the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

No it's not.

For me though they've put out at least three fantastic 12s from Mala, Quest and Silkie. I realise that's probably overstating things... but these tracks have a great and rather unique sound i reckon.

yeah by 'two tracks' i meant the quest and silkie, not shake out your demons. i agree with you, those three are good -- it's the rest i have issues with.

oh my god . . . Peverelist

Between Infinity is Now and his Appleblim collaboration. This is where I go when I feel like listening to something really interesting.

The other producer I'm really liking is 2562, who seems to tie together just about every good idea the scene has at the moment: T++ style dub-techno atmospherics and 4/4 pulse, broken beat meets 2-step swing, Mala polyrhythms... I reckon Jess would really like these tracks. His remix of Pattie Blingh's "Brother: The Point" in particular is like the beyond of Zed Bias's remix of "Hook & A Line" or DJ Abstract's "Touch" that no other producer ever bothered to explore.

I haven't heard it but I'm keen to check out his 12 inch for Philpot under the moniker "A Made Up Sound" - the other stuff under that name I've heard is either broken techno or verging-on-instrumental-grime, so I'm wondering what he'd do for what is essentially a deep house label.

Tim: deep house.

and it's very good, but drastic change in the output under that moniker following it.

Received this e-mail from !K7:

Coup!

!K7 are buzzing on the announcement that the next installment in the DJ-Kicks series comes from the hugely acclaimed, underground dubstep producer BURIAL at the end of June. The South London producer is notoriously shy of press and public performances yet his last two albums on Kode 9's Hyperdub label have established him as one of the global leaders in this exploding scene on word-of-mouth alone.

The latest DJ Kicks from Four Tet, Henrik Schwarz, Booka Shade and Hot Chip have all pushed new limits in eclecticism, making linear genre-specific DJ mixes a thing of past... so who knows where Burial will take it next. We hear whisperings from the studio that he may treat his dearest dubstep, techno and even r'n'b tracks with his unique production style before mixing them with exclusive material and... well watch this space.

I'm intrigued.

Resolved, yeah I've heard the release since then - one of the tracks is Theo Parrish shuffle!

Didn't realize Burial was even a DJ. . . I could see this being very one note somehow.

He isn't a dj.

Maybe he'll get Plaid to do little interludes for him (hah!)

New ~scape compilation 'Round Black Ghosts' looks pretty great.

Tracklisting:

01 Martyn - Velvet
02 2562 - Channel Two
03 Untold - Test Signal
04 Pole - Alles Klar
05 Syncom Data - Beyond the Stars (SD Mix)
06 Ramadanman - Response
07 Pinch - 136 Trek
08 Peverelist - The Gris
09 Elemental - Raw Material
10 Pangaea - Coiled

BTW this was the Burial DJ Kicks I made last year (for a friend who liked the first Burial album and wanted 'context'):

1. Nu-Birth - Anytime (Dem 2's Nice & Sleazy Mix)
2. Horsepower Productions - Fist of Fury
3. Skream - Midnite Request Line
4. Wiley - Pick Yourself Up (Target Instrumental Mix)
5. Aaliyah - We Need A Resolution
6. Tricky ft. PJ Harvey - Broken Homes
7. Donnacha Costello - Dry Retch
8. Pole - Tanzen
9. Rhythm & Sound - Truly (Vladislav Delay Remix)
10. Dillinja - The Angels Fell
11. Hidden Agenda - Dispatch #2
12. DJ Shadow - You Can't Go Home Again
13. Johnny Dark - HCD 2

01 Martyn - Velvet
02 2562 - Channel Two
03 Untold - Test Signal
04 Pole - Alles Klar
05 Syncom Data - Beyond the Stars (SD Mix)
06 Ramadanman - Response
07 Pinch - 136 Trek
08 Peverelist - The Gris
09 Elemental - Raw Material
10 Pangaea - Coiled

VS

1 Skream Untitled (3:09)
2 Digital Mystikz Ancient Memories (3:23)
3 Loefah & Skream 28 Grams (3:53)
4 Loefah Midnight (3:08)
5 Skream Midnight Request Line (3:41)
6 D1 Crack Bong (Loefah Remix) (2:41)
7 Skream I (2:55)
8 Loefah Goat Stare (3:01)
9 Skream Monsoon (Loefah Remix) (3:15)
10 D1 Higher State (3:42)
11 Loefah Root (4:42)
12 D1 I Believe (3:51)
13 Digital Mystikz Neverland (5:42)

It just seems to me that those two tracklistings immediately sum up what's different about dubstep now versus 2-3 years ago...

Are you trying to criticise the shift or what Jacob? Or just note that expansion in artist base?

Because, yeah, "Midnite Request Line" and "Higher State" and "I Believe" and (especially) "Neverland" are great but that is it on Dubstep Allstars 2. The rest is deathly boring.

But you could totally make a boring contemporary dubstep tracklist - just lots of Caspa, Benga, bad Cotti etc.

Whereas Martyn and Untold and 2562 and Peverelist are actually very good!

I was meaning more insular local-based scene with a few tightly-knit producers and more of an urban edge versus globalised and slightly IDM-ish.

No qualitative judgement on that but it's marked. Kind of like jungle around 97-8 or so.

Okay yeah, point taken.

Funnily enough, from my perspective it's kind of like the ends against the middle - Caspa etc. are on the other side of Digital Mystikz, Skream etc. from the Bristol dub-techno axis. I guess they're like the modern drum & bass equivalent - not IDM at all.

If I was sentimental about older dubstep I'd be worried about this shift to a bipolar genre, but pretty much everything I ever liked about dubstep (it's delicate, feminine, uptempo moments) are almost all on the one side. Maybe if 05/06 had been the story of Mala more than the story of Loefah/Coki, I'd feel differently.

Sully's "Give Me Up" and "Flashback" are pretty awesome pieces of Toastboy-style junglist breakstep.

tracklisting leaked for burial!!!

"stir it up" - bob marley
"i can see clearly now" - johnny nash
"don't turn around" - ace of base
"six underground" - sneaker pimps
"love theme from 'last temptation of christ'" - peter gabriel
"mutant jazz" - t power
"we tryin to stay alive" - wyclef
"here i come baby" - ub40
"emergency on planet earth" - jamiroquai
"alphabet aerobics" - blackalicious
"high hopes" - tali
"digital" - goldie ft krs-one
"tomorrow people" - ziggy marley
"i can see clearly now" - johnny nash

That looks remarkably... awful. But could be unexpectedly brilliant. Nice to see "mutant jazz" coming out of the woodwork though.

Um that is totally made up, J@cob.

dubstep allstars 2 is still my favorite dubstep comp

also alex in sf is a dirty liar

Allstars 2 is the last time I felt I could really connect with the genre. It's a bitch move to diss something because of it's fans, but fuck it, I find the whole thing way too student-y these days...

Dubstep Allstars really need to get Oneman on the case. The way he mixes current dubstep with old 2-step is sublime.

My favourite dubstep qua dubstep mix is the Scuba mix from last year linked to upthread (I think it's on the hotflush website).

For a handy encapsulation of the new techno-dub/2-step revival trends check out this great mix here:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=54397327&blogID=368375169

Tracklisting:

D.R.E.A.M.
dub rules everything around me
volume 1

tracklisting:

1. likhan - uwill
2. pinch - 136 trek
3. likhan - terre
4. pangaea - nest
5. untold - test signal
6. appleblim & peverelist - circling
7. scuba - outmost
8. peverelist - the grind
9. scuba - inmost
10. scuba - beta
11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix)
12. 2562 - circulate
13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison
14. a made up sound - sleepwalk
15. 2562 - kameleon
16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix)
17. 2562 - channel two
18. ramadanman - carla
19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz
20. headhunter - locus lotus

nice piece by kiran sande over at Fact on dutch duo martyn and 2562 here. i've seen they've already been mentioned a couple of times up thread.

i have to say, martyn is really doing it for me these days. i have a great track of his on a mixtape (broken?? - poss unreleased) that has this lovely dreamy quality (despite the jiy-normus bassline).

I've probably avoided posting here since I can really only learn from this thread and not contribute, but what's the deal with Darkstar? I ended up downloading a couple songs from a Hyperdub release on emusic and it seems quite a bit different from a lot of other things I've heard.

RE: Appleblim Rinse FM Podcast

Is it possible to get it in more than 128kbps? A cursory skim shows t's probably best not wasted on a low bitrate listen.

the 128kbs factor has kind of put me off listening to the rinse podcasts (probably to my detriment). i don't think they come at a higher bitrate unfortunately.

what i've heard of the D.R.E.A.M. mix sounds excellent so far (at 320kbs!!). thanks for the linkage.

LOL@ the idea that pirate radio should come in high fidelity quality

perhaps this is something The Radio Authority could look into...

For one, this is a podcast for an established website, not pirate radio, no? Second, listening to just 10 minutes of this mix makes me feel like I'm in love. It's like the initial ambivalence I've felt toward what I've generally found to be too blocky and grimey for my tastes (e.g. Benga)* has been answered, and how. Like, mixes like this might be opening doors to new ways of approaching music for the next few years. If this was released as a CD I'd definitely buy it.

Rinse is a pirate radio station that happens to have a website.

Appleblim has mixed the latest Dubstep Allstars which you'll be able to buy on CD soon enough.

And which is incidentally really fucking good.

Tracklist?

Can someone explain to me the big deal about Flying Lotus btw? This is just Ninja Tune/Mo Wax redux, right?

I agree.

1 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #01] Gather
2 Peverelist & Applebim - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #02] Circling
3 Pinch - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #03] Get Up
4 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #04] Moog Dub
5 Martyn - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #05] Suburbia
6 Jus Wan - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #06] Action Potential
7 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #07] Morvern Dub
8 TTG & Selector Dub U - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #08] Harajuku
9 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #09] Infinity Is Now
10 Skream - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #10] Percression
11 RSD - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #11] Pretty Bright Light
12 Mungo's HI FI - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #12] Babylon
13 Komonazkuk - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #13] Bad Apple
14 Komonazkuk & Gatekeeper - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #14] Cheeky Herbert
15 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #15] Decisions
16 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #16] Put You Down (Ramadanman Refix)
17 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #17] Broken Hearts (Martyn's DCM Remix)
18 Geiom - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #18] Reminiscing (Dubplate Version)

Wow no Shackleton. Interesting looking.

flying lotus is j dilla redux

for some people (such as myself) mo wax redux would be a very big deal

I think that's quite an insult to Dilla frankly.

You may love Los Angeles then!

Seriously it sounds totally instrumental hip hop '96 to me with a few '00s production touches thrown in!

I mean Donuts was only the end all be all of Dilla to guys Pincock. Most of Dilla's stuff was more than just production fan boy drool bait.

oh? how about this then?

most mo'wax >>>>> dilla

cough, splutter, choke