The Fall is a great group to discover, to get soaked in their long albums with their different moods and instrumental choices, always revolving around the same structures.But to listen to individual songs and "singles", casually ? Horrible. So it's one of these bands I've listened a lot of albums from, but only a couple times.As opposed to many other 80s bands like The Cure that are interesting every day.
― Nabozo, Saturday, 24 June 2017 08:27 (six years ago) link
... except for "Big New Prinz" which is unquestionably their best song and amazing in isolation.
― yesca, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link
you're both very wrong, but hey thanks for dropping into the thread
― sleeve, Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link
^this
― imago, Saturday, 24 June 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
Picking on individual songs and then burrowing into the albums was the best way to get into The Fall ime.
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 24 June 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
So many great tunes in isolation!
that's too bad elena is gone, i feel like she has beenin this band the longest beyond MES and I liked how she smoked cigarettes.
― akm, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
Finally got round to reading Renegade, Mark E Smith's autobiography. It's pretty disappointing. It reads like it was transcribed in the pub from him rambling away and could've used a serious edit. Or even better, someone to guide him into different topics. Barely mentions anything of interest and certainly few insights. "Nobody understood but I was right" is his take on practically everything. There was a page about John Peel that sounds sincere but otherwise this amount of sustained MES-isms leaves him looking like insecure old fart.
Steve Hanley's book is the best book about the Fall and tells you a lot more about MES than this book does.
― everything, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
The mick middles book is good
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
everything otm, very disappointing book.
― albvivertine, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 21:33 (six years ago) link
I've heard that Mr Smith is not well at all, and the multiple NYC performances next month are doubtful.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
Word is that U.S. dates have all been canceled, but the NYC dates are going to be rescheduled.
― JRN, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
That's per the organizers of the festival in Kentucky that The Fall were scheduled to play next month.
― JRN, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
All US dates postponed until 2018 per the manager's Instagram account due to MES health concerns
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
And while certainly a bummer this is about the least surprising announcement ever.
New album is great.
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
Anybody read the Steve Hanley book - it sounds like it might just about be the best account out there of prime time Fall.
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 26 August 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I enjoyed it a ton, definitely worth checking out.
― cwkiii, Saturday, 26 August 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link
this is the post on instagram mentioned above btw: https://www.instagram.com/p/BYOQaRvDUT5/
― StanM, Saturday, 26 August 2017 08:35 (six years ago) link
Hanley's book is a definite must-read if you're seriously into the Fall - you do get the typical time-skip in the late-80s-90s era where tends to condense stuff, but if prime era to you is dual Hanley/Karl stuff you're in for a good time. The amount of bullshit he puts up with from MES over the years/pages is mind-boggling too.
― whitehallunity, Saturday, 26 August 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link
BANANA!
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 27 August 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
christ, the pictures of a wheelchair bound MES on twitter rn
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
what this? https://twitter.com/wheelchairjunki
― del griffith, Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
yeah that's not him
apparently it's a broken hip and he has his arm in a sling too, but upcoming live dates still going ahead afaict. get well soon mes
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
Och, so he's still gigging? It can't be that bad then.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
is it this picture from 09?http://thequietus.com/articles/01427-the-fall-s-nex-album-will-be-on-domino
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link
no i was looking at these
Was at the Banshees gig when Siouxsie played with a broken leg, and last might Mark E Smith fronted it out during illness (pics Andy Yates) pic.twitter.com/muzgJcLZbs— Room To Live (@DarrellTaylor66) October 21, 2017
Sorry to see Mark like this. Glad he's soldiering on. Apparently he was on good form in Wakefield. Get well soon #MarkESmith ! #TheFall pic.twitter.com/jk6ErcWHWV— Matt Melia (@DocMelia) October 21, 2017
but i see now he's got his legs crossed in those so i'm not even sure it's a fracture
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
another one
― new noise, Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link
nice to see that someone has added the lyrics from an unreleased fall song at the bottom of the comments on the quietus story though xp
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link
MES is indestructible.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
Pam in response to fans apparently giving her shit for singing some (all?) of "Bury" at the end of the gig
https://www.instagram.com/p/BagnvY3jkG8/?taken-by=pamela_vander
― sleeve, Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link
MES was always the epitome of healthy living. So surprising.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 21 October 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
Fuck off
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 22 October 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link
i wish i hadn't seen that footage.. :o. (On the last record, something his voice, made me think he's ill.) Let's hope he can keep going and crank out another 5 Fall albums before the inevitable curtain Falls.
― Ludo, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
nice to see a supportive Julia Nagle in the comments under that Instagram post
― imago, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
it's kind of weird how MES' exes tend to stay in the loop and continue to say nice things about him. maybe not that weird
― imago, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link
I was wondering if that was she
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link
Newcastle the other night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXECrDgDZEA
― heaven parker (anagram), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 06:56 (six years ago) link
He doesn't look great in that vid, but my god he sounds better than he has in yrs, and seems like from views from the heads on the Fall board that it was a great, heroic gig. He definitely seems like he wants out of that chair, which hopefully is a good sign.
2017 came for MES and he said go back, go back to your disease-control room
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
"seems like he wants out of that chair" counterpoint: he can't fuck with the amps in the chair
hahaha totally, it's the burning desire to fuck with his bandmates that will heal him
― sleeve, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
SepticSceptic16 hours agoThe man whose head expanded.
The man whose head expanded.
guilty lol here
― frogbs, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link
Haha nooo
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
LOL that's plain wrong
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
btw, I saw Dave Swarbrick playing sitting in a wheelchair with a tube coming down his nose and an oxygen tank sitting beside him and he lived, and kept performing, for like 20 years after.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
i mean, it's osteoporosis, right? what happens with osteoporosis if you don't treat it?
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 October 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
Has anyone mentioned the new cherry red compilations yet?
7cd set of all the singles, a sides and b sides. 3cd compilation of all the a sides.
― koogs, Sunday, 26 November 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link
It's been mentioned on one of the other million Fall threads.
It's also going on my Xmas list for sure.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 26 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
Oh! The Fall SINGLES box set! OH! you guys.
― Mark G, Sunday, 26 November 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link
Oh, that's a NEW fall thread, not one of the thousands I have already bookmarked...
As you were...
― koogs, Sunday, 26 November 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
But props for the naming consistency.