all.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link
But yes, even though the word "fan" derives from "fanatic", people are perfectly capable of being into things without being ludicrously over the top about it.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
A fan is someone who says their favourite band is cool.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
pretty much every hardcore Radiohead fan I've met doesn't like speaking about Pablo Honey.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
Yes, only in Radiohead fandom can a good record be deemed to be a shit one because it didn't get the critical blowjobs the rest of their albums did.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
Nah, it's just shit.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
So is The Bends.
just and planet telex are the only good songs on the bends
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
have always thought that planet telex sounds like an ok computer track more than a bends track
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, July 4, 2017 7:04 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Stale challops. I'm by no means a "fan", but The Bends, High and Dry, Fake Plastic Trees, My Iron Lung, Street Spirit are all great songs, too. Try harder.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
Yeah, stale challops indeed. It was a great record in 1995 and remains a great record.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
oh ya my iron lung is good too
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link
'High and Dry' sounded wonderful at the time and still does - beautiful melody, gorgeous vocal. People enjoy having a go at this song for inspiring a few crap post-Britpop bands, but hey, The Beatles inspired a lot of shit music too, and I don't see anyone knocking them for that reason.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
i do, i will never forgive the beatles for inspiring herman's hermits
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
I see young kids wearing Beatles shirts all the time
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
the beatles are a v popular 60s brand
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
'Bones', '(Nice Dream)' and 'Black Star' are three big favourites of mine, too.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
Radiohead is a v popular 90s brand, altho not as big as bill clinton or AOL
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
This was amazing, looking back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sseeWU25RvA
― piscesx, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 12:27 (five years ago) link
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Shit, I just love the idea of Thom Yorke dropping On a Ragga Tip.
― chap, Thursday, 28 March 2019 16:16 (five years ago) link