This would have been a better album if they had stuck to the original idea of having a side-long piece of music. As I understand it the first three and last two tracks were originally intended to be seamless. Anyway, "Duchess".
― heaven parker (anagram), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
16 year old me wd vote for Heathaze and I feel as close to that guy as ever
the trees and I are shook
― pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
'Turn it on Again'
I went through a brief phase, I guess, of exploring all the Genesis stuff, but the more that the years go by the more I realise that I don't need very much from this band. Foxtrot is an absolutely essential prog LP for me, but I can take or leave the rest of Gabriel-era Genesis. For Collins-era Genesis, I'll take A Trick of the Tail and a singles compilation, but that's about it.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
imo no one ever talks about "cul-de-sac" so i'll prob vote for that, maybe my favorite ever genesis chorus
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link
but i'm also pulled toward the really excellent "back in nyc" rewrite "man of our times"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link
it's a little uneven in tone with the split-up the epic and all but i think it still works even though "misunderstanding" feels like it belongs to some other project
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
Heathaze all day long.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
I love the hi-hats on "Cul de Sac."
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
Gosh I love this album. Gonna be a tough one to vote
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
TURN IT ON AGAIN
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 June 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
Excellent album. It's Duchess for me, Heathaze is a close second.
― Valentijn, Monday, 26 June 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
Duchess, but only recently noticed that Man Of Our Times RULES
― PaulTMA, Monday, 26 June 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
Voted for the hit to piss off the proggy folks... :)
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 26 June 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
lol geir polled this way back when, not sure why it never came up in a search
"Duke"'s Poll (Genesis, not Ellington)
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 30 June 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link
can't argue with those results
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 30 June 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
Dutchess but also heathaze and most of this album, even Misunderstanding.
― akm, Friday, 30 June 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
I painted a 6-foot replica of this album cover in the hallway outside my dorm room back in 1987.
It's hard to beat the energy of "Behind The Lines" for an album lead-in, but i find the triad of Duchess/Guide Vocal/Man of the Times to be one of the Collins-era high points. "Turn It On Again" and "Misunderstanding" will garner many votes because of their crafty pop constructions, even if they lack much substance to chew on. So, i suppose, i'll cast a lonely vote for "Guide Vocal".
― bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 1 July 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
Agree with Alfred on "Behind the Lines."
But I actually - gasp - like "Misunderstanding" more than "Turn it on Again."
― space chipmunk (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 July 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link
Haven't listened to this in, ulp, 37 years. I'd forgotten how much the LP sounds like it was recorded on a 4-track. Really simple arrangements throughout, one part each, as if they just re-did the original jam sessions when it came to record. Never sounds too thin though. Outside the singles, love "Guide Vocal" and "Cul-De-Sac". But voted "Please Don't Ask" in the end; peak hello-you-must-be-going Phil IMO.
― Jeff W, Sunday, 2 July 2017 11:13 (six years ago) link
I went for "Misunderstanding".
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 July 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
"I'd forgotten how much the LP sounds like it was recorded on a 4-track" haha, this is true; it's also a testament to how strong the writing on most of the record is that it succeeds so well with a stripped down approach; compare it to And then there were three which is murky, cluttered, and filled with not very good material.
― akm, Sunday, 2 July 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
nah ATTWT is a way better album than Duke
― heaven parker (anagram), Sunday, 2 July 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
... looking further into The Archives 2, anyone interested might consider swapping out tracks as follows:
"Misunderstanding" for it's B-Side, Evidence Of Autumn."Turn It On Again" for the "Duchess" B-Side, Open Door.
The 2 replaced songs are fine songs, they just never really fit into the album for me (even if TIOA did once occupy the center transition of The Story of Albert). Sure it may make the middle of the album a little less catchy (and a lot more sappy), but, damn, this is the way i'll listen to Duke for the rest of my days.
― bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 3 July 2017 07:06 (six years ago) link
Y'know, I think I will listen again to every '80s Genesis/Phil Collins LP from Duke to ...But Seriously this week. Yes, including No Jacket Required - I guess one more go 'round with that won't hurt, even if it leaves me with the same opinion it's always done.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 3 July 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
Okay, so scratch what I said earlier about me only needing Foxtrot, A Trick of the Tail and a singles compilation. I've got Duke on now and I'm already beginning to wonder why I don't play this more often - I'd forgotten how much parts of 'Man of Our Times' remind me of Gary Numan. Genesis actually assimilated aspects of New Wave music into their sound quite well, which I guess makes sense when you think the members were still only between 29-30 years old when they made it. When I first started listening to Genesis' albums, it was of course when I was in the middle of a full-blown prog phase where I wanted everything to be 20 minutes long, be conceptual and have fast, technically precise musical parts, but I must confess - listening to this album now, it actually fits in more snugly with a lot of the stuff that I've been listening to over the last couple of years than I previously thought. As a result, I can easily see myself listening to '80s Genesis far more these days. I'm actually glad I decided to throw this on tonight. It'll be Phil's solo stuff that'll be the real test, though.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 3 July 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
*it=this record.
"nah ATTWT is a way better album than Duke"
NO
― akm, Monday, 3 July 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
yeah no fuckin way
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 3 July 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link
Some of Phil's solo stuff is legitimately slammin.
― bacon lettuce and tornado (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 July 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link
no jacket required has Take Me Home on it, there is nothing wrong with that song.
― akm, Monday, 3 July 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
Almost everything Phil plays on up to and including No Jacket is worthwhile, imo. Virtually nothing since, really, save a few Genesis songs and one or two guest spots, maybe. Regardless, he's the epitome of a guy who has done so much almost undeniably good stuff that still unjustifiably gets people shrugging and saying, "yeah, but so what, what else has he done?"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link
Hmm. Face Value on now. 'In The Air Tonight' is still as potent as ever, and 'The Roof is Leaking' into 'Droned' is a really nice moment. The version of 'Behind The Lines' on this isn't as good as the version on Duke, though, and the second half of the record is a bit of a slog. 'If Leaving Me Is Easy' in particular is bland, go-nowhere smoothness. 'Hand in Hand' has a promising intro, but then the horns come in and it turns into chat show theme tune music.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link
I like his version of 'Tomorrow Never Knows', though!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link
I Missed Again is a jam.
― honda for the goyim (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
I Missed Again is beautiful. I take If Leaving Me is Easy as his attempt to write a John Martyn track with keyboards.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 July 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
"In The Air Tonight" was supposed to be on Duke, but Banks voted it out, apparently. Still, that tune and a handful of other singles (most notably, "Easy Lover") is the only "solo" Collins i'll go back to.
― bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 3 July 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link
Almost everything Phil plays on up to and including No Jacket is worthwhile, imo. Virtually nothing since, really
agreed with the first point, disagreed with the second as i like most of invisible touch
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
Oh, my bad, I totally meant to include Invisible Touch. I forgot that came out right after No Jacket!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link
Hello, I Must Be Going is pretty slept on. "I Cannot Believe it's True" is a monster of a tune, best use of the EWF horns ever. Ditto for "It Don't Matter to Me". Funky Phil rules.
― cock chirea, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link
Well, I managed to get through those quite quickly (there's only 8 LP's, after all) ... I'll elaborate later, but basically I'd rank 'em like this:
Duke > Invisible Touch > Abacab > Genesis >>> all Phil Collins solo albums.
However, his solo work is not all terrible - there's one or two good (even great in the case of 'In the Air Tonight') tracks on each album - including No Jacket Required, which still mostly feels to me like it should come with a free briefcase and filofax. Also: horns - love 'em on Parliament and Prince records, sound incredibly tacky on Phil Collins records.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 09:03 (six years ago) link
A lot of '70s Genesis fans tend to see the '80s Genesis as the moment when Phil Collins started dragging the band in a more pop direction, but I disagree with this. If anything, '80s Genesis was Banks and Rutherford dragging Collins away from blandness.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link
Heathaze is great, as is the whole Duke's Travels/End - but it's got to be Duchess for me. Just that transition from trippy new age drum machine reverie (sounds like some tranquil Amazonian paradise, teeming with insect life) into crashing, colossal and psychedelic anthemisms will never not thrill me. I wish it went on for hours and hours.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link
"I Cannot Believe it's True" is a monster of a tune, best use of the EWF horns ever. Ditto for "It Don't Matter to Me". Funky Phil rules.
Also this. The drums on IDMTM - shuffling, shifting, tumbling over each other without ever not being in the pocket, are mind-blowing.
― Shanty Brunch (stevie), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:23 (six years ago) link
It's an unpopular opinion, but I too prefer ATTW3. They sound far more of a unit on Duke, but the previous album to me is as underrated as it comes. Let the album gets very little love, least of all from the band
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link
*yet
I'm happy to play the Geir role here. I like prog Genesis, not pop Genesis. Duke has plenty of fine moments, but it signalled the beginning of the end for me and I have no use for anything that came after. ATTWT is great because it merges pop concision with a prog sensibility.
― heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link
pvmic
― more polls about food and reactionary art (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link
The drumming throughout Duke is pretty spectacular, particularly on the last couple of tracks.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link
There's a really cool drum effect in "I Don't Care Anymore" (one of my fave Phil vocal tracks). It starts out big and roomy - his Bonham sound - and then they gradually shift from the room mics to the close mics and the sound gets super tight, controlled and compressed. It's really neat.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link
I guess when it boils down to it - I rate Collins highly as a drummer, and as a singer I think he's got a great voice. As a songwriter though, I find him frustratingly inconsistent and I suspect a lot of the material I've enjoyed on Genesis records has come from either Banks or Rutherford.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link
It's not well regarded now but Momentary Lapse of Reason by Pink Floyd was really huge (4X platinum in the U.S.)was huge for kids, "Learning to Fly" and that music video were huge and definitely got a newer generation of fans.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 March 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
Pink Floyd in 1987 was my first concert, and that album has a lot of progressive trappings like instrumentals and extended running times, but I said elsewhere that "Sorrow" is "Heartbeat" by Don Johnson dragged out for eight minutes.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 March 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
Lately when I've listened to Duke it reminds me a lot of Gloss Drop-era Battles
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 1 March 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link
The only time I ever saw Floyd was on this tour.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 1 March 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
I luv them
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link
Been listening to this today, great to hear them in a small-ish room with a very happy, singalong crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmXwxXZtIN8
― Maresn3st, Friday, 12 March 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link
still wonder what this album's reputation would've been had they kept the Duke suite intact. might've been seen as a modern way of doing a prog epic. album would've made more sense too though "Misunderstanding" just don't fit regardless, it feels like a bonus track from a different session. oh well killer album and as mentioned upthread they really were the only ones keeping the prog flame alive in 1980. and Turn it On Again is legitimately one of the coolest pop songs ever. you can't play it!! ever see a band attempt to work it out? even when you figure it out your brain just can't play that way without a ton of practice (I assume? tried both the drums and the bass keyboard part and needed total focus to even get it right once) Tony Banks, baby
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 01:02 (six months ago) link
A friend of mine, who is in his late-'50s, was telling me about perusing the record bins as a kid and coming across all these albums by Genesis, which all seemed so mysterious and magical to him, with their inscrutable album covers and whatnot. And then one day he's listening to the radio and hears "Misunderstanding," and the DJ comes on to say it's Genesis, and it reverse blew his mind. This is Genesis?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:23 (six months ago) link
yea it's my least favorite part of the record and def should've been punted for Face Value. speaking of wasn't In The Air Tonight originally meant to be on this album? god, imagine that.
something I've noticed is how damn long every single one of Genesis's LPs were from Foxtrot -> Duke. even the doubles like The Lamb and Seconds Out. every LP is over 50 minutes long. this one is 55! you gotta crank up the bass hard!
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:28 (six months ago) link
I can't deny that Misunderstanding doesn't fit on this record, but I also can't deny that I love Misunderstanding, the first Genesis song I knew -- and it does fit, for me, into the band's work as a whole.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:37 (six months ago) link
Phil pitched "In the Air Tonight" to the band (just like Mike Campbell pitched "Boys of Summer" to Tom Petty) and the band passed.
Phil is (rightly) defensive about his reputation for softening Genesis. For example, Mike Rutherford wrote the bulk of "Follow You, Follow Me," their first hit, and later the bulk of stuff like "Taking It All Too Hard" and "Throwing It All Away," two songs that people probably think Collins had a big hand in writing. (Fwiw, he also wrote the lyrics for "Illegal Alien.")
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:43 (six months ago) link
I like "Misunderstanding" too, even if though I don't count it among their best stuff - beyond Duke, Abacab was the last time I kind of enjoyed their pop songs before they really went bland.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:29 (six months ago) link
I've never thought Misunderstanding doesn't fit and tbh I'm not sure what you're getting at. It feels distinctly of that period of Genesis in pretty much every regard and (this will sound clunky but) it's a textural and compositional fit for Duke imo (that said, it also reminds me of McCartney a bit - not in sound so much but just as a song).
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:45 (six months ago) link
Was listening to And Then There Were Three the other day and thought how unforgivably insipid Follow is. And I *love* their pop ballads, generally - Throwing It All Away is a genuine highlight of Invisible Touch for me - but there's something so grey and dull about it. It's no Afterglow, for sure.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2023 08:12 (six months ago) link
IME 'Turn It On Again' is not so difficult to play, frogbs. My mates and I did a little remote version during lockdown and it was a lot of fun working it out.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 7 September 2023 10:14 (six months ago) link
Once you get into the odd signature groove, it's pretty straightforward, though I can imagine just one person deviating a bit too much throwing it off.
I don't mind "Misunderstanding" at all, and I like "Follow You," too, mawkish though it may be. Typically passive aggressive-y quote from Banks on wiki:
It was our only truly group-written number. Mike played the riff, then I started playing a chord sequence and melody line on it, which Phil then centralized around. It worked so well as a very simple thing; it was enough as it stood. I'd just written a simple love lyric for "Many Too Many", and I think Mike was keen to try the same thing. Maybe "Follow You Follow Me" was almost too banal, but I got used to it. I think we find it much easier to write long stories than simple love songs.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:34 (six months ago) link
yea once you figure it out it doesn't deviate much but its just such an odd meter, idk my brain just isn't used to playing something like that
anyway I do like Follow You Follow Me, I'm a sucker for overtly pretty pop songs like that, but I'd make the same argument, it doesn't really fit into the album at all for me. even stuck on the end like that it just feels like a bonus track
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:09 (six months ago) link
I just love every Genesis single until Illegal Alien.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:11 (six months ago) link
(And I don't even mind that one much. It's obvious what's awful about it but the instrumental is GREAT.)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:12 (six months ago) link
yea for a while I had all the CDs from Nursery Cryme to Trick of the Tail and then a separate best of which was all later tracks (plus a new version of Carpet Crawlers), was kind of surprised how much I liked it
in fact I remember playing it once as the summer help for a utility company, my boss came in and went "ah yes Genesis, they were good but I actually only like the stuff they did before this, they had a different singer actually, you probably don't even know..." and I wanted to say how much I was really into those records but had to go on my route in 5 minutes so just didn't have time to get into a prog discussion, lol
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:18 (six months ago) link
Throwing It All Away is Follow You Follow Me done better (and balder)
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:20 (six months ago) link
I think PaulTMA is right. Throwing It All Away is Peak Rutherford.
He went back to its sound again for Living Years, which is another good piece of music hampered by mawkish lyrics.
― Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:29 (six months ago) link
Controversial Genesis opinion: nearly all the 70s-era albums would be improved by lopping 15 minutes off the running time.
― I spent too long trying to write sensible SF (Matt #2), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:33 (six months ago) link
― PaulTMA,
otm -- one of Rutherford's better lyrics. Blame him for the sheer terror of "Land of Confusion."
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:38 (six months ago) link
xp well I definitely don't agree with that but I do find the amount of long atmospheric passages a bit curious, particularly say the end of "Moonlit Knight" which just tweedles on for several minutes. wonder who decided that was essential
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:40 (six months ago) link
Having a 1978-81 Genesis afternoon in the late summer sun.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:41 (six months ago) link
I've always said that "Throwing It All Away" is one of Phil's deceptively simple peak drum performances, a total Bonham groove, which is unexpected for a ballad.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:50 (six months ago) link
It's my favorite Patrick Bateman-era ballad.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:57 (six months ago) link
In Too Deep's lovely as well, if I'm honest.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:58 (six months ago) link
Also, Abacab onwards, Genesis albums (until the awful We Can't Dance) are a lean 47 minutes or so
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Thursday, 7 September 2023 13:59 (six months ago) link
We Can't Dance, Be Here Now, Disintegration, Daydream Nation - the four tenants of the 12 track, 71 minute album.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:06 (six months ago) link
The latter-half sections of both Knight and Volcano are both Steve-driven and seemingly dropped from later live performances
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:18 (six months ago) link
well that's just 3 - Abacab, Genesis, and Invisible Touch. and I think all those are still longer than any album by say King Crimson, at least until the CD era
the outlier in their catalogue is Nusery Cryme...not even 40 minutes!! wow!
― frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 14:20 (six months ago) link
Eh, We Can't Dance is not all bad. "Driving the Last Spike," "Dreaming While You Sleep," "Fading Lights," those three long ones are pretty good, and together they run almost 30 minutes, lol. For the short ones, I don't really like the singles much, tbh, and a lot of the tracks do veer closer to Phil Collins solo dreck than most Genesis material does, but I do like "Tell Me Why" and "Living Forever," which kind of sounds like it could be slotted between self-titled and "Invisible Touch."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHx9MqCfCjw
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 15:02 (six months ago) link
No argument here. They all have at least that much that is a bit dull or underwhelming, especially Lamb which otherwise is my favorite album but really would've been better as a single LP (albeit one on the long side).
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 September 2023 02:27 (six months ago) link
It's funny how they celebrated the dawn of the CD era by making shorter albums
― PaulTMA, Friday, 8 September 2023 09:28 (six months ago) link
(Until WCD obviously)
Think a lot of my emnity towards WCD comes from the fact that I'd been a Genesis obsessive in my pre-teens, but WCD had the misfortune to arrive at the same time as Nirvana's Nevermind and my finally getting into music for kids of my age, and I felt I had to reject it. But also, I remember buying the CD out of curdled loyalty when it came out, and besides the chorus to No Son Of Mine, which I loved, it all felt like middle-aged-man ballads and old people shit. And then there was I Can't Dance, which was and is execrable. Perhaps I should revisit it.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2023 09:37 (six months ago) link
That live thing, 'The Way We Walk: The Longs' has Fading Lights and Driving... and is a good context in which to listen to the record, but not.
― MaresNest, Friday, 8 September 2023 09:39 (six months ago) link
I saw em at Knebworth on that tour, a mate got free tickets through his sister. And it was so removed from this band that I'd had such an intense, solitary relationship with when I was 11 or so, I remember feeling really weirdly about the whole thing (also we saw Steve Punt reviewing in the VIP section for a broadsheet w/his notepad out). But I'd be up for checking it out now.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2023 09:48 (six months ago) link
I bloody love Domino so I'm definitely open to it being good.
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2023 09:49 (six months ago) link
Halfway thru the "old medley" and loving it of course
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2023 10:06 (six months ago) link
Argh and then Phil drops some lines from Illegal Alien in I Know What I Like, like a turd slipping into the gravy
― honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Friday, 8 September 2023 10:07 (six months ago) link
eeets noh fahn
― MaresNest, Friday, 8 September 2023 10:30 (six months ago) link